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I had a friend send me some pics last week of a sad scenario on the front. Seems a greedy and disrespectful hunter let it fly on a bad shot opportunity. He told me it took all day for it to expire.


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Atleast he recovered it, but doesn't make it any less ideal.

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Nobody asked your opinion. Just goes to show that someone's probably watching, so you'd better do the ethical and right thing.
 

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People really need to learn to leave their feelings and emotions out of their posts. The only thing unethical here is someone else putting a hunter on blast for killing a buck, legally. No laws were broken and the deer was recovered. That’s ALL the OP has any business caring about outside of his own personal thoughts inside his head
 

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Btw, next time crop the blood trail out of the roast photos. With a massive blood trail like you can evidently see in the photo and surrounding brush, that deer didn’t live any longer than 20 minutes after he was hit. Certainly didn’t take all day when an artery like that gets severed
 

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Actually they don’t, if you post a picture of a deer walking around with an arrow sticking out of its ass, makes hunters look bad
 

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Was the shot in the rear end a second arrow? Doesn’t look deep enough to have been the only shot to kill the deer.
Maybe that was a follow up shot to try and finish the job???
 

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Some times you just have to get the job of finishing an animal done! Ethical or not!
I don’t know the circumstances here but sometimes you got to do what you Gotta do
 

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Was the shot in the rear end a second arrow? Doesn’t look deep enough to have been the only shot to kill the deer.
Maybe that was a follow up shot to try and finish the job???


That was my thought too.

There's a ton of blood on the hillside.

But beyond that, archery is the least lethal for of hunting(yes I bow hunt).

We all want to do our best, but things do happen.

ID be more concerned with the dudes that spend all day watching someone else's deer💁
 

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Yes, if the arrow feel out, then I’m thinking that wasn’t the shot that did the real damage that ultimately killed the animal. It was probably a follow up shot.
To be standing there like that, with the arrow in the hind end, he was probably very sick. Otherwise I’d think he’d be getting out of the open running hard. He’d know something strange stuck in him and wouldn’t be standing out in the sunshine. I guessing that one was a follow up.

I hate seeing it take much of any time for game to die. Worst part!
 

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If you hit the femoral artery the results are extremely quick. Bad shot placement in today’s hunting world sad bit true is the norm. 100 yd bow shots, 500 yd muzzleloader shots and 1000+ rifle shots leaves little margin for error.
Just sayin...
 

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Bad shots do happen and hopefully that’s the case and the hunter didn’t try to get any shot off he/she could that’s unethical
 

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So what’s the full story on this elkslayer? Seems a lot of important details were left out of your posts
 

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Seems elk slayers posts are fishy he has a pic of the deer with a arrow in its a$$ then one with it on the table maybe your the guy who shot him or spotted for the shooter 🤷‍♂️ The world may never know
 

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Story he told me is, the arrow you see was the first shot. The hunter followed it and just couldn't get close enough to finish it off quickly due to the crunchy snow. After seeing the buck he wanted get shot, my friend watched it from across canyon. I don't have a tag nor was I even there.
 

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Story he told me is, the arrow you see was the first shot. The hunter followed it and just couldn't get close enough to finish it off quickly due to the crunchy snow. After seeing the buck he wanted get shot, my friend watched it from across canyon. I don't have a tag nor was I even there.

So you have no details on the circumstances of the first shot? Did the arrow deflect? Did the buck move? Bottom line is it looks like the hunter recovered the buck and did not give up, so why throw him under the bus here?

If you have never had a shot go wrong, then you haven’t hunted long enough. Be careful with karma is my suggestion.
 

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Look how little penetration there is, the arrow isn't in very far. As far as questioning about every little detail, I can't help you there. How does it get hit directly there, without some kind of an idea that it could be a bad shot to take. I know things can and do happen, but this doesn't look thought through.
 

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So you have no details on the circumstances of the first shot? Did the arrow deflect? Did the buck move? Bottom line is it looks like the hunter recovered the buck and did not give up, so why throw him under the bus here?

