camping heaters

pjs78

Member
I am not much of a camper with the only times I did it was in a 3 man tent. Four times I went out west in my life on a hunt I literally froze my a$$ off, So last fall I
went with my brother too the Big Horns mid September with a new minus 20 sleeping bag with a good quality tent, a 18 in air mattress and guess what I totally
froze again. I just don't understand it as the temps were only in the 20's at night
and during the day I had light layers. Getting rained on 3 or 4 days also put the damper on us using tents again.
This year with some luck I hope to be back with my tag with a new game plan. I plan on buying a 7 by 12 by 6x6 enclosed trailer to not only haul my equipment out but more importantly to live in while there. So my question to you guys is what kind of heater would be best to keep us warm at night but also be safe to run all
night ? I have a smaller MR Heater but they do not suggest running while sleeping.I also have been checking into the Olympian wave catalytic heaters, any
one out there have a opinion on them. Would be grateful to any replies and opinions you guys would be willing to share. Pat
 

wilhille

Active Member
You need a sleeping pad that is insulated. One that has an r rating for the temperatures you are going to be in. A normal air mattress will not do anything for you but circulate cold air underneath you. You need insulation under you as much as you need it on top. That would be my guess as to why you're freezing.
 

Gunnihunter

Active Member
Agreed, the problem was your air mattress. Find a good foam camping mattress and you will see a world of difference. Make sure you have plenty of ventilation if using a heater in an enclosed trailer. You would be better off in a tent with a heater for safety sake.
 

middlefork

Active Member
They make wall mounted propane catalytic heaters designed for RV's.
Just make sure the bottle is outside.

But yes insulation underneath is the ticket to staying warm.
 

pjs78

Member
Dang I was under the impression as long as I was off the ground I would be ok. Just to be clear are you saying that I can still use my
air mattress as long as I have sleeping pad or eliminate it all together? If so then just sleep on ground or is a cot better than air mattress ?
As far as heater is concerned I want something just to keep it
bearable not heat me out. Thanks for your replies. Pat
 

elkassassin

Long Time Member
Alot of the Enclosed Trailers are Perty Tight!

You gotta Have Some Combustion Air!

And You Gotta Have Some Oxygen to Breathe!

I'd Damn Sure have a couple of Battery Operated Carbon Monoxide/Propane Detectors With BRAND DAMN NEW Batteries no matter what kind of Gas Heater You decide to use!

You Might Consider a Small Direct Vent Heater,Problem is that it's Hard to Find a Real Small one!
 

pjs78

Member
Yea assassin I am worried about the heater. I know the trailer I am looking at has 2 vents as well as I will have the barn door style doors
in back instead of the ramp type and plan on leaving them cracked as well as the front door. Detectors are a must. Not sure I know of
what kind of heater you are referring to with the Vent Heater. Could you tell me a little about them? Thanks, Pat
 

Deepcolor

Active Member
A good R factor sleeping pad and an insulated hat to sleep in will make a huge difference, and thick DRY socks.
 

elkassassin

Long Time Member
Well!

A Direct Vent heater would be a Permanently Mounted Heater on the Perimeter Wall that Vents the Exhaust Out & Pulls Combustion Air in From Outside so the Heater is not Burning up the Oxygen You Breathe inside the Trailer!

But Like I Said,It's tough to Find a Small Unit!

Many,Many Years ago!

Small Camp Trailers Had a Heater Called a Hydro-Flame!

They Worked Perty Dang Good Even with No Blower!

But I'll Guarantee you The Government was not gonna let them be Legal for long!

Gotta Have all that Electronic Trash on all This New Stuff!
 

hossblur

Long Time Member
I have a Mr Buddy that i plumbed into my propane line on my toyhauler. We let it run all night. I usually crack a vent, generally in my bathroom. I have a monoxide detector next to the heater. Never had issues.

I have the Big Mr Buddy, and a 24ft trailer
 

Homer

Long Time Member
Alot of the Enclosed Trailers are Perty Tight!

You gotta Have Some Combustion Air!

And You Gotta Have Some Oxygen to Breathe!

I'd Damn Sure have a couple of Battery Operated Carbon Monoxide/Propane Detectors With BRAND DAMN NEW Batteries no matter what kind of Gas Heater You decide to use!

You Might Consider a Small Direct Vent Heater,Problem is that it's Hard to Find a Real Small one!
Read this one twice....waking up dead is not good
 

Cali4x4

Active Member
I had a Mr Heater. Ended up with a hole in the top of our tent.

Do not use an old tall propane bottle like from a forklift. Could of had rust in side? Had flare ups like 36 inches high on top of a 30 inch bottle = not good.

