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Damage prompts trail closure in Bitterroot Forest
By BUDDY SMITH Staff Reporter


Increasing damage along a trail in the Bitterroot National Forest near Hamilton has prompted officials to close it to all motorized use, the agency said.

Sleeping Child Trail No. 105 is in an area about four miles east of Little Sleeping Child Road. Bitterroot Forest Supervisor Dave Bull signed an emergency closure order because of "rapidly expanding resource damage."

Increased motorized use the past two years has widened and eroded the trail, and damaged streamside areas, officials said. "The trail had been open to motorcycles only, but the damage is being caused by ATVs and motorcycles," a news release said.

"I don't take closing a trail lightly," Bull said. "But the damage being done to this area is significant enough to warrant an emergency closure. We will begin an environmental review to determine if the trail closure will be permanent (or) if steps can be taken to minimize impacts from motorized use."



The Forest Service cited a combination of increased and illegal use. Officials who noticed ATV use on the "single-track" trail last fall placed signs there to explain the kind of use allowed. That didn't work, Mary Laws, a recreation specialist for the Forest Service at Darby, said Friday.

The upper section off Rye Creek No. 75 Road is too steep to sustain motorized use, officials said, and the lower portion of the nearly 11-mile trail passes through numerous wet areas that are becoming boggy and rutted.

Laws said officials also found that, at the top of the trail, someone had been moving a smaller rock between two boulders meant to restrict large vehicles, and evidence that someone raked over ATV tracks for some distance, presumably to prevent them from being found, she said.

Laws said officials have closed trails in the past, including one up Tin Cup drainage recently. But she couldn't recall a recent time when the agency had had to close a "system trail" because of resource damage.

"Because of the damage, we are looking at opportunities to go in and make a decision about what kind of use we want on that trail," Laws said.

Reporter Buddy Smith can be reached at 363-3300 or [email protected]
 
good, should have happened years ago. i moved out of montana in 96, and (especially those trails in bitterroot/selway)were being abused then. nothing like bringing out the last load of a WAY back elk kill on your back to meet some a-hole on an ATV in a place 5 miles from the closest place he can legally be. not even game retrieval, just "road" hunting. that was on the trail they just closed(sleeping child) in 1994.

sam
 
I couldnt agree with you more!!!!! One of my all time favorite hunting spots has been totally ruined by illegal atv-ers tearing up the horse trail. I tends to piss you off when you hit the trail head with your horse 3 hours before light and have some mongoloid on an atv pass you up 2 hours into it and spook your horse!!!!!! We have gotten several guys busted by the game cops for doing just that. A couple of years ago the game cops brought in flat bed trailer to the trail head and waited for those atv boys to come out. By the end of the day it was plum full of 4 wheelers. Explain that to your wife, how you got your 4-$8000 toy taken away because you couldnt obey the law. Oooops..
Eric
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Hehehe, a flatbed full of confiscated 4wheelers, now that would be something to see.

Hey Sam, where in wyoming do you live? Is it any better than over here in western montana?
 
I think 4 wheelers are a epidemic everywhere. They are useful, but shouldnt be used to get to the back country. I have always been told if your feet or your horses cant take you to the back country you have no business being back there. And I still believe it. Soon atv's will be made illegal just about everywhere besides main roads and trials. This will happen to many people abuse thier purpose.

later, MM
 
i'm in laramie, no, its not any better here as far as atv abuse. although in the area i hunt, i didn't see any breaking the law yet this year. i dont think its part of an improving trend, jsut that there wasn't anyone hunting the area this year. deer numbers are way down, and look to be getting worse. fawn crops are next to nothing. out of the hundred or so does i saw in a week of hunting, less than a dozen had fawn with them. probably a combination of the drought leaving the deer in tough shape for breading, and the big cat sign i'm seeing more and more of. how are things in western MT? completely californicated yet? i was up around bozeman a couple years back..wholy smokes they are building fast around belgrade. haven't been around the bitterroot country since 96, cant imagine what it looks like now. good luck this season. man, i really miss the later and longer season up there.. its opening day of elk season here, and its warm and dry..long range forecast looks like no snow to hunt elk in this year..sucks.

