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How big do you all think this goat is?
I would agree. Very high 70's - to just over 80-81. I killed a buck like him in Wyoming that netted 81 4/8 , my late wife also took one very much like him, also a net 81 4/8. 1/2 inch short, on both. Darn !! The length or lack of was the main problem. Also needed more mass to get to mid 80 ' s which is what you need. Darn nice buck , close, but no cigar. Just my opinion. I'm not great either on goats, even though been hunting them since '78. They are really really tough !! Jerry Goldright at 79, 6 1/2 inch bases, 6 inch cutters, and close to 15 in length. By the way I suck at judging goats!
Eli, thanks for the knowledge. Is that what he's at now? Or what you think he will finish off at? Just wondering what to expect for growth from this point on.
That's what I'd call him right now. But I wouldn't expect that to change too much. Personally, I'd go after that crazy gnarly spiky buck that you found. That buck could be just as big or bigger. It was tough to tell because the side view was taken from above him quite a bit.
The inner ear from the base to the tip of a mature antelope measures 5" to use as a "gauge" for length. This buck looks like he will only get two circumference measures below the cutter, the base and 1/4 L. The 1/2 L will likely be above the cutter, the 3/4 L definately so you just lost valuable inches of "2 pi r" on those two circumferences.
He will make up for it on his cutters, but only by a few inches. The mass of base and 1/4 will also help. You usually need high prongs to tip the 80" mark.
High 70's. I would shoot him in a heartbeat.
From my understanding it is fairly rare (not unheard of) to get 3 mass measurements below the prong. so I wouldn't say he is losing inches. Just not getting those bonus inches that some bucks get.
Mass measurements are dependent on the length. If the length is 16", then they come in at 4", 8", and 12". If the prongs sit at 6", then you'll loose out on the 8" measurement.
The higher the prong sits relative to the length, the higher the overall score. Ideal to only have one circumfrence measurement above the prong. This buck in particular has relatively low sitting prongs.
I am no judge of pronghorn, but I don't think he is much over 14 and I think his first and second mass look greater than they are because his prongs are so low. Great prongs, though, good mass up top, and I love the white tips. I would should him for that alone. Please let us know how he measures out.
I saw that buck and couldn’t make up my mind but after the second trip back to where he was at I pulled the trigger on him , thought for sure he was at least 80 + , but after I ruff scored him I couldn’t get 80 and had him officially scored at 77 , oh well he’s a great looking goat and like they say it’s hard animal to score, I’ll try to find my score sheet and post it , he was over 15” tall .
As thick as here is below the prong and as long as those cutters are, I'm not sure that he did lose and mass up top. I think he lost some length up there, but not mass. Stud buck no matter how you look at itThin on top looks like he lost some mass on top but gained some on the bottom...will be a dandy for sure!!!!