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RELH

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This is about all the Dems can offer the American people any more. Pathetic at best and it will fail the smell test.
RELH
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Larry Elder: Trump's economy is so good that Dems' new talking point is Obama built it
 
I will use an extended version of their thinking, and thank Reagan. It slowed some with clinton, and the bushes. And really tanked with obummer but its finally commung back with Trump, thanks Reagan....... And Trump
 
Go to cash boys......when the dems finally get the courage to admit things are going well enough to claim credit, the bull is near death.:cry:

So true. And if and when they regain control it will be even worse. I already informed my broker to expect a move.
 
More short memories around here. The economy bottomed about the month Obama took office from the crash that started about mid 2007. It climbed steadily during his 8 years, and has stayed on about the same trend for over 10 years now. We are overdue for a slowdown. I don't credit Obama with those 8 years of gains- he inherited a financial mess and did what any administration does at that point- pumped a bunch of money into the economy through deficit spending to get things moving again. The real trouble is that we never pumped the breaks as things grew (under Obama or Trump), and we are still spending like the world ends next week. When the next slowdown comes, which it will at some point regardless of who is in office a year from now, we already have really low interest rates, and a massive deficit. If you're planning on making moves with money, I wouldn't wait too long. With the corona virus mucking global travel up, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a big dump soon.

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Obama's economy climb was pale compared to Trumps. Un-employment rate sucked under Obama and welfare went up. You libs are praying for a dump prior to the election as your only hope to dump Trump. Trade deals under Dem presidents sucked to the point they stabbed the American working man in the back.
Even Obama made the statement that Trump could not do what he did without a magic wand. I guess Trump had a magic wand in his back pocket and made Obama suck wind.
RELH
 
Poor Sam... he is just praying for something that can derail Trump in 2020, even if it hurts the Country. So sad he puts his political ideology above a successful US economy. Sam seek treatment for your TDS. Here is his come back But But But.........
 
Poor Sam... he is just praying for something that can derail Trump in 2020, even if it hurts the Country. So sad he puts his political ideology above a successful US economy. Sam seek treatment for your TDS. Here is his come back But But But.........

You clowns really need to learn to read- I didn't say i was hoping for a correction, I said I was expecting one. My political ideology has little to do with the economy. I would hope that any thinking person wouldn't blame the current downturn on Trump, I don't. It is a combination of what I said above- a long period of growth now with a global hiccup related to corona virus. Presidents get way too much credit for economic conditions (both positive and negative). I don't know about you guys, but I made what has turned out to be a very good call to move a bunch of money last week. Now to guess where the bottom is...
 
Wyosam, do you think your invested money and it's profit will be safe if any of the Dem. candidates are elected President. Even more so if you get a Dem. in the White House and a Dem. majority in both houses of Congress?
RELH
 
Wyosam, do you think your invested money and it's profit will be safe if any of the Dem. candidates are elected President. Even more so if you get a Dem. in the White House and a Dem. majority in both houses of Congress?
RELH
I've done well during democrat (and republican) administrations historically. Again, I think our elected leaders get too much credit for economic conditions. Does Bill Clinton deserve the credit for all the hay made in the 90s? Hell no, he happened to be president when the internet exploded. Does Bush get all the credit for the crash that started in 2007? Again, no. The housing bubble that lead to that was a long time in the making. The American people caused that by buying more home than we could afford on loans that made no sense to sign for. Then we made it worse by buying depreciable toys on home equity. (Saying we in the general sense, certainly not everyone but it was widespread). Again, I think the economy is overdue for a slowdown/correction. CV may have spurred it to start now. My biggest concern isn't who's in charge in Washington. I am concerned about the deficit we have been running during good economic times, and that we are going into a slowdown with already very low interest rates- deficit spending and lowering interest rates are two quick ways to boost a slowing economy, and we aren't in a good place to do that effectively. I guess we can blow the deficit up some more, I think we are way beyond a place where anyone can fake concern in Washington anyway. If we do go into a big slowdown, I am very interested to see how Trump deals with it. He is obviously unconventional at every step, so I wouldn't expect this to be any different. Will it be an effective response? I have no idea. Markets and economies go up and down, it has been that way for ever.
 
I agree, markets are going to do what they do for the most part, regardless who is in office. Politicians definitely love to take credit for it when the market is climbing, then find someone else (like the Fed Chair) to blame things on when things don't go well. Some people can see through the BS, others believe every word their politician tells them.
I think if Bernie were elected, we might take a hit in the market, but I think within 6-12 months we'd all realize that it's extremely difficult to do big things like he's talking and it would be fine.
But who knows, as I recall there was talk of a market tank if Trump were elected. But then it climbed instead.
Trump tells us that he's the one making us rich, but I don't believe that. The market and economy was doing good before he was elected, at least in my world.