sam
 
Hey if you dont like hunting around atv's then go to a wilderness or primative area.
Have you ever looked at a trail after a pack train of horses and mules have been over it, or the weeds that grow next spring behind them, or a camp where the horses have ringed the trees and crap a foot deep?
There are abusers of all types. If everyone used common sense and would tread lightly we wouldn't have this problem
If you still think hunting from foot or hoarse is the only way then leave your truck at home.And you never drive off the pavement.
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-16-03 AT 05:07AM (MST)[p]Have you guys seen the ad for the Polaris Ranger? It shows a couple of dudes driving this Ranger cross country with no roads in sight. This thing is a little bit smaller than a Jeep. What kind of damage do you think those can do. The year before last I was hunting and locked gated area for elk. I was about 6 miles in when a couple of douchebags in one of these off road utility vehicles comes roaring through. I was sitting down in the middle of the logging road emptying some brush debris out of my boots when they saw me. I guess that they didnt know at first what I was because they stopped and looked at me for a while. Probably thought that I was a bear(and they would be right Heehee). I stood up, picked up my bow and started walking toward them, they did a big ol' brody and tore the f- out of there. I later found where they had come in through. They had cut a path through the timber about 50 yds away from the gate to get around it. I felt like launching an arrow into one of their tires! Those gates are locked for a reason! Only open to foot traffic. Hell, it just pisses me off when you are that far in and some lazy d!ck head decides to thumb his nose at the law and do what he damn well pleases. To me it is in the same category as poaching!
Ok, enough ranting and raving... Haahaaaaa...
Eric

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LAST EDITED ON Oct-16-03 AT 05:37AM (MST)[p]>Hey if you dont like hunting
>around atv's then go to
>a wilderness or primative area.
>
> Have you ever looked at
>a trail after a pack
>train of horses and mules
>have been over it, or
>the weeds that grow next
>spring behind them, or a
>camp where the horses have
>ringed the trees and crap
>a foot deep?
> There are abusers of all
>types. If everyone used common
>sense and would tread lightly
>we wouldn't have this problem
>
> If you still think hunting
>from foot or hoarse is
>the only way then leave
>your truck at home.And you
>never drive off the pavement.
>


any areas closed to motor vehicles should be enough to get away from them. but its not, and thats the problem. wilderness boundaries aren't always stopping them either. there is one area i hunt that is wilderness, and is one of the worst areas for atv abuse.

and as for the smart ass comment at the end, i will never complain about atvs on legal roads. ride them around all day if you want(and i kinda suspect thats what you do), but keep them in places where they are allowed, and ride safely.

sam
 
The Forest Service has a lot of guts to say a word. "Leave No Trace" my ass.

Those Forest service people are the worst abusers. My buddy let the forest service into his private property a couple of years ago to fight a fire on the other side of the mountain. By using his property they could get right up on top of the fire on the uphill side.

Wasn't threatening his place he just did it as a favor to them because they came and asked. They DESTROYED his place.

The Forest service did more damage to his property than 20 years of riding horses and ATV's in there has come close to doing. He was so furious when he saw what they did he tried to punch out the one supervisor up there. They had to pull him off the guy. It was 3 years ago or so and if he ran into this Forest service guy tomorrow, I can tell you it would be an instant beating.

The Forest service can pucker up and smooch my butt. They are the worst offenders and whatever they say, I do the opposite.

If they close a road to ATV's, I hope I'm the first one to ride up it. If they close a trail to horses I'll ride it everyday if I can. Screw them!!

I have another Forest Service story that my neighbor experienced in the Uintah National forest... but it's so laughable and almost unbelievable that I won't even post it.

Do whatever you think you can do without being caught. And if you are caught, just leave them in shallow graves. Coyotes have to eat too. :)
 

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