If you have never had a shot go wrong, then you haven’t hunted long enough. Be careful with karma is my suggestion.
The question is, did the hunter intentionally try to shoot him up the ass? Because that’s what it looks like and if that’s the case, he absolutely deserves to be thrown under the bus, and he absolutely doesn’t deserve that buck.
Now if it was honestly a bad shot due to over excitement or whatever, then yeah, congrats to the hunter. There’s a big difference between making a bad shot and intentionally taking a bad shot.
 

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Exactly my point-none of us, including the original poster it seems, know the full details so what good does it do to smear the hunter here?
I agree if he intentionally took a bad shot then he should be called into question, but nobody knows that for sure.

No matter the circumstances, when one of your own (family member or fellow hunter in this case) screws up, I like to give the benefit of the doubt. If they did screw up, help educate them in a positive way. What good does it do any of us to post this crap on a website especially if we don’t know the whole story. Seems petty and childish to me.
 

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You've never had a shot go astray? Never? I sure have, glad the deer was recovered, and yes congrats to the hunter.
After seeing the buck he wanted get shot, my friend watched it from across canyon. I don't have a tag nor was I even there.
 

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If you read the story you’d see there is two different people. Guy who shot it and guy recovered it, hope that clears things up, hopefully you have better luck in the future
 

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Glad we all know as if we were all there as if the Hunter took a bad shot 😂 there could have been a slight breeze, a branch, incline of range finder that didn’t compensate for ect. all this comes Into affect while archery hunting and hunting in general. Plus on here lots of guys assume what happens automatically based off a picture lmao.
 

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Nothing, you said it, there is plenty of bucks around if you make a terrible shot, go get another one. Good luck!!!
 

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So what was illegal about that situation?

I don't believe anyone said anything about it being illegal.....
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No but you guys are ostracizing this guy for making a poor shot. Glad we all make a poor shot every now and then oh wait I guess ur mr perfect!
 

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I don't believe anyone said anything about it being illegal.....
No but you guys are ostracizing this guy for making a poor shot. Glad we all make a poor shot every now and then oh wait I guess ur mr perfect!
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It's a deliberate shot in the ass, there is nothing positive about that, I don't give a sh!t who you are!
 

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Jason what are you missing? One dude shot it in the ass and another guy recovered it, good on the dude who recovered it!!! But I sure hope people don’t make it a habit of putting pics like that on the internet,I’m an archery hunter and it offended me, what do you think non hunters or anti hunters think of pics like this?
 

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Jason what are you missing? One dude shot it in the ass and another guy recovered it, good on the dude who recovered it!!! But I sure hope people don’t make it a habit of putting pics like that on the internet,I’m an archery hunter and it offended me, what do you think non hunters or anti hunters think of pics like this?
Unfortunately there are " Hunters" and there are "Killers".
 

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Lots and lots of assumptions here. Pretty poor look all around. The pic didn’t need to be posted, the hunter didn’t need to be flamed (we don’t know enough) just nasty all around.

Good for whoever recovered it for sticking with a bad situation till the job got done. This is one thread I hope gets deleted not one good thing will come of it.
 

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Not against the law to keep hunting if you can’t recover an animal.
The only thing unethical here is someone else putting a hunter on blast for killing a buck, legally. No laws were broken and the deer was recovered.
Sometimes you just need the get an arrow in it then worry about it after.
I guess the point of these posts is that if something isn't technically illegal and no laws are broken, it's okay and we all have to support it?

smh
 

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Wanting to make sure I'm following this story correctly, since everyone is in the know.

1. Hunter was/is unethical
2. Deer deliberately shot in the butt
3. Took all day for the deer to die and be recovered
4. The one who shot and one who recovered were two separate people
5. We're all dumb *$$'$ for making assumptions and throwing guilt before facts

Did I miss anything?
 

