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Draw tags only so everyone has a chance, high dollar bs is everything that's wrong with hunting.

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Never once been to the San juan but I'm saying San juan 100% over Vernon just based off the pictures of bucks I see come off each unit every year. I hunted the Vernon with my son a couple years ago and spent a ton of time out there since i only live 45 minutes from the unit and he shot a 170"...

And a couple other critters

My boys Vernon muzzy buck

Thank you he was very happy with him

Ya I feel bad for the kids considering my kids are friends with his kids so I've basically chalked it up to a loss but still pisses me off that he really shows no interest in trying to make anything right with people.

Been plenty of guys stop by his house he either has his kids lie for him and say he's not home or gives you some bull $hit story about how he's gonna go through everything and start returning people their stuff next week or whatever time frame he wants to tell you.

Yep archery

I'm sure you could do that there are a few burns down there, I've only had the tag once and shot a 180 buck from my truck and saw numerous bucks that big from the road, no stalking involved.

Just road hunt the pauns it's super easy layed back hunt

How many points are you needing a guy to have?

Very true, I'm trying to decide if I want to learn the desert more this year or move to another unit.

yes it does im in santaquin, i'll message you

Finally drew a tag crazy it took 6 points to draw a damn bird tag

Where you located at?

That's a good way to look at it, there's enough stress in everyday life why add stress to the things that we do to get away from stress.

Man I got 14 points and I'm having a hell of a time deciding what to do, do I stick with the unit closest to my house that my boy killed a 170" buck on 2 years ago or do I go to a unit that I've never been to (book cliffs) and have a layed back hunt with the family and try to be happy with a...

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Haha nope I have a full time job and a wife and kids instead lol

Well yeah lol. No honestly I haven't truly shed hunted for quite a few years. Too many flat brim homos that don't have jobs have ruined shed hunting.

Sorry but I'm not giving the a$$ holes at the dwr any more money than I anyway already do, the pricks don't own the sheds when they are laying on the ground

Nitto ridge grapplers all day. Have 20,000 miles on a set of 35x12.50-20's on my 1 ton powerstroke and can't hardly see any wear yet. They do good everywhere I've taken them and they are quiet on the highway.

I see the point of this post because it does happen quite alot but this buck was a bad example to use because everyone here including myself thinks this buck is over 200" probably closer to 215" with the mass and extras

I'll take it

I like that idea, all I can figure is half the guys that buy these tags which I'm grateful they do but them but I don't think they could kill a trophy animal without a guide taking them to one.

I don't want an argument I truly want you to enlighten me I don't know how to text without sounding sarcastic but I'm truly serious. I understand that the conservation tag dollars go to conservation. (Wish i had the money to buy those tags). But I would love to know your opinion on what the...

The problem is they cater to these outfitters because of the money they bring in, remember it's not about wildlife conservation it's about money and the money they bring in isn't going to conservation.

And they think scopes on muzzleloaders is the problem SMH. Hell ban every outfitter in the western states and that'll take care of 90% of the problems we have.

Ya that's exactly what I did but they were on there for 3 years so it took a little longer than several minutes It took about 4 days lol

Well I got sick of waiting for Justin to get his $hit together, maybe one day he'll give me back my damn capes. I had Eric Nielson with royal peak taxidermy find us a nice cape and bring my boys 2021 Vernon muzzy buck back to life. Love the look of this mount.

Text me what you got in mind, I've personally only got 12 points I've been putting in with a buddy who's got 17 points.

Only if you're guiding me every single day of the hunt haha, otherwise you won't catch me on that unit hunting deer ever again.

I'm in the exact same boat with 14 points, have no idea what to do lol

Hell of a buck congrats to the hunter and thanks ss for having some balls and not caring about hurting someone's feelings about posting a picture.