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Jake Thanks for posting this link. it was helpful. A couple key takeaways that I gained form this: 1) Direct quote from the audit report "After the auction, the conservation organization returns 30% of the money raised directly to the DWR. The conservation organizations may keep up to 10% of...

I will make it easy and just be posting requests for people’s gps chips and OnX passwords when I draw my tags this year. That will save them the hassle of typing up information to send. 😂 To the OP, congratulations on the tag. Never been in the unit so can’t help.

It’s all good. We are ALL passionate about hunting and it is easy for passionate people to get defensive - myself included. It gives us something to do in the off season before we have hunts to plan for. I’m just looking forward to May 16th when Wyoming notifies me that drew my special elk...

I totally agree. Do I like the price? No Is it my right to chose to participate? Yes. Do I still participate? Yes Is it my right to still express comments on an open forum if I think Wyoming is on the high end for NR costs? Yes Do my comments on a public forum constitute whining and...

I don’t know Jims - was just simply posting a joke. And my feelings are actually quite fine today. I’ve openly stated on the Wyoming form that I agree that Wyoming is on the generous side when it comes to NR opportunities relative to other western states (but WY is changing that and many on...

You didn’t answer my question. And you haven’t addressed the topic of NR vs R costs in Wyoming relative to other states. But since you want to avoid things when you can’t defend your comments by changing the subject, I will address your new subject….

Sorry if you were offended. that was posted as a joke. But since you brought it up, I’ve already addressed the SD non res elk argument in other posts. Nice try and way to change the subject. But you are welcome to join me in that effort to get it changed. I’m in agreement with NR’s on that...

Jims What don’t you understand? NR’s are are “supposed to” fund Wyoming’s wildlife so that R’s can go have fun and reap the freebies. And NR’s are NOT to post any comments to any public forums. Silly you. 🤣

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Post #57 answers my questions. I take it that the 90% return doesn’t have to be just to the “DWR’s conservation projects” noted in post #1 and that the organizations have a lot of latitude to select projects that “they” think is most beneficial. It was my understanding from the posts that it...

Is your dog trained to help find sheds? Or is he just along for fun and exercise? Just curious as my son has an Australian Shepard and takes him for walks in the woods/prairies almost daily. I told him he should train him to look for sheds but not sure how hard or how long that takes. He...

I don't shed "hunt" but I pick up sheds all the time when hunting. Never sold a single shed. What wrong with that? What's wrong with people hunting for legally available items and selling them to make money? Are gold prospectors evil people too? what about rock collectors? Not all sheds go...

Tri please re-read post #35 "Granted this is comparing last years donation and this years tags, but I doubt the number of tags was significantly less." My "approximated" numbers were based on $700K donation, 87 tags, and the fact that someone mentioned a required 90% return. You can do the...

"Watching internet CPAs is like watching Stevie Wonder do touch and goes in a 747." Thank you! Finally some on here who can explain to those who want to know how sfw can justify the dismal $700K funding donation. I will be checking back for a detailed report.

Bookhead You must be sponsored by RedBull. I see you had to get a plug in for their product. :ROFLMAO:

I thought those were trophy prairie dog sheds! This is my best one to date. It would have qualified for B&C if he hadn't dropped his right side before I harvested him. (please note, I'm not from Utah - notice the well bent brim and big ugly ears outside the hat)

TX makes a good point. those tags are worth WAY more than just the 90% return back to the state. They pull a lot of people to the expo which brings in a ton of extra money that doesn't have to get returned. They wouldn't pull near that many people to the expo without those tags. I'm still...

Quit making me feel old!!! LOL I'm 59 - I've burnt my WY max deer, elk, antelope points, burnt my AZ elk points, been on a three CO 76 archery elk hunts so I've used most of the Points I can via preference systems. In Utah if I don't pull an elk tag before I retire, I will use my points and...

My theory is that the special Preference draw probably won't change, especially in the high point units. Those guys have already invested a LOT of time and money building those points. I don't think the increased cost will push them to switch over to the regular cost draw. I think point creep...

11 mule deer shoulder 1 mule deer pedestal (at taxidermist) 3 whitetail shoulder 1 whitetail pedestal 3 elk shoulder 1 oryx shoulder 1 full body mt goat 1 mt goat shoulder 6 walleyes 1 northern pike 1 perch 1 turkey 1 mallard (double bands) at taxidermist A whole bunch of elk/deer/antelope...

I think you summarized things well and hit the nail on the head. WY has been VERY generous in the past and I think that is what is causing a lot of angst lately. It is human nature to hate change when those changes hinder us individually. AND the changes have been pretty drastic and coming at...

I agree with this as well as mountain goat. Two of the four goat tags available to NR's are in unit 3 which is mostly wilderness and a lot of the goat country in unit 1 (one NR tag) is wilderness. Yes I know there are goats in non wilderness portions of those units but it limits where a DIY...

I totally agree with you. I wasn't planning to lobby to change this law. I don't agree with it, just like many on here, but I agree it has deeper implications. Rumors I have heard is that many, many years ago when this law was established, it was a compromise with the outfitters in lieu of...

WB Well you just burst my bubble to try reaching out again. LOL I guess that is why NR's don't spend time trying to lobby for change as Mule mentioned. I found it funny that this senator openly said that he is only interested in his Wyoming "friends" - not about Wyoming "residents" or even...

Mule I agree with what you are saying. I have in the past sent emails to lawmakers in other states but about 90-95% of the time they fell on deaf ears because I don't vote in that state. In the past when I had written to the same lawmakers in my home state I usually got a replay of at least...

I think it is outrageous that the state of UT gives them so much and so many tags and yet the return is so minimal and likely not even the required 90%. SFW must be spending money elsewhere but I have not heard of anything they have done outside of UT. I looked on their website and not much...

I don't know hardly anything about SFW other than their expo and the fact that they have access to a LOT of tags. I looked on their website and they have 110 tags listed. Subtracting out the 22 turkey tags, antlerless tags, and Alberta tags left 87 highly desirable tags. If they are required...

I would be curious to see how many auction/raffle tags each of those top three entities received in relation to what they gave back.

I’m glad to see information like this brought to the public’s attention. Hopefully the decision makers will start to take notice. Thank you.

I’m surprised a couple of the Wyoming resident experts over on the Wyoming forum haven’t jumped all over this yet. I’m guessing not too many wardens want to hassle with confiscating and packing out an elk from the backcountry. Not as easy as sliding it from one pickup bed to another or...

So for those in the know. What exactly triggered this change at the legislative level? I don't see the current system being an issue with residents.

Actually I DO know it currently goes to PP. But this discussion is about changes. Not about current. All I'm saying is if they are making changes and it goes 50/50 the wording could also be changed. Not sure why you have to be such a _ _ _ _ about this.

If that is the way they would write the language, then it would be important especially to NR's as to which half it went to. If it read 50% to Preference Points, then this would put 11 NR ram tags in the PP draw and 5 NR ram tags in the random/BP draw. If it read 50% to Random, then it would...

JM and Buzz You guys make a good point. We all live eat and breath these different systems daily. But to explain them to a lawmaker who doesn't understand (or maybe doesn't even care too much) is confusing. KISS - Keep It Short & Simple