17 NR ELK Points

Billinsd

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I posted this in the Nevada forum, which is the same except that I have 17 points in Arizona. I'm 57 and getting a hip replacement in March. I'm still in pretty good shape. I can shoot a bow, muzzy, and rifle. I'd like a good opportunity at a 300 plus bull. Several opportunities in a hunt would be nice. I'll also hire a guide. I'd rather do a rifle, or muzzy hunt than archery. I'd like to dump my points in the next 5 or 6 years. Is it worth it to wait another 5 or 6 years? Since, I have 17 points here, maybe a bow hunt would be good, because I don't have enough for a muzzy or rifle?
 

mickeyelk

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I posted this in the Nevada forum, which is the same except that I have 17 points in Arizona. I'm 57 and getting a hip replacement in March. I'm still in pretty good shape. I can shoot a bow, muzzy, and rifle. I'd like a good opportunity at a 300 plus bull. Several opportunities in a hunt would be nice. I'll also hire a guide. I'd rather do a rifle, or muzzy hunt than archery. I'd like to dump my points in the next 5 or 6 years. Is it worth it to wait another 5 or 6 years? Since, I have 17 points here, maybe a bow hunt would be good, because I don't have enough for a muzzy or rifle?
Unit 1 Arizona archery or unit 27 archery. You will see bulls.
 

chipc

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You are 4 or 5 points behind the ability to get an early rifle tag. So, If you are comfortable bow hunting I highly recommend that. You could draw several units in AZ with great early season hunts. If you go guided you'll have a realistic chance (or several) at a 340+ bull. I've done it twice and hope to again this fall (and I have less points than you do). Its just crazy hunting big bulls in the rut ! Good luck.
 

Billinsd

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Thanks all!! BOHTR, I'm more competent with a rifle or muzzy. The issue with archery in the past for me has been the tremendous amount of patience it takes while hunting. I have, however, gotten more patient. I have not taken an assessment of my points and hunting Arizona Elk again.
 

BOHNTR

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3B muzzy hunt is something you may want to research. It's never rifle hunted (archery and muzzy only). Peak of the rut....starts the day after archery closes. I officially measured 3 bulls from the unit that were taken this past season. One NT that netted in the low 390's, a typical in the 360's and a solid 350" net bull. The giant that was in my field escaped the hunters this year.....if we get continued moisture, he'll be a giant again.
 

Joe2Kool

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NR? I don't have nearly as many points as you, but because of the way the AZ draw works, my first choice is a tough-to-draw tag. My second is a more reasonable tag.

For NR's, up to 10% of the tags can be drawn. Half (5%) of those go in the Bonus round, which is to those with the highest points. The other half go into the pool for the 1-2 pass (first and second choice round) and can go to anyone, res or NR. Granted, your 17 points has a better chance for you to draw than my 5, but I've seen people post on here they drew awesome tags with only 1 or 2 points.
 

cmbbulldog

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if you are willing to hire a guide, call a couple of the, and talk to them. You will have no problem getting on a bull you are looking for with that many points and a guide.
 

jvgunner

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I am in nearly same boat. Going in with 18 non resident. Think I'm going to keep at a early rifle tag, even though it may take 6+yrs. I have been thinking hard about 27, 1, 3b, 3c. It would be a good year to go with the moisture AZ has been getting of late, Still could be dry this summer. Point saver for sure.
 

Abiggerfish2fry

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I hunted the late unit 1 hunt 3 years ago and killed a nice bull, but I went up there to scout while the archery was going on and the elk where screaming and I seen a lot of nice bulls and wish I had that tag at that point.. I live in utah now and have a lifetime hunting in arizona now and that unit 1 archery is my first choice every year now..

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CouesFanatic

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Might want to listen to Jay Scott's podcast about 1 and 27 with Jeff Lester of Hunt Hard before you apply for those. A 300 bull is capable in most if not all of the elk units here.
 
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Padfoot

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Second what BOHNTR said, having hunted the 3B archery last year. I found the 3B terrain mild compared to typical elk country found in other states. That may be something to consider after a hip replacement, given that you are able to recover in 6-months.
 

Deer

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Second what BOHNTR said, having hunted the 3B archery last year. I found the 3B terrain mild compared to typical elk country found in other states. That may be something to consider after a hip replacement, given that you are able to recover in 6-months.

how was the hunt?
 

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desperatehills

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I am new to listening to podcast. I just looked up Jay Scott outdoors. Holy Cow! He has over 600 podcast, mostly on hunting the southwest. The pod cast mentioned above is from 2015.
 

Padfoot

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It was a good hunt but I had some inside help to tune me in. I didn’t tag but it wasn’t the elks’ fault🤔

I had good opportunity at nice bulls and also had a friend calling for me. I just didn’t hold up my end. Good memories and had a ton of fun.😄
 

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