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Jason what are you missing? One dude shot it in the ass and another guy recovered it, good on the dude who recovered it!!! But I sure hope people don’t make it a habit of putting pics like that on the internet,I’m an archery hunter and it offended me, what do you think non hunters or anti hunters think of pics like this?
I don't know what info you got but the info from the original post does not give any info you posted about the hunter posting the picture or that someone else had recovered the buck.
The original picture was posted by Elkslayer and Elkslayer said his friend had sent him the pictures and his friend had watched across tge canyon. The second post from Elkslaayer stayed that atleast he recovered it, with that statement i assumed the the huy that had originally shot the buck had recovered it.
Yes I agree the original picture should not have been put on this site. The picture was not from the hunter that shot the deer nor was there any real info on details of the shot.
We do not know if the buck was standing quartering away (alot of guys take that shot) and the buck moved as he shot, I do not consider that as a deliberate shot in the ass.
Obviously no one on this post knows the details of the shot or even the recovery of the buck. If someone does know the details they are diffintly not sharing the details.
Grizz you do not have to support the situation, but if it is technically legal and no laws are broken it is OK.
Stop making assumptions.
Good for the hunter. Great buck.
 

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I don't know what info you got but the info from the original post does not give any info you posted about the hunter posting the picture or that someone else had recovered the buck.
The original picture was posted by Elkslayer and Elkslayer said his friend had sent him the pictures and his friend had watched across tge canyon. The second post from Elkslaayer stayed that atleast he recovered it, with that statement i assumed the the huy that had originally shot the buck had recovered it.
Yes I agree the original picture should not have been put on this site. The picture was not from the hunter that shot the deer nor was there any real info on details of the shot.
We do not know if the buck was standing quartering away (alot of guys take that shot) and the buck moved as he shot, I do not consider that as a deliberate shot in the ass.
Obviously no one on this post knows the details of the shot or even the recovery of the buck. If someone does know the details they are diffintly not sharing the details.
Grizz you do not have to support the situation, but if it is technically legal and no laws are broken it is OK.
Stop making assumptions.
Good for the hunter. Great buck.
Story he told me is, the arrow you see was the first shot. The hunter followed it and just couldn't get close enough to finish it off quickly due to the crunchy snow. After seeing the buck he wanted get shot, my friend watched it from across canyon. I don't have a tag nor was I even there.
 

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Can someone post a link to the utah big game rule book where it discusses ethics and what’s acceptable and what isn’t? Sure hear a lot about this topic but I’ve yet to see where it’s printed on what is ok and what isn’t
Maybe Utah doesn’t have hunter education courses?? The bow hunter education course I took here in Wyoming said “it’s unethical to try to shoot a deer up the ass”. I forget what page of what book. You look it up. Or you could just use common sense and have a little respect for the animals we hunt, and the hunters who enjoy hunting them.
 

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Story he told me is, the arrow you see was the first shot. The hunter followed it and just couldn't get close enough to finish it off quickly due to the crunchy snow. After seeing the buck he wanted get shot, my friend watched it from across canyon. I don't have a tag nor was I even there.
So from that story. Details of the hunt.
Was the shot meant for the ass or a unfortunate circumstance happen?
Who posted the picture?
Who recovered the buck?
I just do not read any details and I read alot of assumptions.
 

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Can someone post a link to the utah big game rule book where it discusses ethics and what’s acceptable and what isn’t? Sure hear a lot about this topic but I’ve yet to see where it’s printed on what is ok and what isn’t

Legally you can sleep with that stripper.

Ethically, im betting your wife might not approve.



Its called a Texas heart shot for a reason, and im pretty sure its not a compliment.


But no, its not illegal.
 

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So from that story. Details of the hunt.
Was the shot meant for the ass or a unfortunate circumstance happen?
Who posted the picture?
Who recovered the buck?
I just do not read any details and I read alot of assumptions.
Sounds good
 

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Can someone post a link to the utah big game rule book where it discusses ethics and what’s acceptable and what isn’t? Sure hear a lot about this topic but I’ve yet to see where it’s printed on what is ok and what isn’t

It’s not anything you can learn. You either got it or you don’t. Lots of good examples above. It’s kind of like this, there is no law about me farting near you while you’re eating, I just know not to do it and no one taught me about farting next to people and the why’s and why nots about it.
 

