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So curious what everyone going to do or what they recommend for sights on muzzleloaders in utah? Although I agree with the new rules in many cases I wish they would have changed after my wife drew a muzzleloader tag lol!!! What's everyone thinking???

I also would like to know how many you plan on selling.. Limited to 400 is still doable but if it's unlimited that could be a big difference.

That's just being a dink he's asking because things change year to year!! I've got 26 points and have jumped around a few times because my life has changed many times and as you get pass a certain point in the points creep where you're in nomansland you get too thinking you might just try...

Ya I'm starting to get the feeling we need to stick to the muzzleloader Henry's but I've got a lot of people telling me this might be a great year for the paunsagunt especially if we keep getting moisture!!! I look at it that she has a 50/50 Chance at Henry's muzzleloader and a 100% change at...

Ya you're just a big game hunter!!!! Atleast in you're own mind!!!

Seriously everyone don't worry about my wife's antlerless points we have been applying for points only just incase she decides to go after one to feel the freezer. Funny how people are so critical on that point.. Honestly some of the antlerless hunts have been the funnest hunts I've been on...

I know I have unreasonable expectations of her getting the opportunity at a 200"+ buck but again she has harvested 180 class bucks and after waiting so long she is wanting to get something better... The way I see it she has a 50/50 Chance at a Henry's muzzleloader tag or a 100% chance at...

I see you're point but that's exactly what I was thinking zero points still had one chance.. But I understand now..

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No we ended up selling that boat and buying a ranger fish and ski and I knew that one would be impossible. But we did go to Alaska a few times and just flew into prince of Wales island to bear hunt!!

Thanks as you can see in the photo she was excited!!

No she would have been at 23 points the 22 plus one for that year or am I wrong maybe I'm looking at it incorrectly and we still have years to go???? This year would be 23 plus this years point 24????

Agree but sadly my experience with my wife is she says she doesn't know what to do and after wanting to get a good buck she is just wanting the best chance. If you're married ask you're wife where she wants to go to dinner she doesn't know and says you decide! That's kinda what I'm dealing...

Ya I see you're point but this is just my wife I don't have points in the deer pool.

Funny me and the Wife years ago on Reg K in Wyoming seen what we thought was a doe and 2 fawns and kept looking around and when I got the scope out it was 3 4x4 bucks with what we thought was a high 180s buck after my wife got much closer and made a good 1 shot kill on video we ended her hunt...

I agree and infact have made mistakes myself but the wife has a few good bucks.. I will post one of her better 170 class bucks we thought would be upper180s As for the notion we waited a quarter century for a deer tag is correct in a sense but again we have hunted other deer hunts and have...

I knew I was asking for trouble posting here on MM.. All the pros with all the knows!! First the hunt is for my wife when we started we did not think it would take 24 plus years to draw bit after time it ends up happening!! We have had some great hunts in utah and other states over the...

Well once again it's come time to ask the question but it's got to be getting close. After almost half of my wife's life of applying for deer here in utah we are again struck with second thoughts and changes in new laws that have us thinking about what we should do. We have stuck with the...

Everything is 3 to 4 weeks behind normal from antler growth to green up on the mountain.

I have 6 boxes still.

Killed my aecond bull elk with a shotgun in the uintas. No different then a muzzloader infact i think there more reliable!

We rent them from these folks. They have some AWESOME horses and we always get 2 big ones for bigger folks that come to the ranch. They have a horse for just about anyone and just about anything!!! Honestly a great group of people to work with...

Ya only to find no candy at the candy store for them!!!

I don't want to kill 80 cows I want to have thousands killed!! That's what I am talking about. Killing enough cows to get the herd back to objective is not going to hurt the elk herds I'm talking about common sense fixes.. We can and should kill off a bunch of elk without hurting elk herds...

Ohhh I understand why you used the 90s Sadly I'm not a total fan on all the foundations MDF SFW RMEF etc etc etc I do infact go to the banquets time to time bur all I see is a bunch of people donating there time and money to big foundations that eat up a lot and do little to honestly help...

Ya 1 to 1 that might kinda be true but there are thousands more elk then cats!! Simple math simple logic!! Kill one cat save a deer a week kill a cow save 3 or 4 deer a year.. But we can only kill so many ? ? And even though everyone thinks cats only eat deer they eat moose mice elk other...

I'm not asking for a perfect solution I'm just saying thinning the elk herd is going to make a big difference on muledeer numbers.. I don't believe that .muledeer will be going away but I do see a point in them being not hunted or very very limited if we don't do something soon because we have...

Sadly I see you're point but there's a lot of places that do not fit the story.. I'm afraid people think the more elk the better and don't realize what high elk numbers will do to muledeer and the winter range..

Sadly the federal government has no care for the majority of people and what what is best!!! The minority with load mouths are getting what they want and that in this case is wolfs.. Wolf's will in my opinion be much harder on elk numbers then muledeer mainly because there's a lot of elk...

The 90s where not good numbers.

Deer numbers do decline and come back after a bad winter. The fact that now with so many elk there is no real rebound!! You might want to look into those facts! Also I am into the same boat I love hunting muledeer and elk and if we kill off a few thousand elk in northern utah it really...

You telling me I'm wrong???? Come on know ut all tell me where I'm wrong in my statement unlike you and you're stupid 4 word comments I will listen to reason... Lost Creek was a great muledeer destination now it's full of elk and year after year from the 80s deer numbers drop elk numbers...

ANTELOPE ISLAND!! Hell there hurting due to a billion coyotes!!! And the fact there so inter- breed I'm surprised there even out there..

I am also not saying it's the only reason for deer numbers to drop. Muledeer will be the first to have there numbers drop off when there is a problem and right now the problem is there is way to many mouths out there eating the food l!! There is a lot of science behind it but common sense...

No you are looking at it backwards! The major reason for declining deer numbers is infact the over population of elk!! If you bring elk numbers down deer numbers will infact go up.. Killing thousands of elk especially on areas like lost creek in northern utah will not threaten elk but will...

I have No Doubt that if we started killing substantially more Elk and reducing the herd numbers you will see a increase in deer numbers!!! I say this has been the number one downfall of many deer areas I honestly feel that it's much more beneficial then buck to doe ratios and even winter...

All you guys that cry and wine about the deer numbers the #1 thing you could go out and do is push for more cow elk hunts and get out there and kill a cow for the freezer!! This is so true here in utah!!! I see these Private property folks all talking about saving muledeer yet let the elk...

This article is such B,S. You would need a healthy herd of deer first to figure killing one for fertilizer is good for them. Stupid WOKE ?! So I guess poachers are good for deer also?? Hell this year there should be a big rise in deer numbers in Henifer-Echo WMA as that soil has got to be...

Funny the state of Idaho never had cwd until they tested for it, they never tested for it because they did not want to know about it but then the fed says here some funds if you got cwd and there goes the idaho fish and game doing tests.. I don't doubt there is a bigger plan for the fed...