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I watched and hunted this buck. Even helped quarter him out. He was young. Just makes me wonder how big could he have gotten with a few more years

Well numbers in all western states are trending down. I’m sure this won’t be popular but close every state down to hunting. Turn up the pressure on the predators during that time. I like to hunt as much as anyone. But it get more depressing every year with numbers and quality diving. I doubt so...

Sadly enough the reality is most LE hunts be it deer or elk, are once in a lifetime hunts. Considering it takes most people 20 plus years to draw then the wait period. And a lot people switch from deer to elk or vice versa after they draw

Well for quite some time now they require a person to buy a small game or combination license just to apply. So it doesn’t quite fly in the face of its all about money. Also, the price of small/ combination licenses has gone up. Have anyone ever seen anything that the government, no matter the...

Not utahs general season. Utah in general. The LE units are as bad or worse

maybe ban guides all to gether. I’m all for it. But it’s not going to happen. Money is the one thing that dwr is not going to sacrifice. And let’s face it, the outfitters bring an awful lot of it to the state. If people are willing to pay $60000 + for a tag, $$20-30000 more for a guide is...

Yes and and the pavhant (elk) is a premium LE. The quality has gone down for deer and elk statewide. It’s not going to get better with the dwr management plans. The premium LE units have all gone down hill, no matter deer or elk. And dramatically I would say. The dwr is not willing to sacrifice...

Hey what has every premium le done? … went down hill. I know the unit as well as anyone. A management hunt wouldn’t hurt the quality. I’d say 90 % of the bucks killed are 4 and younger. They are just starting to get big. Imagine if they had a few more years. There is a bad 2point and 3point gene...

Well, it’s fine if they want to remain anonymous. Then why say anything in the first place?

Not spin, based on facts. Considering I’ve had a front row seat for years. I said nothing about otc Elk on the pahvant just that the quality has taken a nose dive. That is directly related to adding more hunts/more tags. Hence more money for dwr

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They used to kill governors and sportsmen tags deer on the pahvant. It’s been on the decline for more than a decade. They should shut down the entire state for five years. Including LE units. No doubt that they won’t but they should. Even the elk on the Pavant are only a shell of what they were...

People are too ignorant to realize that they moved in on wildlife. They think that the wildlife moved in on them. It’s god damn sad they are killing town deer because of the people that moved in to the deers home don’t them eating their flowers and are on the roads. Sadly it’ll only get worse in...

Nobody should be hunting antlerless with numbers like they are. It shouldn’t even be an option

Don’t pay a guide, if you’re willing to hunt and be patient send me a pm. Spent lots of years out there. I’m happy to help someone who is willing to hunt and not be guided

Profit? Let’s be realistic, anyone buying a tag for that price isn’t worried about the extra cost of paying their guides extra to keeps tabs on them. They probably get more in tips than most people salary

That’s an absurd amount for any tag

Fifth wheels pull way better

thing about it is why even bring it up if not willing to show a pic? Record book aside, no reason to breath a word about it if it going to show it. Hell I’ve got the new world record non typical too. I just don’t want to show anyone.??

They won’t, instead they will just complain about the animals on the road. You can’t fix stupid

They are the worst

Well just because Utah is supposed to be closed to shed hunting doesn’t mean anything thing. People are now just “walking their dogs.” Which nobody did before the closing. Hell of a coincidence anyway. And just wait and see how many people post on may 1 about finding a bunch of sheds that day.

Have you ever seen a criminal obey the law? It’s like gun control, it’s not about the guns. It’s about control. Deer numbers are down each year. They will keep going down. People are just to ignorant to the fact that they’we cause most of the problems we face

About time? 30 years to late is more like it

Jesus is it even legal to look at wildlife without $500 worth of camo?

How bout not having hunts from August-January. Dwr is as guilty as anyone of wildlife harassment. I do believe that it is a step in the right direction. Shed hunting is worse than the hunt anymore as far people go. Everyone’s got the bucks named and think they own them. It’s a f…… joke

Oak creek bucks

Yup it’s only about one thing $$$. They don’t give a damn about the wildlife. They are just using opportunitie as an excuse to push it thru. Quality will continue to decline. Sucks for people who keep waiting for half a century to draw. It’s a joke

Ya a lot of them are oak creek bucks just crossing the boundary back and forth. Or that came down to rut

The oc

Surely more people think that it's messed up that somebody has to wait 25 plus years to try tag and decent animal. The management strategies are what should be addressed. Not crossing your fingers at every quarter century you get a tag

Gun control is not about the guns it's about control. If you have no guns to stand up for yourself or defend yourself or provide for your family who has the controls the people with the guns

If any of the rest of us did what they have done we would be in prison. Not jail prison. They'll just slap him on the list of the fine they'll keep doing what they're doing

Wade

Yeah wait is about to lose his outfit license That's why kailyn's getting his it's not going to stop.

I would be willing to bet some of those remote Tooele and you have county residents live off of venison on a regular basis

Maybe that's because big bucks equals more money for the tag I don't know but I know none of them complain when they do see a big buck

I know for me personally all the landowners I didn't know out there they don't mind seeing big bucks

Well maybe you're right but I know they don't hate the money they get for them tags. And the pushers don't get it the cowboys don't get it just the landowner