Mr. Eelgrass

feddoc · May 30, 2023

Did you ever work one of these??

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eelgrass · May 30, 2023

That's a sash gang saw. That was before my time. There was a sawmill in Weaverville that had one and I saw it run but had no experience with it. It ran a lot faster than the one in the video.

eelgrass · May 31, 2023

This is more like the one I saw.

eelgrass · May 31, 2023

See how much faster the modern day gang edgers is. It's a bank of circle saws, all shiftable. We cut 2,200 logs per shift on average. Do you know how much lumber production is enough? Always just a little more.

Homer · May 31, 2023

well sure yours was faster eel....it was also causing global climate change.......feddoc's is clean and responsible power.....

elkassassin · May 31, 2023

Look Like Good Machines Not To Get your Hands In!

elkassassin · May 31, 2023

Does That THUMPIN Bastard Have DURAMAX Stamped On It?

eelgrass said:
This is more like the one I saw.

eelgrass · May 31, 2023

elkassassin said:
Does That THUMPIN Bastard Have DURAMAX Stamped On It?

It was pretty dependable, so I doubt it.

Just kidding.

eelgrass · May 31, 2023

elkassassin said:
Does That THUMPIN Bastard Have DURAMAX Stamped On It?

Every piece of machinery at our mill was made on site in the machine shop. The debarker, the head rig, all the resaws, edgers and trim saws. There was nothing store bought. All the saws were just blank saw plate and we did the rest.

feddoc · May 31, 2023

elkassassin said:
Look Like Good Machines Not To Get your Hands In!

I watched a kid, Marine, fresh fron Vietnam, poke his hand into a pellet grinder...it made chicken sized pellets out of cow cakes. I was telling him he needs to use a broom handle when the machine un-jammed. It too three fingers of his right hand off at the palm.

BRUIN4L · Jun 1, 2023

Palco used to have that type of saw in their Scotia mill. Believe it was steam powered and moved much faster than that one in the video.

eelgrass · Jun 2, 2023

BRUIN4L said:
Palco used to have that type of saw in their Scotia mill. Believe it was steam powered and moved much faster than that one in the video.

Did you ever see their hydraulic debarker? That was some high water pressure.

BRUIN4L · Jun 2, 2023

Yes I did. I was in the lumber business and got to go on a good mill tour there. I would have loved to had a chance to run that thing myself!

eelgrass · Jun 2, 2023

My dad was a railroad man and they used to haul logs into Palco's pond from Carlota. He would sneak me on the train once in a while when I was a kid. It was fun to watch the logs dump into the pond. A lot of beautiful lumber came from that mill.

BRUIN4L · Jun 2, 2023

eelgrass said:
My dad was a railroad man and they used to haul logs into Palco's pond from Carlota. He would sneak me on the train once in a while when I was a kid. It was fun to watch the logs dump into the pond. A lot of beautiful lumber came from that mill.

They had beautiful fir and redwood.

Homer · Jun 2, 2023

When I was about 12 I toured a sawmill in Scotia......I still remember it well

eelgrass · Jun 3, 2023

I worked with an old saw filer at our mill who was a filer at Palco back in the day. He taught me a lot about saw filing. He said that underneath that mill is a stash of big old growth redwood burl slabs that someone hid at some point. It was still there when he left. After it was put there, they added onto the mill and there was no way to get it out.

eelgrass · Jun 3, 2023

Homer said:
When I was about 12 I toured a sawmill in Scotia......I still remember it well

There's only been one mill at Scotia, so it had to be Pacific Lumber Company. They owned the town and built houses for their employees to live in. My wife's cousin worked there and lived in one of the houses for many years.

eelgrass · Jun 3, 2023

I remember when this accident happened at Pacific Lumber Co. It changed the way things were done throughout the industry.

3 Workers Killed When Caught in Lumber Debarking Machine

Three lumber workers were killed when they were caught inside a large debarking machine, apparently while trying to unjam it, authorities said Wednesday.

www.latimes.com

Skidmore · Jun 3, 2023

Horrible

Skidmore · Jun 3, 2023

What happened to the 4th person ?

eelgrass · Jun 3, 2023

Skidmore said:
What happened to the 4th person ?

I didn't hear about a 4th person.

Skidmore · Jun 3, 2023

eel did they ever find out what happened? Did they use a lockout ? , I’m just saying maybe another worker turned it back on

Skidmore · Jun 3, 2023

I read the report

eelgrass · Jun 3, 2023

Skidmore, there was confusion in the beginning but evidently they just neglected to lock out.

You're supposed to lock out with your own unique lock and take the key with you now. That way no one can unlock it but you. Our mill has a zero tolerance policy with that. Immediate termination for any violation.

Edit: in the case of more than one person working on a machine each one has to lock out. You can't depend on others lock.

Skidmore · Jun 3, 2023

I remember working on a rock crusher or a broken belt at the time people just put the lock on with no lock , Crazy

feddoc · Jun 3, 2023

eelgrass said:
WORDS.... That was before my time. MORE WORDS.

Unpossible.

Homer · Jun 3, 2023

I bet it was ugly......

elkassassin · Jun 3, 2023

I Don't know How Many Of You Know What a BALL MILL Is?

But several Years Ago Some Guys Had Things Shut Down For Maintenance In a Nevada Gold Mine!

A Guy/Guys Had Been Working Inside The Ball Mill & One Guy was Still Inside The Ball Mill When Somebody Fired It Up!

Not Good!

They're Still Keeping It Quiet Somehow!

