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You have not lived until you've been to Big Piney in January or February. On the national weather report several times annually it's listed as the coldest place in the lower 48! It's both socially and culturally void! If you want to live among the relocated Texas and Louisiana oil patch trash...

I lived in Evanston for those 13 years. You do not want to live there! Avoid unless your are a Mormon! You do not want to raise your son there and the good hunting is 3 - 7 hours away.

I lived in Wyoming from 1992 - 2005. The winters are long and windy in most areas. If you are from ND you should be used to the cold. From my experience I would suggest in this order: Powell - 30 min north of Cody - excellent hunting, has a two year college, several years ago was rated as an...

Thank god for BluffGruff and his insightful and informative post! Sadly in this day and age most mule deer hunters did not pay attention or were not taught in high school biology or science class about habitat (especially on critical winter range) and it's relationship to the overall health...

Ropinfool and others are spot on correct about prices and quality. I have no problem with the American capitalistic system of supply and demand. However, I learned a long time ago that the experience, quality, and overall value of a hunt combined into a hunting vacation is far far superior in...

Let's see - BEFORE the draw some applicants application and payment history was incorrect or missing on their portal account with the new NDOW licensing vendor Kalkomey Enterprises, LLC.. BEFORE the draw actually took place some applicants application history stated successful, then...

So if everything went right why did guys post on MM and facebook that BEFORE the draw even took place their portal account stated successful and unsuccessful? Why have some posted on facebook they received a successful draw result for a unit they did not even apply for? Insurance salesmen and...

Well here you go boys - straight from the email I just received from possibly the longest established desert sheep outfitter in southern Nevada: "Resident guys on facebook are stating they received tags in areas they never applied for". He also had some choice words for NDOW licensing but...

I guess the posts on this thread about applicants portal accounts changing from unsuccessful to successful to entered PRIOR to the draw even taking place were incorrect. Poor outdoordan - he does not know the difference between an on line hunter education course and a big game draw! Cheers!

poor ole mulebuck - the facts hurt when he's been proven wrong!

How much would you bet and has NDOW licensing or Kalkomey posted any info about how the general public can sit in on the draw?

Sure - but that is no indication that a fair and accurate draw was conducted. Based on the constantly changing status of the application information, i.e., unsuccessful, successful, and entered, if anybody has info on their portal account that they drew they would be well advised to print off...

People run a system such as this, not some Kalkomey glitch fairy! There's simply no excuse for the mistakes that Kalkomey has been making. Software and hardware engineers with advanced degrees in computer science have told me that trial runs of the draw could have easily been undertaken to...

Sorry to burst your bubble but my entire argument is based on the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation. If one truly understands that model there's no basis for auctioning off a public resource held in public trust to the wealthiest hunter. How do you know whether or not I have the...

Yep - if SFW is associated predominately with one particular religion I would have brought it up regardless of denomination. I never stated ALL the hierarchy. Thanks for correcting me on my spelling.

HiDesert - your correct. With a new vendor/system that 2 - 3 days ago listed unsuccessful with everyone's account despite the draw not even taking place there's not much faith or way to know if the draw was even done correctly!

If your so gung ho positive about people willing to spend their money why not offer all tags in Colorado at auction to the highest (wealthiest) bidders! If those willing and able to pay $110,000 for a Governors mule deer tag are so concerned about wildlife habitat/conservation then why don't...

Muley - he does not have a point, valid or otherwise. The only thing he and others have confirmed is their complete lack of understanding of the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation!

So if gohunt posts quotes from the newspaper The Gazette about a raffle does that make it factual about the raffle? Does an auction take a tag or tags out of the pool? If you'd read the article you would see reference to a fiscal analysis that 1/2 of the funds would go to administer the raffle...

It has nothing to do with willing to spend it's all about the ability to afford such. And booking a hunt is entirely different than buying a tag at an auction.

Bidding and actually being able to afford to buy are two entirely different things.

Muley - they don't comprehend or don't want to comprehend that the auction (sale) of a public resource should not become more available to the most wealthy of hunters. Look at the dearth of critical thinking skills exhibited by the post about voting for Bernie Sanders.

Muley - you are absolutely correct on all of your posts pertaining to this topic. What's really pathetic is the amount of posters who disagree with you and their feeble reasoning. The highly successful North American Model of Wildlife Conservation is based upon the premise that wildlife is...

Have not worried or posted anything until I read the May 19th post about everybody's account saying unsuccessful despite the draw not taking place until May 23rd. Based on this and other missing information like application history and surveys do you honestly believe Kalkomey has the expertise...

Everybody can breathe a sigh of relief now that the "glitch fairy" got around to programming entered as opposed to unsuccessful three to four weeks after the application deadline. However the purchase of a bonus point is separate from the draw for a tag.

Because inaccurate information is posted on everyone's account does that make it acceptable or correct? If the purchase of a bonus point at the time of application is not subject to the draw how can one's online account say unsuccessful as some on this thread have posted? Directly or...

Well boys, who told you so about Kalkomey a few months ago on this thread? How does any applicant apply and pay for points only and get "unsuccessful" as the result? Makes no sense! Is this what you residents of Nevada wanted out of the new vendor your NDOW CONTRACTED WITH? Did anything like...

No attack just facts available as public information.

He obviously learned the tricks of his trade from Aaron Neilson, aka Global Hunting Resources of Littleton, Colorado!

liecabucks - you hit the nail on the head! Excellent post. I bought a pair of boots made by Han Wag in Germany via Lathrop & Sons. Best boots I ever owned. Great fit and waterproof if one maintains the leather as advised. Finally wore them out after 10 years and hunting all over the world...

missalot - you are correct and if anyone believes that 100% of all money from license or tag sales goes to wildlife conservation then they are just misinformed!

DoeNob is absolutely correct! Why should any state establish a requirement wherein one has to contract with a private for profit business in order to participate in a form of public recreation? Granted the states have control and ownership of wildlife within their borders presumably for all...

bonecollector - you have no idea how much pleasure and entertainment I've obtained from wasting your time. At least you know how to access the odds to draw data from the AZGFD website. Poor ole Bwht4x4 hasn't a clue how to obtain that info and CAelknuts doesn't know the difference between an...

Tikka - nope they're just sore losers! Of all the posts on this thread about how the Arizona draw works only bonecollector has proven he understands the process and the odds to draw. I'm done and happy to be a winner about this topic.

wrong again bonecollector - I did not draw. At least you have the capacity to look up such data. Here you go again, revert to name calling due to my posts of facts when your wrong.

So chipc - can you tell us what your odds to draw a mule deer permit were in 2017 and what my odds were in 2017 given all the info I've provided on this thread/forum?

If you did not intend to get into a discussion regarding my reputation and your post of African PH's and their supposed posts on accuratereloading.com regarding my reputation then why did you post such on this thread? Either put up or shut up! Obviously you have no facts to back your...

That's great bonecollector. Your still there as brain dead as before regarding how the Arizona draw works. The irony is you have no idea of what your odds to draw a mule deer permit were in 2017 despite the information available on the AZGFD webiste!

bonecollector - I was wrong about posting on the NM forum/thread. Now where's outdoordan, Bwht4x4, and CAelknuts with facts that support their posts?

Your right Tikka - I forgot about that one. So now that I've admitted this, where are all these guys with posts about how wrong I am concerning the Arizona draw, how it works, what the draw odds are, and African PH's. The PH's is the best one!