CVA Wolf/Blackhorn 209

74Superlead · Jul 11, 2020

Looking for bullet options for this ML/powder. Presently shooting 295gr powerbelts and 84gr powder.

HIcountryman · Jul 11, 2020

for deer or elk? try federal bor loc 350 grain lead alloy

74Superlead · Jul 11, 2020

HIcountryman said:
for deer or elk? try federal bor loc 350 grain lead alloy

Deer

Sallaberry · Jul 11, 2020

250 grains powder is going to depend on your rifle. Start at 75 and increase till you did the sweet spot for a deer load.

74Superlead · Jul 12, 2020

Sallaberry said:
250 grains powder is going to depend on your rifle. Start at 75 and increase till you did the sweet spot for a deer load.

Presently I am using 84gr (weight) of BH 209 with the 295gr Aerotip powerbelts.

FrontierGander · Jul 12, 2020

waaaaay to much powder and to little bullet for a 295gr powerbelt!

HIcountryman · Jul 13, 2020

you are about to enter the s***storm of powerbelt hatred here on MM ! they shoot great at the range but most here will tell you they explode on impact, thus limiting penetration. .... ha ha.

i shoot a CVA accura with 100 gr by volume of BH 209 with the Federal bor loc 350 lead bullet.

Don't wait to lose an animal before switching from Powerbelts.

74Superlead · Jul 26, 2020

FrontierGander said:
waaaaay to much powder and to little bullet for a 295gr powerbelt!

thats what was recommended at the blackhorn site

FrontierGander · Jul 26, 2020

no thats a max load and its way to powerful for that weak bullet.

HIcountryman · Jul 28, 2020

you will find most people using 80 to 100 gr by volume of BH 209. more powder is not more better all the time.

GoexBlackhorn · Aug 6, 2020

I use 85 grains Goex FFF volume with a 295gr Powerbelt. Your load is too hot for Powerbelt cups. Accuracy will be off-the-map...... oops, I mean target.

elktaker · Aug 12, 2020

I run 74 gr by weight of bh209 with a 300 Parker be which is 100 gr by volume in my cva wolf. If my memory is right it put me at 1850 FPS (chronied).

84 by weight that seems a little too hot.

pauns08 · Aug 18, 2020

I run 84 gr by weight of bh209 with the 280 gr elr powerbelt in a sabot out of my 50 caliber cva accura v2 LR and it does amazing out to 400 yards. Everyone is saying that's too much powder and not enough bullet but I'd like to know their reason behind it? You guys realize they designed a gun (paramount) to shoot this exact combo and they are flying off the shelves so obviously it's a pretty good combo.

HIcountryman · Aug 19, 2020

OBVIOUSLY they sell it so it must be good?! That is not logic, that is marketing.
How much energy do u retain at 400 yds? Have you tried getting closer to game you want to kill? My last 2 mz shots were both around 40 yds.

graybird · Aug 19, 2020

I'm using 100 gr by volume of BH209 pushing a 300 gr Thor bullet with .500" diameter. This combination has been working well for my mzl out to my range limit of 150 yards using open sights. This combination is Colorado legal.

Good luck!

elktaker · Aug 19, 2020

pauns08 said:
I run 84 gr by weight of bh209 with the 280 gr elr powerbelt in a sabot out of my 50 caliber cva accura v2 LR and it does amazing out to 400 yards. Everyone is saying that's too much powder and not enough bullet but I'd like to know their reason behind it? You guys realize they designed a gun (paramount) to shoot this exact combo and they are flying off the shelves so obviously it's a pretty good combo.

who is saying too much powder and why?

Recoil?
More than gun is designed for?
Not burning all the powder? Which depends on barrel length and bullet weight (caliber has an affect as well). 84 get gr by weight is not enough not too burn in a 30" barrel (believe that is what V2 LR has).

I have a custom smokeless .45 with a 28" barrel that I shoot sabotless 270 gr Parker Emax for deer over 105 gr by weight of BH209 (not suggested for non smokeless guns). If I go much over that I will start getting unburnt powder. I have a brake on mine to reduce the recoil probably down to like a 7 mag.

pauns08 · Aug 20, 2020

HIcountryman said:
OBVIOUSLY they sell it so it must be good?! That is not logic, that is marketing.
How much energy do u retain at 400 yds? Have you tried getting closer to game you want to kill? My last 2 mz shots were both around 40 yds.

Let me rephrase that I'm shooting steel out to 400 yards, I've only taken two deer with this setup and both were under 75 yards, i wouldn't shoot an animal with it that far.