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LE muzzy hunts that you are talking about will be worst odds in my opinion if people research last years numbers. With early regular rifle tags being cut to about a 1/3 of original numbers the point creep just went through the roof for the early rifle adding many years to a persons chances to...

Sweet. Way to get it done there young hunter!!! (y)

Awesome. Way to get it done youngsters. 🦃

Probably not this year. Have hunted them a dozen times, give or take. Always spring time after a long winter. First hunt of the year as the snow melts. Always a great time. Over the counter. We always had high success. I have taken 8-10 and our group of 3-5 each year probably have taken 35 or...

Beaman, Coloradoman and a few more spend a lot of time on that mtn. It is there backyard and their summer, hiking, fishing and camping spot. Has been for many years. They know the mtn. and the animals. The hunting season is just a small percentage of the year and that mtn is a special place to...

Congrats on that bull and the mount

There's always a reason why someone has or hasn't got an odd amount of points in everyone else's opinion. Just saying. 😉

It cost me every year for the five of us. A lot of the time with no chance for a tag, but just to stay in the point game. I do get to enjoy some great hunts and make memories with the family. Just not very often with the tag in my pocket. I continue to put us all in to hunt together. I could...

This ☝️. It is a percentage of total issued tags for that unit.

Shane let me know what you decide. I will help however I can. Have hunted deer twice on San Juan, but been 20 plus years ago. Hunted it twice for elk. Vernon is close by, but never hunted it, but spend some time there occasionally. I live in your same town if you need help or want to talk.

Yep. Done with Utah and Colorado for wife, 3 sons and myself. 🤞

☝️. This. Mass and deep and tall forks.

Agree. I may state one over the other, but if out hunting and a good buck with any of the characteristics shows up I'm not passing because it not the one I like. I'm going after it unless I have scouted and am aware of a better buck in the area. ;)

Mass always get me excited. If it has mass and any of the other 3 then I'm really trying to keep it together and get a good shot on him.

I will take knowledge, experience, confidence and prior success with a rifle and caliber any day. Hell I've seen and heard the horror stories of piss poor hunters, poor shot placement, borrowed guns that are said to be killing machines shooting 180-220 grain bullets. The kill zone in an elk...

I remember him killing this buck in 2016 in Colorado. He is awesome wide and a 4X5. Very, very few would pass on this buck!!! I did go back and watched the whole video again and this buck is a stud.

I received my first Blue card when I was 10-11 years old in the scouts. Had an instructor come in and teach us a couple weeks and did range day on a weekend. When my twin sons took theirs at Lee Kay they tried to talk parents to stay with their kids rather then just drop them off. They offered...

I did buy one of the leupold, but without the BDC turret. Sight in and get as close as I can and know what the load does and adjust like always did before with a regular red dot or open sights. Didn't want to adjust and worry about tracking and returning to zero. Bought 3 of the Vortex Strick...

Seen a video from a sport show where Leupold will make a muzzy dial with yardage for that scope for $80.

Muzzleloader is my choose. Hunted rifle for so many years early on when learning to hunt and building my skills. With the archery and muzzleloader hunts it brought more of a challenge for me and I really enjoy that time of the year for the full 9-day hunts on the mountain. I was successful a few...

Dandy buck and yes I'm shooting.

Awesome. Good on you maddog.

Took my time and found a 2012 Can am commander with 600 miles. Bought it on September 15th 2016 just before the hunts. Paid $10,500. Worth every penny and paid for it's self now. Used it for 8 years of hunts now and just hit 3000 miles. Service regularly. Only use it for hunting and generally...

A lot of us old timers enjoy the muzzy hunt and are not all about filling a tag. Just the hunt and season we have enjoyed for decades. Unfortunately I played the game along with others when they changed the game and added the variable power scopes. Not an ideal situation, but it is what it is...

I agree, but I'm really hoping the current change has that effect to some point. I know putting on the higher power scopes really hurt the drawing odds.

The only hunt you can hunt every year in Utah now is the archery and that is is select units, not all of them.

They did. It is called the HAMSS hunt. ;)

I would never wish kidney stoves on anybody. They will make you curl up in a ball and make your eyes water if not out right cry like a baby. 😭😓😰

Surgery twice. Passed 3 stones times. These were the last time passed and had two together.

Got both the Vortex Spitfire 1X prism scope and the Leupold Freedom 1X RDS Red dot. Put them on and see which works the best.

Me and my 3 sons will actually go through with the change to follow the rules/regulations. Just saying. Just ordered and received 4 picatinny rails and purchased 3 of the new 4 new optics. Also have two sets of Williams peep sights.

I heard from a Ute co worker that is from that area that just like on the national forest the people using the Ute land disrespected it and left litter and trashed the area's they use. He may have watered it down to a single statement, but from what I see on BLM and National Forest from people...

Change back and continue to hunt muzzy hunt because that is the season I enjoy. Tagged way more animals with open sight/zero magnification then with the 3X9 plus scopes. That change just hurt the muzzy hunt and the draw odds.

Is this big enough. If you think it is I will cape it out and send it your way. :p

Awesome Rob. Should be fun. Keep us posted. Nothing for any of my 3 sons. Point for me and now sitting at 18 points. Hopefully put in and draw next year.

Glad it's out. Them stents can be uncomfortable. Had one that was no problem and another that sucked. Hurt everything I started to pee.

No. Planned on it, but just never made it.

Glad your trip went without any problems.

Worst night in a truck was one of those little day rides that turned into getting stuck after dark in a mud bog from the spring snow melt. 3 of us in the cab of a Toyota pickup all night until morning. Once light we managed to get her out and back home. Was one long miserable night crammed...

Yep put in for point for me with 17 points and put the three sons in for a unit. 🤞