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After drawing NR archery elk in 2022 in my second try, since then I am 0-2 in 23 and 24. There is always next year.

A longshot 6NR points didn't do it for me this year. Oh well, NM is about a six hour shorter drive. 🤣🤣🤣

I figured out the codes are on the "2023 Elk Draw Odds" PDF. Then you can sort of use that with the 2023 Elk/Pronghorn Bonus Point Report. Paints somewhat of a picture. Not as simple as TR though.

I went to TopRut to sign up for the $20 yearly. Been using it since it was free and paid the $20 a few times. No longer an option. Only available with OnX if I read that right. I'm a BaseMap guy so I am not spending $80 for TopRut. Disappointing. I wanted to see those NR archery numbers...

This is my fourth year applying as a NR. I've only applied for archery elk. I drew a tag last year and had a great hunt. At 59, I've probably used up my lifetime supply of luck but I'll keep trying anyway. :) I don't swing for the fences with all three choices, I'm just trying to get on base...

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I'm assuming OP is looking for projectiles of which I don't see any there. There is some loaded 7mm Mag ammo with 160 NABs. I have projectiles, not ammo.

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Well, no AZ for me. NR 4 points and no magic in the random this year. Hope springs eternal though. NM Draw here I come. :)

Is it possible that the high point holders applied with one or two other low pointers trying to pull them through and didn't have enough to get drawn? If they applied with a couple of guys with 2 or 3 points they wouldn't have made it in the bonus, right?

Like some other posters, selfie on a timer laying on my backpack on a solo DIY in NM on Sept 12. Lighting and angle aren't the greatest but with elk, you pretty much take the pic where he is. I'm 6'5" and 285# - no chance of budging this guy. Had a great time but hard work for us old...

Ding Ding Ding I probably looked right at that page and never saw it. The search engine on the AZGFD page never found any of it. Thanks a bunch.

I've seen from time to time folks post a list of point holders by species and residency. I've also seen a breakdown of applicants by residency. I think maybe these are some sort of special run or request not readily available online. I tried searching here and Google and can't find anything...

Thanks Bigfoot. I always run a cam at camp for sure, hoping to never need it. I'm not that concerned about the other stuff. We have several black bears killed in PA over 500# every year and 1 or 2 around 800# but occasionally an area is well know for bears in camps, etc. I try to make sure I...

In PA, our muzzleloader buck deer season is limited to flintlock only, loose powder, patched round ball 45 cal or bigger and open sights. This season runs after Christmas for 2 weeks and it typically snows a lot. Just getting your weapon to go off is a celebration. We do have an antlerless...

ISO ads always add a layer of risk. People go out and find an old photo on the web. You are less likely to be scammed via USPS MO but most of these scammers are in West Africa. They might have an accomplice here cashing MO and depositing them ASAP. Often they hack long time user profiles...

Hi everyone, After a few years of trying, drew a 6A early archery elk tag. I'm from PA and I've been on two western hunts in the past two years - CO OTC archery elk (disaster) and Kaibab rifle deer (awesome). Both were learning experiences as I'm trying to figure out the stuff you really need...

Last year I drew an unexpected 12AW Early Rifle tag as a NR. I had only been on the Kaibab once in 1999. I was going DIY and got there Tuesday before the hunt from PA. Was eating at Jacob Lake Wednesday night I think and wound up sitting next to a couple of their younger guides. We started...

First NM Tag. Got my second choice, 6A Early Archery Only thing I applied for.

I have these two boxes of factory. $60 for both. The PPU are only 90 grainers but the Fusions are 120s. Can probably ship for somewhere around $10-12 as long as you’re in a free state.

I think the thing that seems the most bothersome to the average guy is they had something they got enjoyment our of (putting up cameras, the anticipation of what they might see, the reward of seeing an animal you'll probably never see again) and it's gone. Most people tend to look through their...

I did, first ever muley. I have a post under the Early Kaibab thread if you want to read a little more, don't want to derail this thread. Point was it was a great time and if I hadn't put in, I'd have never pulled it.

Yeah, and I did mean to mention, that was as a NR.

I pulled the 12AW Early Rifle Deer last fall with 1 point. You're right, someone has gotta get it. Can't get it if you don't try! It's pretty cool when it happens.

It actually reads 22,000 applicants, not applications. This applicant applied for both elk tags. I’m sure some did 1 and some did 6. I’d guess there were at least 50,000 applications and maybe more. So let’s guess well over 500K and maybe closer to a million.

Truthfully, now that I think of it, it would be a good scam. It would not be that hard to find a target audience from outside of AZ by looking here, FB, other forums and calling this week. I wonder if when AZ calls people, they are going to request payment right then or if you can call back in...

I know you are tongue in cheek AZ8, but it tells how far we've come when we think odds were 1:15,000 and they move to 1:3,000 and they are "great". :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: Now it looks like I have to answer all the scammer calls I get from 602 this week! I'm from PA, but I get a...

Yeah, I agree, but the fact you don't have to have a valid license to apply opens it up to a whole group of people who are not invested in the regular AZ draw for the relatively low price $15. It does depend how well the word spreads this year.

I don't know about the second part, but I could easily see this raising $2M dollars. In 2018, the annual budget was $118M according to wikipedia. That you could make close to 2% of your budget off of 6 animals is crazy. Elk are the perfect animal, they will draw the most apps and...

I guess, since I was that guy, I wanted to make the most out of it. I put the Savage together late in the fall. It's a featherweight 23" 280AI and weighs just under 7# with no sling or ammo. I probably could have carried a little more weight but a big out of state hunt is always a good...

I’m checking in with an early rifle 12AW buck. I am a NR and drew this tag with one point. Yeah, I’m that guy. I had posted a little here and another popular AZ page in the months leading up to it and got some good advice on both forums. I had a plan to meet up with someone that fell through...

Wow, that is an absolute slammer! Hard to believe this was the consolation prize. I'd love to see the one you were trying to get on but couldn't get a shot at. I have the early hunt in a couple weeks, seeing this buck has me really wound up now!

I understand completely. Obviously PA, and to a lesser extent states like MI and WI still have much less "wild" areas than AZ, and our whitetails (and bears) have proven pretty adaptable to woodlot life. We do have enough wild for our small (1300) but well established elk herd. My comment is...

How many hunters are in AZ total? When I started hunting 45 years ago in PA we had over 1 million resident deer hunters. We are currently somewhere below 600K. Even today still we have about 50K NR OTC. Similar things have played out all over the east and upper Midwest. Michigan, Wisconsin...