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    Mule Deer and CWD

    The Arsenal is on the east edge of Denver if anyone with an open mind wants to look at the results of allowing nature take it's course and allow mature bucks like this one with the very best fitness, health, and genetics in the herd live in sites where CWD has been in existence for 30 to 40...
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  3. J

    Mule Deer and CWD

    Tristate, go take a drive around the Arsenal where CWD has been around for over 30 years and notice how many older age class Monster Muley bucks are in an isolated, confined high fenced property with CWD prions in the soil and doing just fine! My guess is those old aged Monster Muley bucks have...
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    Mule Deer and CWD

    The fact is, CWD has been in Northern Colorado since the late 1960’s. The deer are doing just fine! So 100 years from today when there still is no massive die-off of deer from CWD and prions are still in soils are you still going to recommend culling, late rut hunts, and decreasing deer...
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    Mule Deer and CWD

    The fact is, CWD has been around since the late 1960's and there has never been a major die-off. If CWD is so bad how could prions exist and build in soils for up to 60 years without a major die-off? Lots of published data available about CWD and resistant alleles! The sky is not falling...
  6. J

    Mule Deer and CWD

    A bigger threat to mule deer is cutting their numbers so low that the best genetics in the herd are reduced and even eliminated! Take a look at the on-going Utah controversy! It's pretty much a wake-up call that culling, reducing herds and older age class bucks does absolutely nothing!
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    Very good podcast.

    I thought I would attach a couple fairly recent Utah cheatgrass projects that sound promising. Maybe some of you are aware of these projects? Obviously, long-term monitoring is important but hopefully preliminary results from these projects become available soon...
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    Very good podcast.

    The thought that deer numbers haven’t improved from years of work and millions of dollars spent raises a lot of concern and questions.
  9. J

    Very good podcast.

    Thanks for the link to the WRI website. There definitely has been a lot of habitat projects completed throughout Utah. It is really exciting that so many projects have been completed. There has been millions spent funding these projects, but I couldn't find any links to any of the results...
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    Very good podcast.

    Hawkeye, you never answered my question. What projects did the millions of dollars go towards? It would be great to know specific results from these projects so managers know which projects worked and which ones failed. Can you please attach a few of the project summaries in your next...
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    Very good podcast.

    I would be curious what habitat improvement projects have had millions of dollars spent on them with no benefit to mule deer? Is habitat, browse, water, cover, etc really in excellent condition or is one of these a limiting factor? Also, if habitat is awesome and there are no deer there must...
  12. J

    Very good podcast.

    Here is a recent. excellent podcast that mostly focuses on Wyoming but likely holds true in Utah as well. The Utah podcast is definitely revealing about the importance of predator control but seemed to down-play the importance of habit improvement and other projects that negatively impact...
  13. J

    Very good podcast.

    I would have to agree that if all that is available is forked horn bucks going into hunting seasons it's a sign that something is out of sink. When Colo went from all OTC deer tags to all limited it shifted things from nearly only forked horn bucks to B&C class bucks in around 5 to 7 years'...
  14. J

    No more governors tags for AZ

    There are numerous grant funding sources available for wildlife habitat improvement projects that put more critters on the mountain and prairies! Good for Arizona for standing up to the mess that has plagued the Western US in recent years!
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    Mule Deer and CWD

    I found another interesting publication from Europe. CWD was first detected in Norway reindeer in Norway in March 2016. The government decided to take a proactive approach and culled the entire herd of 2,400 animals. Only 4 cases of reindeer and 2 moose were detected before culling the...
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    Mule Deer and CWD

    Thanks for the heads up! Try this one. https://bioone.org/journals/journal-of-wildlife-diseases/volume-54/issue-3/2018-01-015/EVALUATION-OF-A-TEST-AND-CULL-STRATEGY-FOR-REDUCING-PREVALENCE/10.7589/2018-01-015.full
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    Mule Deer and CWD

    I thought this was an interesting 5 year study that was conducted in the early 2000's. Even with testing approximately 50% of the entire deer population and culling every CWD positive tested individual for 5 consecutive years there was only minimal decrease in CWD positive males and static...
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    Which Red Dot for Utah???

    I think the red dot "or" 1x scope is what could be confusing. It should read only 1x scopes are allowed rather than having an or in the wording.
  19. J

    Mule deer potential

    Age, genes, and nutrition are all definitely important. It seems like kids these days grow up lot taller than their parents. I would likely attribute that to diet. It's a pretty well known fact that healthy does produce strong healthy, resilient fawns. With that said, I would say that bucks...
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    Mule Deer and CWD

    There currently is dire concern about mule deer declines across the Western US and additional concern in regard to spread and prevalence of CWD. Some of you may not be aware of the long history of CWD in Colorado. CWD was originally detected in mule deer in an experiment station near Fort...
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  22. J

    Mule deer potential

    Colorado is a PRIME example of what happens if bucks are given the opportunity to age! Take a look at how many B&C listings were from Colorado prior to converting from OTC tags to all limited draw tags. Colorado was known as the mecca for monster muley bucks, re-writing the B&C books with 180+...
  23. J

    MOST UNUSUAL CATCH ON A FISHING ROD???