I Can't Imagine MSHAW Not Saying More Than They Have?

eelgrass · Jun 3, 2023

Our sawmill has a piece of machinery they call the PET, (precision end trim). Like everything else it was made in house. A table feeds one board at a time through a pair of cut off saws. The outboard saw is movable in and out and is adjusted by a very fine jack screw attached to a motor. The whole assembly came from a surplus WWII torpedo tube. You can adjust it to within 1/32" and it will stay on size all day. The trim ends fall down onto a conveyor belt and end up in a chipper.

I wasn't in need of a lockout because my job never called for me to do anything that required one.

I was walking by it one morning and I noticed the conveyor belt was plugged up. I saw that the belt was not moving but I didn't notice the drum that the belt rides on was still running. I assumed the operator had shut it off.

Being the loyal employee that I was

I went over and started unplugging the belt. I grabbed a piece that freed everything up and the belt took off and pinched a board with my hand on it up against a steel cross member. I yelled to the operator and he shut the belt off...too late. I could tell it was bad. I took my glove off and my hand came out, but my little finger stayed in the glove. It could have been a lot worse, but hurt like hell at the time.

feddoc · Jun 3, 2023

elkassassin said:
I Don't know How Many Of You Know What a BALL MILL Is?

But several Years Ago Some Guys Had Things Shut Down For Maintenance In a Nevada Gold Mine!

A Guy/Guys Had Been Working Inside The Ball Mill & One Guy was Still Inside The Ball Mill When Somebody Fired It Up!

Not Good!

They're Still Keeping It Quiet Somehow!

I Can't Imagine MSHAW Not Saying More Than They Have?

I have a small one.

feddoc · Jun 3, 2023

eelgrass said:
Our sawmill has a piece of machinery they call the PET, (precision end trim). Like everything else it was made in house. A table feeds one board at a time through a pair of cut off saws. The outboard saw is movable in and out and is adjusted by a very fine jack screw attached to a motor. The whole assembly came from a surplus WWII torpedo tube. You can adjust it to within 1/32" and it will stay on size all day. The trim ends fall down onto a conveyor belt and end up in a chipper.

I wasn't in need of a lockout because my job never called for me to do anything that required one.

I was walking by it one morning and I noticed the conveyor belt was plugged up. I saw that the belt was not moving but I didn't notice the drum that the belt rides on was still running. I assumed the operator had shut it off.

Being the loyal employee that I was I went over and started unplugging the belt. I grabbed a piece that freed everything up and the belt took off and pinched a board with my hand on it up against a steel cross member. I yelled to the operator and he shut the belt off...too late. I could tell it was bad. I took my glove off and my hand came out, but my little finger stayed in the glove. It could have been a lot worse, but hurt like hell at the time.

Necklace?

eelgrass · Jun 3, 2023

feddoc said:
Necklace?

No, the company didn't give me a necklace. They gave me a paper to sign admitting what a f*** up I was.

Alwayshunting · Jun 7, 2023

elkassassin said:
I Don't know How Many Of You Know What a BALL MILL Is?

But several Years Ago Some Guys Had Things Shut Down For Maintenance In a Nevada Gold Mine!

A Guy/Guys Had Been Working Inside The Ball Mill & One Guy was Still Inside The Ball Mill When Somebody Fired It Up!

Not Good!

They're Still Keeping It Quiet Somehow!

I Can't Imagine MSHAW Not Saying More Than They Have?

Keeping a fatality quiet at a mine site? ? That’s about like saying the gals at the beauty parlor didn’t talk about who’s banging the pool boy. Word travels immediately about such things. Especially in our modern social media world.

There is triple redundancy for entering a confined space with spotters required, LOTO requirements and many permits and authorizations required. Would be very difficult to make this happen. Not that it couldn’t… but if it had, a simple search on mshas website would bring it up in more detail than most care to see. Just sayin…

Alwayshunting · Jun 7, 2023

elkassassin said:
I Don't know How Many Of You Know What a BALL MILL Is?

But several Years Ago Some Guys Had Things Shut Down For Maintenance In a Nevada Gold Mine!

A Guy/Guys Had Been Working Inside The Ball Mill & One Guy was Still Inside The Ball Mill When Somebody Fired It Up!

Not Good!

They're Still Keeping It Quiet Somehow!

I Can't Imagine MSHAW Not Saying More Than They Have?

Keeping a fatality quiet at a mine site? ? That’s about like saying the gals at the beauty parlor didn’t talk about who’s banging the pool boy. Word travels immediately about such things. Especially in our modern social media world.

There is triple redundancy for entering a confined space with spotters required, LOTO requirements and many permits and authorizations required. Would be very difficult to make this happen. Not that it couldn’t… but if it had, a simple search on mshas website would bring it up in more detail than most care to see. Just sayin…

2lumpy · Jul 18, 2023

eelgrass said:
No, the company didn't give me a necklace. They gave me a paper to sign admitting what a f*** up I was.

I have a terribly morbid sense of humor…….. I just spewed Diet Coke on the breakfast table.

Don’t ya just hate it when they make you sign for the obvious. Was your hand still dripping when they handed you the pen eel?

eelgrass · Jul 18, 2023

2lumpy said:
I have a terribly morbid sense of humor…….. I just spewed Diet Coke on the breakfast table.

Don’t ya just hate it when they make you sign for the obvious. Was your hand still dripping when they handed you the pen eel?

No, they made me stew on it and wait a couple weeks so the safety committee could discuss it.

They sold work gloves in the foreman's office and every time I went in there to buy a pair, I told them I should get a 10% discount because I only have 9 fingers. Then I took my pocketknife out and cut off the little finger of the left hand glove.