(NEW Report - Trump is blaming the market being down on the media and dems. Hilarious! Biggest liar on the planet right there. Since the CDC is the one who actually warned of the Coronavirus, Trump will probably fire them so they don't tell the truth, but only what he wants them to say.)
 
Founder I agree with some of what you say but if you think the elite rich guys aren't manipulating the market it shows how naive you really are. If you honestly don't think the media talking about the pandemic is influencing the market you're being very foolish, Who controls the media? Remember when Trump took out the Iranian terrorist who stoked up the fears of war? Who was supporting the Iranians? OOPS What are two of the biggest fear factors in life that has immediate effect on the market? WAR and PANDEMIC. Since trump doesn't control the media I guess you're just going to have to admit he can't control them. Do you think it's beyond them to increase the coverage to make it look like the economy's in trouble to aid their candidates?

Is the market effected yes it sure is, but watch how much money gets dumped back in when it gets closer to the bottom. IF the pandemic get's controlled the market will soar again because it was doing great prior. watch what happens with some more offshore opportunity comes back here. Things like these expose things where opportunity exists and given many companies are sitting on piles of cash let's see what they do with it. If the pandemic engulfs the world then we know what will happen since fear will drive things. If it comes to that we're still positioned well to deal with a lot of the downside since we have pretty good medical care in this country. Will there be shortages? Most likely but we're in a much better position to deal with it than most countries it will ravage. Like all market predictions my crystal ball is just as clouded as the next guys. So i could be wrong but i'm betting on success not failure and on that Trumps succeeded where others have failed even with his shaky cabinet.........composed of millionaires not second class political activists.
 
Here's a good take on where the dems experience in running things is on full display. Notice how they like founder want to point out how their plan is better......and yet they're all liars. See founder when your bias blinds you it's always easy to distort the facts......and a complicit media aids your argument but doesn't support the facts.


 
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Here's a good take on where the dems experience in running things is on full display. Notice how they like founder want to point out how their plan is better......and yet they're all liars. See founder when your bias blinds you it's always easy to distort the facts......and a complicit media aids your argument but doesn't support the facts.


MY BIAS!?!?! Are you serious!?!?!? You're so far up Trump's butt you're typing with your toes! If Trump tweeted that the moon disappeared last night, you'd believe him and post it here without even looking up to see for yourself. And even if you did see it, you'd blame it on the media and democrats for building a fake moon to undermine Trump.
 
OH be careful you'll get put on double secret probation.......LOL At least we're supporting the guy that's done something good for the country not refusing to accept the reality of what your guys did to him and the American public.......TDS is probably worse than the corona virus since it would appear it's taken away quite a bit of your gray matters ability to reason....LOL See that's the advantage of a good education is it enables one to actually look at things from different perspectives to see how they're manipulating folks......you seem to lack that capacity and don't really understand just how valuable that is in shaping public opinion....... Bloomberg seems to get it but you not so much....LOL

Hey founder did you watch the video.......it's pretty good and done by a left winger to boot!
 
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OH be careful you'll get put on double secret probation.......LOL At least we're supporting the guy that's done something good for the country not refusing to accept the reality of what your guys did to him and the American public.......TDS is probably worse than the corona virus since it would appear it's taken away quite a bit of your gray matters ability to reason....LOL See that's the advantage of a good education is it enables one to actually look at things from different perspectives to see how they're manipulating folks......you seem to lack that capacity and don't really understand just how valuable that is in shaping public opinion....... Bloomberg seems to get it but you not so much....LOL

Hey founder did you watch the video.......it's pretty good and done by a left winger to boot!
I guess if intelligence is gauged by whom can get on the internet and post what your favorite news channel and the biggest liar in history tells you, you've got me beat by a long shot. You so edyoukatid. And so talented with your toes.
 
