New Muzzy

tracker12

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Looking for a new long range Muzzy to replace my TC Encore. Not looking to spend over $1000 so no Gunwerks for me. should I be looking for Remington.
 

diablo

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Depends on what you mean by long range. 400 yards? Lots of rifles will shoot that far with the right scope and bullets.
 

tracker12

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Did some range work today with some PB's that I was able to scrounge up. Results were so so. Going to continue to work with it while looking for a gun.
 

txhunter58

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If power belts won’t shoot, you were probably out of luck. Those guns are designed to shoot Sabots, and the power belt is the closest thing to a sabot in a conical bullet. Another option is get a gun Smith to cut off the QLA And re-crown it. It would probably shoot conical’s OK after that. That’s what I did to my omega
 

tracker12

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I have been recommended a couple bullets and was told to use wool wads behind them. Going to give them a try and see where it goes.
 

txhunter58

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Any flat based bullets probably won’t work even with a wad. Ones with a bell on the back have a chance to work
 

Elkhunter96

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I put a Bergara barrel on my TC Encore and have no problem getting 350 yards. If I were to do it again, I would get a custom 45 cal barrel with a brake and shoot a quality muzzy bullet like a Parker
 

deadibob

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I've tried wool wads in the past and they always hurt my accuracy. I gave up before doing lots of testing with them.
 

whiteantlertip

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I would not want to shoot a elk with anything less than 50 cal. Killed several with my old Hawken 54 cal. They didn't go 30 yds each.
 

whiteantlertip

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I also took elk with my 50 cal..TC and my 54 cal. Renagade years ago. But yes 45 cal. is to small for elk , it may kill but better chance to only wound such a great animal and not legal in most areas for elk
 

tracker12

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Explaing to me why a 300 grain 45 caliber is not as effective as a 50 cal 300 grain bullet pushed at the same velocity. Take a 460gr 45 and a 460gr 50. The 45 will have a far better sectional density and more than likely a better BC. We are not shooting yesterdays bullets. Now this is will non sabot bullets.
 

buckhorn

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Explaing to me why a 300 grain 45 caliber is not as effective as a 50 cal 300 grain bullet pushed at the same velocity. Take a 460gr 45 and a 460gr 50. The 45 will have a far better sectional density and more than likely a better BC. We are not shooting yesterdays bullets. Now this is will non sabot bullets.
I agree with you on that but I was just mentioning that because I’ve read the regulations most states require 50 caliber minimum to hunt elk legally.
 

diablo

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Actually.....I believe most states don’t require a .50 min for elk. Nevada, Arizona, Utah, Wyoming and Montana to name a few.
 

deadibob

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Bullet integrity/choice is a much bigger factor in the ability to kill elk with a muzzy than the difference between .45 and .50 diameter bullets. The .45-70 is considered an elk slayer yet modern .45 caliber muzzleloaders meet and in some cases far exceed .45-70 velocities, even 2nd tier pressure loads designed for Marlins and other stout lever actions.
 

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