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Maybe Utah doesn’t have hunter education courses?? The bow hunter education course I took here in Wyoming said “it’s unethical to try to shoot a deer up the ass”. I forget what page of what book. You look it up. Or you could just use common sense and have a little respect for the animals we hunt, and the hunters who enjoy hunting them.
That’s what I suspected. Ethics aren’t laws.

it’s odd that more people are concerned with following their own personal ethics than following the laws.

Just making sure I didn’t miss anything.
 

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Wanting to make sure I'm following this story correctly, since everyone is in the know.

1. Hunter was/is unethical
2. Deer deliberately shot in the butt
3. Took all day for the deer to die and be recovered
4. The one who shot and one who recovered were two separate people
5. We're all dumb *$$'$ for making assumptions and throwing guilt before facts

Did I miss anything?
Not sure if you're responding to me, but I made no comment whatsoever regarding this specific buck. Only referring to the posts I quoted referring to just getting an arrow in an animal and then worrying about it, keep killing until you recover, and that if it's legal then it must be okay.


Grizz you do not have to support the situation, but if it is technically legal and no laws are broken it is OK.
Wrong. It would technically be legal to shoot an otherwise healthy deer with a horn caught in a fence or one that fell through the ice and was swimming and then tag the animals, but I DO NOT have to agree that would be fair chase hunting and that it's ethical and okay. A person can have their opinion and shoot those deer and won't get a ticket, but I have every right to be critical of that decision. Ethics and opinions go both ways.

It's not illegal to take pot shots at animals far outside my abilities, but I don't do it. Some people consider baiting okay, but most western states have deemed it unethical and illegal. We all know some outfitters that hunt nearly exclusively over bait, but I don't see anywhere on their websites about that being the experience. The fact that I've never seen an article in Epic or HF with the trophy sitting next to a pile of Granny Smith's shows me even people who do it aren't proud of it.
 

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Can someone post a link to the utah big game rule book where it discusses ethics and what’s acceptable and what isn’t? Sure hear a lot about this topic but I’ve yet to see where it’s printed on what is ok and what isn’t
How about the fact that an ethics course is required for the Extended Archery hunt. Obviously DWR considers ethics an important part of hunting.

One things for sure, you and I were not raised to look at hunting in the same way.

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@grizzly Didn't have anyone specific in mind. Was just pointing out the silliness this thread has turned into. No one posting knows the details from the hunter, yet we already have some great judgments and stories evolving.
 

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@grizzly Didn't have anyone specific in mind. Was just pointing out the silliness this thread has turned into. No one posting knows the details from the hunter, yet we already have some great judgments and stories evolving.
^This^
Im still not sure, based on what’s posted, who recovered the buck. Another thing, as notdone pointed out, was a quartering shot taken and the buck stepped or jumped the string? Sometimes things happen and facts are missing. Maybe Elkslayer can fill in some blanks before the tar and feathers?
 

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Can someone post a link to the utah big game rule book where it discusses ethics and what’s acceptable and what isn’t? Sure hear a lot about this topic but I’ve yet to see where it’s printed on what is ok and what isn’t
Today marked my 25 deer opener that I’ve participated in, here in Utah. I am shocked by the amount of inconsiderate, entitled people that are out on our public land hunting these days. And the really bad part is, most of them have kids with them and are showing them that it’s ok to act this way towards other hunters. There was a number of things I witnessed today, one of which a guy who had been on the mountain since last night, bedded a buck and began his stalk. Another guy saw this taking place and RAN down hill as fast as he could to cut the other guy off, completely blowing opportunities for either hunter. I visited with the kid who was the first hunter to begin the stalk and he asked if this type of behavior was normal for that area. I said it didn’t use to be, but it’s getting more common. I’d be shocked if the kid was older than 18. The other dude was at least 40 from what I could tell through glass. And this deer was by no means “worth it”. It was a damn 18” 3x3. I saw a few other things take place that all I could really say was ‘wow’. I get we all wanna be heroes and fill our tags, but come on. I know it’s opening day, but that excuse doesn’t fly when this stuff is taking place. This is blatant disrespect and douchery. 10 years ago, I never saw any of this stuff. Now it’s an everyday occurrence.

anyways, rant over. It was good to get back out in the hills. It’s been a long summer! Hope everyone has an enjoyable day without too much bullchit to deal with from other hunters.
 

