Arizona Unit 1 Archery Bull Elk.

[Broadside_Shot]

Can somebody tell me pretty close how many points it took for a non-resident to draw this hunt?

 

[huntandfish]

It took more than 19 points The people with 19 five of the eight got it in the bonus round

 

[Broadside_Shot]

I'm sitting on 19 right now. Would love this tag.

 

[PCPython]

Do you have the permanent hunter's ed point?

 

[Flatlander]

I'm sitting on 19 right now. Would love this tag.

Hopefully the same # of tags are issued next year. If you apply then, and no one with more points jumps in, you may have a chance at a bonus pass tag. Otherwise, pray for luck in the random pass.

You could always get in shape and go to unit 27. If they don't reduce tags that should be a 100% draw at 19 pts.

 

[Skykarp]

It took more than 19 points The people with 19 five of the eight got it in the bonus round View attachment 79615

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Technically 5/17 people drew at 19 points. Because the systems looks at both 1st and 2nd choice and you do not know who go drawn where .

Like flatlander said if no one changes their applications from this year and tags don’t change those remaining 12 non res ( max bonus tags available ) will draw with 20 points next year.

Pretty nuts.

 

[Broadside_Shot]

Yes, I have the permanent point from the Hunter's Ed Class.

As for getting in Shape, I am definitely working on that. Giving myself more than a year to be in the best shape I can, then 27 becomes an option. If I draw it next year, I will be a couple months shy of 50 years old!!! Want to be able to hunt it hard when I draw. Probably will be my only time.

 

[Skykarp]

Broadside are you at 19 after this year or were you part of the 19 pool this year ( 20 next year )

 

[Broadside_Shot]

Yeah, I am at 19 after this years draw. So I will be going into next year with 19. Sounds like I may be still a year or two behind.

 

[Jdan9]

I got real lucky and drew it this year with 6 NR points!

 

[huntandfish]

Technically 5/17 people drew at 19 points. Because the systems looks at both 1st and 2nd choice and you do not know who go drawn where .

Like flatlander said if no one changes their applications from this year and tags don’t change those remaining 12 non res ( max bonus tags available ) will draw with 20 points next year.

Pretty nuts.

System does look at the first and second choice after they give 20% of the tags away to the people with the most bonus points in the bonus pass all five got it in the bonus pass because of their point status nobody drew in the random draw with that 19 points

 

[Skykarp]

System does look at the first and second choice after they give 20% of the tags away to the people with the most bonus points in the bonus pass all five got it in the bonus pass because of their point status nobody drew in the random draw with that 19 points

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I understand that it doesn’t look past 20% for the bonus pass. In the case of the 19 point pool it had 17 non resident applications and zero res application . Residents actually don’t come into play until 16 points.

Non res can only take up to 5% in the bonus pass which is 12 tags because it rounds down instead of up based off of the 250 tags for the hunt. 7 tags were issued to hunters with 20-22 points. That leaves 5 tags to be randomly allocated to the final 17 non res that had unit 1 as a first or second choice at 19 points. After that the final 12 would be fighting the whole point pool for up to 5% of the tags.

We could easily be saying the same thing and just explaining it differently.

 

[fin little]

IMO, odds will be a little worse in 23. People at upper point levels who have been waiting for late dates will apply to draw in 2023 .

 

[jcford]

I agree with fin little, I had 20 points going in this year and sat out on unit 1 waiting on the late dates for next year.

 

[Jdan9]

For those in the know, how good is Unit 1? Is it as good as it was 5 years ago??Applying with 6 points I just picked one of the higher demand units a my first choice and got lucky.
JD

 

[CouesFanatic]

Great unit but drastically down from 5 years ago. Top end bulls are 330-340 when we used to see 380 plus every year.