Be careful
 

canyonwell

Active Member
We use a diesel heater from Sportsmans Guide. We heat a 16X20 wall tent and keep it about 65 degrees inside for 7 days. We use about 30 gallons of diesel. The heaters are only about $250 and includes everything from stove pipe to regulator and parts to make it burn wood if you want to.
 

Founder

Founder Since 1999
I’ve been using the big Mr. Heater for many years in my tent hooked up to a 5 gallon propane tank. I run it all night all the time. I might have some dead brain cells, but I don’t think they’re from the heater using up all the oxygen.
The big one works great.
 

bullskin

Active Member
A cot with a 2 inch closed cell pad will do, provided you have plenty of covers and keep your head warm. A heater would be nice, but I just don't trust them in a trailer or even well-sealed tent. As for catalytic heaters, they simply convert carbon monoxide into carbon dioxide. Less toxic, but still not oxygen... Some one needs to invent a system that has a heater outside of the trailer but which carries the exhaust heat through a chimney passing inside the trailer. The heat from the chimney would be plenty, and no gases would be drawn from or put into the trailer.
 

pjs78

Member
Well Robb just solved it however at my age I think death would probably more likely than the carbon monoxide but what the hell got to go some time.
Really appreciate all your replies. I am thinking that maybe sleeping in the trailer with a good sleeping pad and maybe using my Big Buddy heater to warm it up before we sleep will do the trick. I will have my son and his friend along so lots of responsibility involved.
Hope to hear more from you guys, lots of good info. Pat
 

elkassassin

Long Time Member
Hey pjs!

I Did find a Smaller Direct Vent!

They Make 2 Different Sizes!

11,000 BTU Model!

And!

17,000 BTU Model!

I Do NOT Like where it's Made!

But Where's Our MADE IN THE USA Choice?

A Guy would wanna Check in to recommended Elevation Use!

 

pjs78

Member
Thanks elkasassin looks like it could be what I am looking for but mounting could be a problem. Going to look into it. Pat
 

elkassassin

Long Time Member
I Read some of the Reviews!

I Hope they get their Ssshhhiiiittt Together!

Looks like some had missing parts & some had wrong parts?

Think them F'N Chinamen Care?
 

Founder

Founder Since 1999
Founder do you have any issues with your Big Buddy Heater at high altitudes?
Never had a problem and I typically camp fairly high when using it. 9000’ plus. At least I don’t remember ever having trouble. I’ve used the same heater for a lot of years. Warms the tent up great. It comes with its own fan/blower, but I also have a little fan I use to help circulate air. In the tent, the upper 4 feet can end up super hot, but still cold down below.
 

BIGJOHNT

Long Time Member
Try a canvas cover sleeping bag system. Works well and you don’t have to worry about waking up. Better to wake up cold then dead. I have a big buddy heater and have problems with it at high altitudes. Finally figured at around 8000 feet I could only use it on low. Didn’t put out a lot of heat. They do have a low o2 sensor to shut off when oxygen gets low. The threw the wall furnace the Bess posted up work well. We have them in our cabin. https://canvascutter.com/ I take my canvas cutter whenever I travel. It has my my sleeping bag,pillow and the sheet on my sleeping pad all rolled up together. It keeps it dust free and dry even strapped in the back of my pick up.
 

elkassassin

Long Time Member
Where You Gettin the Power for a Fan/Fans at 9,000+ Feet where You Hunt & Camp?



Never had a problem and I typically camp fairly high when using it. 9000’ plus. At least I don’t remember ever having trouble. I’ve used the same heater for a lot of years. Warms the tent up great. It comes with its own fan/blower, but I also have a little fan I use to help circulate air. In the tent, the upper 4 feet can end up super hot, but still cold down below.
 

ThunderImpulse4

Active Member
here's a tip as well. Try this it works!! boil some water and fill your nalgene bottle when you go to bed, place it inside your sleeping bag at your feet. You will be as snug as a bug in a rug.
 

feddoc

Long Time Member
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Or just a Sales Place in KY?
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BIGJOHNT

Long Time Member
Or you can try the Jeremiah Johnson technique. Heat up some rocks in the camp fire and put them in the ground under your sleeping bag. ;-)
 

BIGJOHNT

Long Time Member
So?

Is it a Truck Battery?

And are You Packing a Solar Panel to Charge that Battery as Well?
The Fan assist on our Big Buddy heaters takes D cell batteries. The kids used it in the tent last time at the Henries with a 5 gal propane tank . When we don't want to bother with the wood stove. Its a good back up.
 

elkassassin

Long Time Member
Thanks BIGJOHN!

Maybe I Better Break My Big Buddy out of the Box one of these Days?

