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I am well aware of what's on the winter range. NOT MUCH...

Thumbs up for Unlimited Hunters and very limited Deer. Thats Great. Just so you know we are starting to lose what few fawns we have along the Star Valley Face. The easy winter is getting harder. In the last 20 years we have had a Net Gain Fawn crop, 4 years. Ya Mule Deer should recover...

Your right Bucks don't have fawns. Thats not what we are talking about. What happens when you kill more Bucks than are being born. You end up with a herd with very few good Bucks if any. It's like living with in your budget. Something our Government knows nothing about. Hunters need to be...

Thats a start, But in the most popular drainages, Hunters will out number Bucks 10 to 1. That should work out well. I recently made a little video on you tube, I'm sure jm 77 would enjoy. almost gone 5 years of a big buck. If you want to watch great, if not thats great to.

I am surprised there hasn't been more discussion on how few Deer there are on the winter range. Winters are always hard in Star Valley so I have fed them for years. Mostly to keep them off the road. It works very well. Last year there were several who stepped up and fed the Deer. Thats why...

You can't have 10,000 hunters and 250 bucks. Do that Math

There are 2 reasons for LQ 1- Quality Hunt- Less Hunters, more big Bucks. 2- Herd protection- More Hunters than Deer. Everyone should agree with that, right. We are way past number 1. How could you put opportunity over saving what use to be one of the most awesome Mule Deer Herds. (maybe...

Heartbreaking is the only way I can describe what has happened to the Deer in Western Wyoming. I have argued with many about what was coming. Now here we are. I can't believe the number of Hunters that are still out for blood. We will never recover from this. Some of you think we recovered from...

I don't get on here much anymore. Its bad for my blood pressure. Mule Deer are never going to make a come back ,for lots of reasons. People are moving to Star Valley in Droves most are Hunters from California & Washington. Try finding a house right now........ So ya Deer numbers continue to...

I'm a conservative, it only makes sense to me, that all Hunters should be. It seems crazy to me that I have to get on here and argue about saving Mule Deer. Shouldn't everyone want that. It is a known fact Mule Deer have been declining for over 30 years. I just spent 3 weeks on the Winter...

Some of you are missing the point. In 1970 this question would not have been asked, it was a non issue. IN 2020 things have changed a lot. If you want there to be Deer around you need to let them go sometimes. My family eats a deer in a week. So I know a Deer wont fill your freezer and most of...

There's not even close to enough Deer in G For the number of Hunters and hard pressure it gets.. Shame on the WY Game & Fish and the Hunters who are Hell Bent on killing a buck every year. I could but won't.. Changes should have been made clear back in 2000. If you want to see bad look...

This sounds like Utah to me. This is what you get when Hunters way outnumber the Game. There shouldn't even be a Moose hunt in the area I live in. You haven't seen any thing yet wait till they stop feeding the elk on the feed grounds.

If you only have 8-10 Bucks per 100 does you likely have 6 yearling two points & 2 three points that are two years old. Is that a healthy herd. To me that is a totally hammered herd. Is that what you really want. Sad to see the Cache Deer herd in such bad shape. South East Idaho isn't much...

All this arguing is because there are more hunters than Deer. That's the problem. I had no idea that baiting was going on in Utah. I think BAITING is a dirty trick and certainly not fair chase. It's hard for me to believe that our ETHICS differ so much, you would think as HUNTERS we...

No one wants to talk about all the Big Bucks every where? Just want to know how and where to kill the ones we have left.

Rainy & wet brings me here again. Don't call me IGNORANT millworks. The average hunter doesn't do squat for conservation. But rather takes more than his share. Hunters are getting it done all right, killing every thing they see. There are lots of reasons for declining Deer.. And all those...

Doom and gloom me then agree. Less Deer is a fact. I know all about the one big archery buck taken. Several winters he was fed a coffee can of grain by a little old lady who bought grain at the feed store on a fixed income. All big bucks have a story and many are there because of some ones efforts.

I was never going to comment on here again. But someone needs to represent the Deer. So on behalf of the Deer I am happy to be the village A-hole. Mule Deer numbers have been declining for 30 years everywhere and that includes G&H. There are not lots of Deer and never will be again. Every year...