Your arguments keep evaporating..........must have something to do with lack of substantiation and facts.......DUDE had the same affliction........What's wrong not being able to see the big picture doesn't help you grasp reality does it............LOL

When you're a victim of propaganda you're held captive by it.......open your eyes and open your mind and you'll see much clearer. Your TDS has got you blocked, you need a probiotic of the mind......to rid yourself of all that bad crap piling up, LOL
 
It seems that two of our members does not give credit due to a President when making trade deals with other countries having a great influence on our economy.
Presidents in the past have given away the kitchen sink with NAFTA and other trade deals that led to major companies leaving the U.S. Trump is trying to reverse that and bring back the jobs to this country and get a fair deal in trade and stop the butt reaming that Mexico and China have given us
Let's put it this way, China would love to see one of the Democrats become president so they could continue to screw over us on trade balance. They do not want Trump as they can not figure him out and which way he will go except that he will screw their eyeballs out if given the chance on any trade agreement.
Founder your TDS is so severe, it is worthless even talking to you about Trump and I do not have my nose up his butt like you think about Trump supporters. At one time I though you might be a likable intelligent guy. I no longer think that way anymore.
RELH
 
It seems that two of our members does not give credit due to a President when making trade deals with other countries having a great influence on our economy.
Presidents in the past have given away the kitchen sink with NAFTA and other trade deals that led to major companies leaving the U.S. Trump is trying to reverse that and bring back the jobs to this country and get a fair deal in trade and stop the butt reaming that Mexico and China have given us
Let's put it this way, China would love to see one of the Democrats become president so they could continue to screw over us on trade balance. They do not want Trump as they can not figure him out and which way he will go except that he will screw their eyeballs out if given the chance on any trade agreement.
Founder your TDS is so severe, it is worthless even talking to you about Trump and I do not have my nose up his butt like you think about Trump supporters. At one time I though you might be a likable intelligent guy. I no longer think that way anymore.
RELH
Trump has trained you well, if someone has a different opinion, they must be unintelligent and unlikable. That's a great quality for you to have. That's how the country should be, right? If you have different opinions, you should hate each other. I'm sure like Trump, you'd be calling me names if I weren't the site police. That's what's wrong with Trump, is he's trying to tear our country into two pieces, his followers and everyone else. Any trade deal he makes, or immigration policy, or jobs he creates, or judges he places is not worth tearing the country into two. You're a good soldier for Trump RELH.
 
Wow head scratcher. In case you didn't know it the country's division happened long before Trump ever thought about running for potus. TDS is a beyotch
 
Wow head scratcher. In case you didn't know it the country's division happened long before Trump ever thought about running for potus. TDS is a beyotch
OH, so it's OK for the President to keep it going. Sounds like a great future he's working on.
 
Founder it’s no secret you don’t like your president, which one of the candidates from last night is more presidential and less corrupt, I won’t even touch on lying because they all lie everyone of them Mr Trump included. Please don’t give another one of your “they are all better” generic responses, who is the best candidate from last nights debate?
 
I’m wondering if Don Jr had a handful of points in a desirable deer zone if President Trump might not be so bad after all?
I'd probably end up in prison if I had to listen to him for 20 minutes about how wonderful his dad is. Blah.... I have WAY too many options to resort to a Trump.
 
One of the reasons you enjoy what you do today are because of people like Trump in both parties, The left has wanted your guns for decades and the Clinton's helped fund the anti-hunting movement by transferring some of the Pittman Robertson funds to some anti-hunting groups. We used to have good representation in both parties until the left decided to purge moderates to promote their agenda. That changed and the anti-hunting and arms grab has been increasing ever since. So founder I wouldn't be so fast to bite the hand that actually protects the legislation that feeds you. It's not today's democratic party that fighting for you to keep your rights to bear arms and hunt and fish......... But hatred does tend to blind one to reality........
 
One of the reasons you enjoy what you do today are because of people like Trump in both parties, The left has wanted your guns for decades and the Clinton's helped fund the anti-hunting movement by transferring some of the Pittman Robertson funds to some anti-hunting groups. We used to have good representation in both parties until the left decided to purge moderates to promote their agenda. That changed and the anti-hunting and arms grab has been increasing ever since. So founder I wouldn't be so fast to bite the hand that actually protects the legislation that feeds you. It's not today's democratic party that fighting for you to keep your rights to bear arms and hunt and fish......... But hatred does tend to blind one to reality........
I'd rather starve than support Trump. My principles mean more to me than the money you "think" Trump is making for me. I made a living from this website long before Trump came along. Trump is not "the" hand that feeds me. Just because Trump decided to be a republican to get elected, doesn't mean he saved everyone guns. I had guns before he came along and will have guns until I die.
 
LOL You better reread what I wrote and take the emotion out of it. what I wrote is factual. Seems the hatred is turning to rage......and that's not good for your TDS. You better hope we keep guys in office that aren't targeting guns, or hunting and fishing, if not, you better brush up on a new quilting and knitting forum. Since most of us don't knit or quilt it might impact your income, in a negative manner..... but don't fear snow flakes like those hobbies...........and can fill the void.
 