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That’s what I suspected. Ethics aren’t laws.

it’s odd that more people are concerned with following their own personal ethics than following the laws.

Just making sure I didn’t miss anything.
What’s odd, is that apparently there are a few more people than I originally suspected, who are ok with taking ridiculous shots at animals with the attitude of “let’s see what happens and if I can’t find it I’ll shoot another one.” The same type of guy who takes 100 yard shots with their bow, or try shooting them up the ass. (Sounds like you deerkiller) I’d be willing to bet the guys with that attitude either didn’t have a dad, (which would really be a shame) or their dad didn’t teach them what they ought to have. Hopefully guys like that don’t reproduce.
 

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Deer killer I find it ironic you start a whole thread on ethics yet you need someone to point them out for you
 

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The guy that shot it recovered it. The guy that took the pics didn't have a good opportunity to go after it, so he sat back and watched it instead of making a bad situation worse.
 

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The guy that shot it recovered it. The guy that took the pics didn't have a good opportunity to go after it, so he sat back and watched it instead of making a bad situation worse.

So a guy shot a deer, made a poor hit, but stuck with it all day long and eventually was able to recover the buck.

Congrats to the hunter, sucks the shot wasn't perfect but at least he stuck with it and recovered his buck. I see no reason to blast this all over one of the more popular hunting pages in Utah.

Pretty disappointing really.

I say much to do about nothing.

Everyone carry on with the mud slinging.
 

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Today marked my 25 deer opener that I’ve participated in, here in Utah. I am shocked by the amount of inconsiderate, entitled people that are out on our public land hunting these days. And the really bad part is, most of them have kids with them and are showing them that it’s ok to act this way towards other hunters. There was a number of things I witnessed today, one of which a guy who had been on the mountain since last night, bedded a buck and began his stalk. Another guy saw this taking place and RAN down hill as fast as he could to cut the other guy off, completely blowing opportunities for either hunter. I visited with the kid who was the first hunter to begin the stalk and he asked if this type of behavior was normal for that area. I said it didn’t use to be, but it’s getting more common. I’d be shocked if the kid was older than 18. The other dude was at least 40 from what I could tell through glass. And this deer was by no means “worth it”. It was a damn 18” 3x3. I saw a few other things take place that all I could really say was ‘wow’. I get we all wanna be heroes and fill our tags, but come on. I know it’s opening day, but that excuse doesn’t fly when this stuff is taking place. This is blatant disrespect and douchery. 10 years ago, I never saw any of this stuff. Now it’s an everyday occurrence.

anyways, rant over. It was good to get back out in the hills. It’s been a long summer! Hope everyone has an enjoyable day without too much bullchit to deal with from other hunters.
And? You learned how to quote posts from other pages? Notice how I didn’t use the word ‘ethics’ or ‘ethical’ anywhere in that post? The stuff I was talking about could actually be defined as “breaking the law” if you were to look at if from a hunter harassment perspective, based upon what I witnessed that day. Not hunter ‘ethics’
 

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blowing a guys stalk is illegal ? No it’s unethical but you can call it what you want

According to some here, if it's not illegal then it's okay.↓↓↓

Grizz you do not have to support the situation, but if it is technically legal and no laws are broken it is OK.

It seems most of us here disagree with that sentiment, but there's apparently a few that rely on laws to govern because I keep seeing over and over the idea that the only thing that matters is the law.
 