    Seagull, turtles, mergansers, grebes are a few that come to mind. Had sea lions and dolphin on for a while in Alaska but they break off pretty fast.
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    Colorado CPW Commissioner Debate!

    Thanks CWO for all of your hard work in the past and present! I agree 100% with your comments in regard to CWD. I hope you don't give up and continue to make a difference in Colorado. Our mule deer certainly need all the help they can get! I sent you a pm.
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    Newburgs podcast

    Maybe low success for OTC elk but if my memory is correct, Colo was re-writing the B&C book for mule deer just a few years ago.
  26. J

    Newburgs podcast

    So what do you nonres think about nonres opportunity in Colo? Do you think it’s better or worse than Wyo’s current nonres opportunity and allotments? How about the price of nonres tags in Wyo vs Colo?
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    Newburgs podcast

    You didn’t factor in that high demand nonres tags remained the exact same with no drop in nonres tags. It comes down to Colo being the most nonres friendly state in the Western US. Even with minor decreases in 2024, nonres get 25% or 20% of limited deer, elk, and antelope tags. Add on to that...
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    Newburgs podcast

    Nonresident license allocation modified: Big-game license allocation for bear, deer, elk and pronghorn has been modified from 65% for residents and 35% for nonresidents to 75% for residents and 25% for nonresidents for most hunt codes. High-demand hunt codes remain at 80% for residents and 20%...
  29. J

    Extremist CPW Commission Appointments

    Thank you to everyone that contributed one way or other. I also saw postings with phone numbers to contact reps. If this happens in Colo it can easily spread to surrounding states!
  30. J

    Newburgs podcast

    I say go for it Wyoming! As Randy mentioned, states can go 100 - 0 across the board but there will likely be consequences to residents. Residents tag prices will increase dramatically. There also may be fewer big game critters running across the landscape if there isn't financial support for...
  31. J

    Best Western Big Game State To Retire In???

    Good points 2lumpy! I think if I was just starting out as a young hunter and fisherman there are a few spots in Canada that would be on my list of places to spend a great life in the outdoors. The West as we knew it as kids growing up seems to be slowly but surely disappearing. There are...
  32. J

    Newburgs podcast

    I think they did a great job of describing the rights of residents. Also, the benefits nonres provide by financially supporting wildlife management and improvement projects that put more critters on the mountains and prairies.
  33. J

    Best Western Big Game State To Retire In???

    I was pretty intrigued by the mention of Alberta. My guess is that there is amazing spots to live from the west to the east coast of Canada. I know that Saskatchewan has more mule deer B&C listings than just about anywhere in the world. They also have world class whitetails. There is...
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    Best Western Big Game State To Retire In???

    I grew up in Wyo. The only thing I hated was the WIND! I've also spent a great deal of time in Alaska. The only problem with Alaska is there are only around 3 months of total heaven.....July, August, and September. The remaining 9 months are pretty much hell! Salmon fishing is totally...
  35. J

    Colorado CPW Commissioner Debate!

    San Juan, Thanks for the link! I hope every Colorado resident that reads this post submits comments in San Juans link above! It only takes a minute to complete!
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    Colorado CPW Commissioner Debate!

    Each Western state is a little different. One area I draw the line on is when anti-hunters start getting involved with wildlife biology, management, and decision making that affects hunting and our resources. I think all of us (both res and nonres) need to unite to fight this from happening...
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    Colorado CPW Commissioner Debate!

    I guess I look at it in a totally different way. Nonres pay a large chunk of the CPW budget and support managing and improvement projects that promote wildlife. https://rmef.org/elk-network/2-1-million-boosts-colorado-wildlife-research-hunting-heritage-projects/ Take a look at the grant...
  38. J

    Colorado CPW Commissioner Debate!

    Any of you nonres that are concerned about where the CPW is headed in regard to wildlife management are welcome to chime in and voice your concerns to the above senator list! This not only impacts res but also nonres!
  39. J

    Have to use 14 deer points this year

    You will likely be able to buy a general G tag every year as a resident. Unless you want to get a jump at learning G country, why not use all your pts hunting a limited unit you may never draw as a resident? It's really up to you but that's what I would do.
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    Colorado CPW Commissioner Debate!

    I usually don't get that involved in Colorado politics; however, it seems like more and more wildlife decisions made at the state level are not based on science, biology, and ecology that exists in the field. Many of these decisions also have no regard for hunters and fisherman. Here is a link...
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