Trump is not saving our guns! You can imply it all you want, by trying to paint me as a liberal just because I think Trump is corrupt, a liar and immoral, is just silly. I'm not a liberal. I've told you multiple times I'm an independent leaning conservative. You just hate the fact that someone who's not a liberal could think Trump is rotten, so you try to paint some picture that anyone who hates Trump must be totally liberal and supports taking guns away.
You're a great soldier thought, Trump and Hannity would be proud.

I'm certain that even if Trump tipped over tomorrow, I'll have my guns next week, next year and the day I drop dead. Trump's not a gun savior. In fact Trump was asking for gun legislation at one point, who knows what that meant. Probably the same stuff the dems were looking for.
 
Boskee give it up. His hatred is so deep and wide I am beginning to think there may be a psychological problem.

RELH
 
it is psychological because I don't think he is a liberal...

I do think he owes all Trump supporters a debt of gratitude for the federal judges so far and those to come....
 
He's talking with emotion instead of rationality. He is too emotionally involved to let reason prevail. Homer & NVJim & RELH and others makes some great points but he just can't see the big picture. He can't see that Trump has been a catalyst to protecting our constitutional rights in many ways including the judges. He forgets or is unaware about the Clinton gun ban and all they wanted to take then. Many of the things we see going on now were floated back then and here we are with things being outlawed in the states. They're not standing down they're attacking our gun right's using different laws and angles to see what will prevail and then they'll run the table. Socialism doesn't allow guns in the hands of most of it's citizens for a reason. CONTROL

The fact he can't see that keeping the party in power that's not going after our guns is pretty sound thinking, especially when the other party is advocating SOCIALISM and confiscation...........and want to prohibit hunting is crazy.........Their base supports these measures.......so they'll do it since it's been the plan for decades.
 
Here's an example of how fairly the dems play the game you know the party that used to represent equality and fairness..and equal rights... They did this because they stood up for the 2nd amendment right's of all people.

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RICHMOND, Va. (WSET) -- Law enforcement officers will not be getting a three-percent raise from the Senate's version of the state budget, according to Senator Bill Stanley.

Sen. Stanley said he tried to amend the state budget on the Senate floor Thursday, February 20, just days after sheriffs from Virginia went to speak with lawmakers.

"I tried to amend the state budget to give all of our men and women of Virginia’s Sheriffs’ Departments a 3% raise for this year," Sen. Stanley wrote on Facebook. "It was defeated, with all democrats voting 'no.'"

Two of the sheriffs who went to Richmond this week was Bedford County Sheriff Mike Miller and Campbell County Sheriff Whit Clark. Miller said the focus of his visit was to speak on behalf of the men and women of Bedford County, including protecting their second amendment rights and raising deputy pay.

Sheriff Clark also said he wanted to speak with local lawmakers about deputy pay and benefits as well as Second Amendment rights.


Virginia sheriffs on the Virginia state capitol in Richmond on Feb. 19, 2020 (Campbell Co. Sheriff's Office)

Stanley said Senate Majority Leader Dick Saslaw approached him after the vote to tell him the reason sheriffs wouldn't be getting a raise is because "they came to our committees and said that they weren’t going to enforce our laws."

Stanley said he asked Saslaw which laws he was referring to, and he answered with "gun control".

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"I was shocked that the Democrats are now punishing our local Sheriff’s Departments (by eliminating a pay raise for them)," Sen. Stanley wrote. "For the their choice to protect and defend our citizens’ Second Amendment rights. Democrats want to restrict a citizen’s right to protect themselves, but won’t pay our sheriffs’ deputies to protect Virginians. Hypocrisy has a name."

The Senate ultimately passed a plan that would fund Virginia State Police salary increases starting August 10 and then give sheriff's office employees a $200 one-time bonus in December, according to WTOP.



Under the House plan, Virginia State Police would get a salary increase of two percent effective June 10 with an additional increase based on each consecutive year or service and local registrars, sheriff's deputies, and others would get a one percent raise.



Governor Ralph Northam announced Saturday that there was "additional revenue from a mid-session revenue reforecast." He said the General Funds revenue will increase by $292.5 million for 2020.

The budget must be finished by March 5 so that the General Assembly can send a final version to Governor Northam before the session adjourns on March 7. Lawmakers would return to Richmond in April to consider any vetoes or amendments by Northam.
 
here's another view where a man in the know says the press isn't doing their job of being objective. But I'm sure it's all just his imagination too. Why does this keep coming up? What happens when we don't have a free press? I would think an AG of the United States would be fairly capable of evaluating how a press is covering stories is relevant. Especially when it part of his job to make sure it's factored into a fair legal process.


 

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