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I guess it’s all in how you were taught to hunt, some are taught to respect the animal and treat other hunters how you’d want to be treated, some were taught that if it’s legal it’s ok.
 

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Not sure if you're responding to me, but I made no comment whatsoever regarding this specific buck. Only referring to the posts I quoted referring to just getting an arrow in an animal and then worrying about it, keep killing until you recover, and that if it's legal then it must be okay.



Wrong. It would technically be legal to shoot an otherwise healthy deer with a horn caught in a fence or one that fell through the ice and was swimming and then tag the animals, but I DO NOT have to agree that would be fair chase hunting and that it's ethical and okay. A person can have their opinion and shoot those deer and won't get a ticket, but I have every right to be critical of that decision. Ethics and opinions go both ways.

It's not illegal to take pot shots at animals far outside my abilities, but I don't do it. Some people consider baiting okay, but most western states have deemed it unethical and illegal. We all know some outfitters that hunt nearly exclusively over bait, but I don't see anywhere on their websites about that being the experience. The fact that I've never seen an article in Epic or HF with the trophy sitting next to a pile of Granny Smith's shows me even people who do it aren't proud of it.
Grizz I agree with you 110 percent.
It is your right to comment on the ethics of the hunt and nothing wrong with commenting if we all know the full circumstances. But in this case it is still not clear if this hunter was unethical, no clear information on the shot.
I was hunting with a friend a few years back he had a good quartering away shot on a spike bull as he realesed his arrow the bull turned slightly and my friend hit the bull just a couple inches to the side of the bum hole. The arrow went in and hit the Femoral Artery the bull spun a full circle and fell down dead.
Was it unethical for taken a quartering away shot, maybe for some but I know most pepole will take that shot especially if it is fairly close.
In my opinion the unethical part of this story is the fact some pictures got posted by one person that had no buisness posting of another person.
 

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Grizz I agree with you 110 percent.
It is your right to comment on the ethics of the hunt and nothing wrong with commenting if we all know the full circumstances. But in this case it is still not clear if this hunter was unethical, no clear information on the shot.
I was hunting with a friend a few years back he had a good quartering away shot on a spike bull as he realesed his arrow the bull turned slightly and my friend hit the bull just a couple inches to the side of the bum hole. The arrow went in and hit the Femoral Artery the bull spun a full circle and fell down dead.
Was it unethical for taken a quartering away shot, maybe for some but I know most pepole will take that shot especially if it is fairly close.
In my opinion the unethical part of this story is the fact some pictures got posted by one person that had no buisness posting of another person.
👍🏻

I'veve not made a single comment on the particulars of this deer because I have no knowledge of it... just the general idea that "if it's legal, it's okay."

I do not agree with that idea at all.
 

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Well this isn't the way I wanted to celebrate this buck's life nor be noticed. I appreciate those that were able to sniff this out and not jump to conclusions.
I was the guy who shot the buck posted above. It was an exhilarating experience filled with highs and lows as you are able to see above. Many days were put in for this to finally come to fruition and achieve this life-long goal. I do not feel this is the place to go into detail about my hunt and all of the hard work that led up to the harvest but I do feel it necessary to clarify and put this to bed so their is no more assumptions as to what happened.