Thanks for trying Aspen. I don't know what to make of folks that wont give an inch for something so important. I only know of 1 really big Deer killed in region G last year. And those guys did a really good job of keeping it under the radar. (Good job for that) 1 Big Buck out of 7000+ Hunters...

What if no one had the foresight to save our National forests and National parks? Can you imagine a world without that. Did you know someone had to fight to save and protect them? There were people who were taking and taking until someone stood up and said enough. These places need to be saved...

Credibility? That's good jm77. Where in Wyoming do you live? Casper? And I am guessing tkenez is in Rock Springs. Guess what I look at out my window every day. The heart of region G. I commute to Jackson for work everyday in a bumper to bumper line of traffic. That a Deer has no chance to get...

I am a Resident and I have been saying we need a drastic reduction in WY Residents Hunting G and H for years. There will have to be some changes no matter what is wanted. Its wrong to do this to the Deer. Sad thing is we are many years late for making changes.

We need to be more concerned with the Buck to Hunter ratio than the Buck to Doe ratio. We need to talk about real Deer numbers and not percentages. When Deer are being over hunted it starts to show up in the genetics. It is showing up in the genetics. and not for the better. Deer numbers have...

And I really like the 90/10 split idea. 90 residents and 10 non residents would be perfect for a few years. Then raise it to 1500 - 150 after that.

Everyone should care. The outdoors and our wildlife is awesome and to many are taking it for granted and running it in the ground. I do give a ****.

AWW... that's sweet pymulies. Now we are having fun. 15 years ago there were a lot more great stories and photos to share. Kinda my point in all this. jm77 There is just no way having more hunters than Deer will work out very well. And it is not working out. This is not just about G in WY ID has...

Here is my save the Deer hunting video.

Hell, I can't even run my own household. I lost control of it years ago. To much time spent with the Deer I guess.

Rob knows that we need to make some drastic changes to save the WY range Mule Deer herd. It is time to put aside our wants for the needs of the Mule Deer. This problem will not pass or go away with a few good winters. Mother nature plays a big part in things but MAN... is a big part of it to. We...

I liked your video. And it did look successful to me. We are going to have to accept and support a LQ in G & H. We are past the point of what we want as Hunters, we need to save the Deer. I don't think some people get how bad this is. This is not just because of last winter, the Deer have been...

There are a lot less Mule Deer in WY now than when MFF started. Not blaming them for the decline, but sure not gonna give them credit for making a difference either. MFF could have the voice to change things but most of there members are against a resident draw, and that is what has to happen...

Y would you kill something you don't even want. Isn't a Deer's life worth more than that.

Great pics HJB, What else did you see? I think that buck is awesome, but I think he is young and in 2 more years he would have been REALLY AWESOME. I am pretty sure I saw him last year when I was there.(I have film)I guessed him a 2 year old last year. He put on a lot of inches. That's what...

Congrats. And way to go Travis, To me that is what Mule Deer hunting is all about. This deer is approaching 8-10 years old. If I had it my way there would be a law against shooting a buck that is not mature. If folks would quit shooting 1-4 year old bucks you would be amazed how many big deer...

Roadless Hunter is right on. I am almost certain that Buck is 3.5 and a future 200 inch typical. I have him on one of my trail cams. No way he is over 4.5 That is a beautiful young buck that could have been something special.

It's to smoky to glass tonight, so I thought I would check out MonsterMuleys.com This truly is a great and fun site to check out. Founder I commend you for what you have done here. I thought founder and I had a lot in common. But clearly...

The lack of big bucks is not so much about horn growth. But more about over Hunting and not recovering from the hard winters. The few mature bucks I have seen grew nicely. The majority of the bucks are 3 and 4 year olds. And not mature enough to score high. I have found 1 buck that is well over...

In the photos above, I see 2 young bucks. They don't look like they will ever be 200 inchers or even 180. But they are young and may surprise me. The bigger 2 point is not mature probably a 3 year old. He is only 20 inches wide and just over 20 inches tall. He may or may not always be a 2 point...