I Didn't know they Run on D Cell Batteries!:D

I Was Only Wondering How Founder was Packing a Truck Battery back in to the High Country?:D
 

1911

Long Time Member
I am not much of a camper with the only times I did it was in a 3 man tent. Four times I went out west in my life on a hunt I literally froze my a$$ off, So last fall I
went with my brother too the Big Horns mid September with a new minus 20 sleeping bag with a good quality tent, a 18 in air mattress and guess what I totally
froze again. I just don't understand it as the temps were only in the 20's at night
and during the day I had light layers. Getting rained on 3 or 4 days also put the damper on us using tents again.
This year with some luck I hope to be back with my tag with a new game plan. I plan on buying a 7 by 12 by 6x6 enclosed trailer to not only haul my equipment out but more importantly to live in while there. So my question to you guys is what kind of heater would be best to keep us warm at night but also be safe to run all
night ? I have a smaller MR Heater but they do not suggest running while sleeping.I also have been checking into the Olympian wave catalytic heaters, any
one out there have a opinion on them. Would be grateful to any replies and opinions you guys would be willing to share. Pat
Pay no attention to founder. He drank the forbidden koolaide.
 

ridgetops

Very Active Member
I have the big buddy heater and have really enjoyed it. I never run it all night put will run it for 20 minutes or so to take the edge off right before going to bed and then before getting up and getting dressed.
 

sageman

Active Member
When sleeping on a cot cold air can circulate all around you. A sleeping pad works and so does a news paper spread out between the sleeping bag and your air mattress. The most important thing is to wear a knit beanie on your head. do this and you will stay warm.
 

pjs78

Member
Thanks again everyone I will definitely be using some of these
great suggestions . I ran into a really busy time here so have not had
a chance to research the heaters like I had planned. Keep up with
the great suggestions I am all ears. Pat
 

Founder

Founder Since 1999
So On the Big Buddy Heater?

How many Hours Approx. can you run the Fan before the D Cell Batteries are Dead?
I run my fan on the unit when drying clothes. Usually for a couple hours each night and they’ll last 8-9 days. That’s why I take a fan to run off battery. You’ve gotta be able to circulate air to dry clothes. I should be running a bigger fan.
I don’t run the fan at night. I usually turn the heater to low, pull to within a few feet of thecot and let it go.
Sometimes if it’s not overly cold, I won’t run the heater all night, but just kick it on when I fire up coffee water and then get back in bed for 5 minutes.
 

CeKolis

New Member
Hi, we also often go out with friends to the nature with tents and we never had problems with heating or charging phones, because I always have a portable power station with me. The portable power station is a battery-powered generator that provides you with electrical power wherever you are. It allows you to hold all the charged equipment, including smartphones, tablets, laptops, small household appliances, and the list goes on. In other words, a rechargeable power station is a gigantic power bank with regular AC outlets. I found it by accident here https://www.aiper.com/ , making sure that it is a reliable manufacturer, I bought this portable power station and did not regret it for a second.
 

pjs78

Member
Thanks everyone for some great information and tips. It was a no
go for me this year in the elk draw with a 4 point jump in points
for my app but will certainly use this information in the future. Pat
 

Joe2Kool

Very Active Member
I camp in a tent. When it is cold, as in 20 degrees, I have two old cheapo sleeping bags, one inside the other. Wear a watch cap(?), long johns, and socks with toe slots for hand warmers. Oh, on a cot.
Friend of mine has a Little Buddy heater that we've used a couple of times. We also have a CO detector. The Lit Bud takes the chill off. Not gonna make it 70 degrees in the tent, but has made a difference. I'm still kinda leery of it, even with the CO detector.
 

Gator

Long Time Member
If you can find them the foldup beds out a wrecked toyhauler they make great beds for those enclosed trailers the fold up to the walls and gets them up your way so you can still haul your wheelers. We did one that had 4 fold up beds in it they kind of looked like bunkbeds that trailer was 7x16 I believe.(he took back to KY) for a hunting shack.
Putting a small sink with a small table (approx. 6'L x16" W )makes a nice cutting board area in the front with a water draining pipe plumbed thru the floor will make things easier too. plus it makes nice area for setting up a stove or heater. Put in a couple cabinets above the sink for food storage. Put a battery box up front too and run a fan off it or other things. We even put in a small window in a couple enclosed trailers for setting up a portable air conditioner that run off a Genny. All the ones we did Had a walk in door up front on passenger side of trailer.
Do forget the full rack up on the roof to add more storage for kayak and such.
Put a propane double tank holder on the front on the frame and put your hose thru the wall for a heater and stove.
We have done a few BUT h#ll I never thought to take pictures.
I do know out here those fold down beds are getting pricey and hard to find, Wrecked toyhaulers and Rv parts yards is where we found the ones we used for building this little weekend campers and toy carriers. It beats the cot hands down.
Nice 4" foam rubber(The ones out a old memory mattress) those ones are great, using them on those fold down beds are the way to go.
If you get it built you will love it.
 

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