We had been hunting this buck for two weeks already. That day, I had watched the buck until he bedded which was right around 10:00am. He had been chasing and pushing his does all morning in the timber/quakies. After I saw him bed I heard two guys in the bottom talking and working their way up the ridge that I was on, about 1/4 mile away. I moved off and hiked up about 800 yds and started my stalk on the big-4, some people referred to him as the Prophet. I got up to him at 11:15 and maneuvered around to make a shot. Yes the snow was crunchy, but I was able to get within 57yds and was above him shooting down. He was facing to the left and quartering away. There was one small branch, about one inch in diameter that intersected his body. I felt confident it wouldn't interfere with my shot. Now, I have killed plenty of animals with a bow but never a B&C animal. To say that I wasn't a little nervous would not be true. I am sure the guys that took my place on the ridge could see that I drew back and let off probably three or four times just to calm down my breathing. If they were watching close enough they might have noticed me removing my hat and saying a prayer before I released an arrow. I finally calmed my nerves, controlled my breathing, drew back, anchored and released. Arrow was flying true until it hit the branch and made it drop and hit him in the L hindquarter. I immediately felt sick inside and rushed a second shot that missed. Surprisingly, with the amount of blood gushing out of his quarter I could tell he wasn't going anywhere quickly and was hit hard. I ranged him and was able to put another shot into the boiler. He took a few steps and disappeared behind a pine tree and out of my view. This was at 11:39am. I sent my wife a text and told her I felt sick to my stomach, knowing the first shot was not ideal but felt better about the last one. I never heard a crash and was unsure where he went. I waited and 20 minutes later I watched a crow land behind the pine tree and then fly off 20 seconds later. I took a few steps to my right and saw the buck bedded with his head up and then get the death look in his eyes and rolled down the mountain about 20 yds and stopped behind another pine tree just out of my view. I didn't want to rush anything so I figured I would wait for my friend that was above me to work his way down to me. This took another hour. The buck rolled one more time a little further down possibly due to the steepness of the mountain. Either way, I worked my way over to the buck and was able to retrieve him and take some grip n' grins at 1:43pm. I was flooded with emotions. I am sure many of you can relate.

So, does two hours and four minutes equate to all day? or too long to wait for a buck to expire?

I would encourage elkslayer to delete the pic as it is offensive to the bowhunting community, hunters in general and still makes me feel sick inside seeing it.
Had your friends shown up earlier and expressed a tremendous amount of interest in shooting the buck; I would have been more than happy to help them out because that is the type of guy I am. Although, to be completely honest I am pretty certain they had no clue the buck was even there or had been there, but success is success to me. Whether it is mine or someone else's. The buck did not have my name on him despite the amount of time I put in trying to find him. I know of three other guys who put in just as much if not more time in the early season trying to kill him. A lot of hunters did. Afterall, it is the Wasatch Front.

Hopefully this clears things up. Elkslayer no hard feelings to you or your buddy. If I run in to you on the mountain I would be happy to help you guys find a respectable buck and share a glassing knob. Looks like we use the same taxidermist.
 

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As long as the hunter was able to post pictures of his buck on Instagram that’s all that matters.
As far as we know the hunter hasn't posted anything about the buck on social media, Is all we have is a brief description from another disgruntled hunters friend. And the photos he posted to make the guy look bad.

Edit: hunter posted atvthe same time i did, only confirmed what i said.

Congratulations on an awesome buck Dr. Hunter
 
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elkhunterUT

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Congrats Dr_Hunter on an awesome buck and thanks for sharing the actual details of the hunt. Sounds like you worked hard for the buck and even with a shot that went bad (it has happened or will happen to all of us), you stuck with it and got the buck.

As for the rest of the garbage posts in this thread, they were just as I suspected. Very little truth and detail and a whole lot of jealousy. That is never a good combo!
 

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Congrats John boy on a awesome buck ! I kept my my mouth shut waiting for you to reply if you wanted to. Glad you got the job done and recovered the animal in a timely mater !
 

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Congrats Dr_Hunter on an awesome buck and thanks for sharing the actual details of the hunt. Sounds like you worked hard for the buck and even with a shot that went bad (it has happened or will happen to all of us), you stuck with it and got the buck.

As for the rest of the garbage posts in this thread, they were just as I suspected. Very little truth and detail and a whole lot of jealousy. That is never a good combo!
Yea I’ve always been so jealous that I haven’t had a pic of one of my bad shots put on the internet for all to see
 

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So you are admitting to posting some of the garbage posts. good to see you admitting when you are wrong.
I admitted that the first guys story was a lot different than the guy who actually shot the deer, if your cool with having pics of you making a bad shot posted for everyone to see, get with elk slayer, he will take care of it for ya😂
 
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