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Exactly but guys still can't seem to comprehend this

It's been that way since CPW opened the floodgates with the no up front fee. It's only going to get worse as more and more of them flood the draw. Statistically they have the best odds at tags just by their sheer numbers they have the highest probability of pulling the lowest random number

Son drew the youth 16e rifle bull tag

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They don't but you can call and ask for them

Not really your odds are actually going down every year with the influx of all the new applicants becoming eligible

Buddy drew an s69 ram tag with 3+2

Wonder if the guys with 10% odds drew???

Not really if your random number is 827100 and someone else gets 000671 even if you had 12 weighted points your number isnt getting lower than the 000671 so your not getting the tag

There was a unit like that. They finally quit issuing a tag for it after years of nobody even seeing sheep.

One of the secrets to helping someone draw was already posted by another member who has drawn more than one tag. Odds shouldn't be calculated in the sheep draw because your weighted points have no bearing on your random number assignment, its reversal, or the tile assignment. You can sit here...

Haha, if you've calculated all these awesome odds, how come you can't draw?

Yeah like I said 1/6 isn't ten percent. Tell me you think these are the exact odds for drawing a sheep tag? Everyone who is eligible has the same exact "odds" for the lowest random number, that's why your calculated odds are b.s. You cannot do odds for the sheep tags like you can for other tags...

SMS3901A did not have 10% odds. I like how your cutting out the applicants on your screenshots. If you notice on the S32 app they didn't count the youth applicant with 3+0 who was eligible to draw so those numbers aren't accurate.

Agreed but someone claiming 10% odds at a sheep tag is delusional

Yep CPW screwed all the long time applicants when they opened the flood gates and waved the up front fee for the big three. Just look at the influx of applicants on the draw stats

not really you might as well as hunt before the wolves really take hold

They already issue tags for 61 in the hybrid but those quotas haven't changed much if at all since they became eligible for the hybrid. Other than that Colorado doesn't have a random draw its straight preference

Are you arguing with yourself?

Elk unit 61 is already 80/20 res non resident

https://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/Hunting/BigGame/Weighted-Preference-Points.pdf Some guys on here really should read this

I noticed Tri dodged the sheep question again :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

I'm not sure how that's possible either, but its his story and I doubt he will post a score sheet

Some guys are luckier than others. Like my dad drew a goat, a rocky and a desert three years in a row. Then another rocky a few years ago. Goat at 3+2, rocky at 3+3, desert first year app. Another rocky at 3+1. It all comes down to that lucky lowest random number.

No they don't and the draw stats prove it. Also the reason there have been roundtables on changing it to a bonus point structure.

You can't really calculate the exact odds. Like my example the guy with 3+0 and the guy with 3+max have the exact same "odds" of their random number assignment. The weighted points are only a dividing factor after your assigned number, its reversal, then reallocation after the tiles are drawn...

You don't know how many are jumping in this year with 3+0. Also how are you giving yourself an increase in odds for moose because of your weighted points. The weighted points do not give that much of an advantage. It boils down to your random number then the tile assignment after your number is...

Your sheep, moose, and goat odds are greatly inflated.

The white boss bull is at least a class 5

Appreciate the info fellas

Would like to chat with someone via pm or phone about this unit if you've been in there the last couple of years. Looking to cash out my daughters points before she ages out of the youth price next year. Been looking at this unit and 47-2. Thanks for any insights. Willing to help in Colorado...

Unfortunately odds get worse every year with all the new applicants getting to 3+0. Thank CPW for opening the flood gates by waiving the upfront fee a few years ago

Jimmy John can still make a large donation if he feels like. My guess is that most of those guys don't give two shits now that they aren't getting a tag and a yearlong hunting season

Why do they need an entire year to fill a tag? How about giving the resource a break?

My biggest issue is the 365 day hunting season. Who on earth thought that was a good idea?

So your down almost 300 rams from 2015-2022. and down almost 1500 total sheep from 2014. Yep better sell another governors tag

Alright Founder post it up

Couldn't have been that positive. You should read the whole thread a few residents claim Arizona's numbers are declining and have been for years.

anything over 70 is a feat in Colorado especially on public