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Is that my Stinky from NM? If so love ya my brother I hope all is well with you and yours
My Savages have always been very impressive to me.
It's been many years now, maybe at least 26, since I had the conversation with Craig Boddington about accurate rifles other than the custom builds. At THAT TIME, he told me he considered the Savage 110 as the best out of the box.
My C.A. Ridgeline .300 win must have been built on a Friday 1 hour before quitting time. So frustrated and disappointed in its accuracy. It also showed up with a bad ejector and i had to wait for parts. Took it to my local gunsmith to repair it as I didn’t have time to send it back to the factory. Have 250 shots through it in multiple loads. No load recipes have been good enough to settle for so far.Depends on what you consider a factory rifle...
I’ll call it over the counter rifles
It’s a lot like trucks... some can be absolute gems or others can be turds. Just depends if they are built on early in the week or on Friday.
I would of sent it back to Christensen by now. From what I’ve seen about 1 out of every 3 are duds. The first thing I do with them is run premium factory ammo (Hornady precision hunter or match) for barrel break in pre load development. If they won’t achieve sub MOA with either one of those once the barrel has been broken in I don’t even mess with them. For example Ive been setting up two different 6.5prcs for friends. One is a CA ridgeline and the other is a savage 110 ultra light (proof barrel) The CA was a complete dud. Hasn’t shot anything close to what I would call acceptable accuracy with factory ammo or hand loads. It is currently being sent back. Where as the savage, rounds 5 through 10 out of it were one ragged hole with the Hornady match ammo with the 147eldm.My C.A. Ridgeline .300 win must have been built on a Friday 1 hour before quitting time. So frustrated and disappointed in its accuracy. It also showed up with a bad ejector and i had to wait for parts. Took it to my local gunsmith to repair it as I didn’t have time to send it back to the factory. Have 250 shots through it in multiple loads. No load recipes have been good enough to settle for so far.
You fire your gun out of your truck window?Got me a BSA rifle chambered in .303 Brit. Bought it from an old ad in the back of a National Rifleman magazine in the 80s for $110. I can poke it out the truck window and shoot wire off posts at 500 yards with my dial up open sights.
Most definitely a steal for a sub 1500 dollar rifle. Definitely one of my favorites as far as factory rifles goI got a new savage 110 ultralight this last year. It’s a dream to carry in the mountains and shoots extremely well. Plus a proof carbon barrel right in your price range. I am sold on mine
The problem is is that you should have never had to send them back in the first place.I bought a CA a couple years ago that wasn’t able to shoot their guaranteed sub moa. I contacted them and sent it back. They tested it found it was not to their satisfaction so they spun a new barrel on it and tested it again and sent their test target back with it. Customer service was excellent I thought and I’m happy with how the gun shoots now.
I’ve had several Christensen rifles over the years and all of them have shot very well. Purchased 2 more this year and both are easily under 1/2 MOA. Not sure why they have some lemons, but I wouldn’t hesitate to buy another. Here’s pictures of groups from this years rifles.The problem is is that you should have never had to send them back in the first place.
I built a rifle with one of there barrels. It took a lot to get it to shoot but it finally did. I’m happy with the rifle for what it is but I will never buy one of their products again. And frankly turned me off to the carbon fiber thing. I’m back to steelThe problem is is that you should have never had to send them back in the first place.
I’ve got a Thompson Center Venture with cheaper Nikon scope. It groups 110 grain Sierras at a 1/4 inch and 100 yards and is hammer out to 500 yards. It’s my coyote/truck gun / somebody needs a gun and it’s accounted for a pile is muleys the past 8 years. It just flat shoots, whether is was 1200.00 or 450.00.Call me crazy but I have bought 2 one for myself and one for my son T/C compass in 6.5 creedmore threw on vortex scopes trigger spring kit and Boyd stock shooting Hornady 143gr eldx . I also shoot a tikka in 300wsm and love it. Had a Browning hell’s canyon speed in 26 Mosley and hated it could not get it to shoot and I reload tried everything and ended up selling it. View attachment 9146
Best bang for the buckI have a few expensive Remington 700 builds, but I needed a light weight rifle that could really take some abuse on and off a snowmobile hunting wolves through the winter, cheap and accurate. I settled for the Rugar American Predator the 6.5 creedmoor with the Hornady 143 ELDX, I really hate saying it for a Man-Bun Gun this little plastic piece of crap out shoots all my rifles. You should go buy one if you want your bullet holes all touching, all for whooping 425.00
Well, if it helps, I'll repeat my earlier reply...I can't believe Savage is not mentioned more. I've had all kinds of rifles and the new Savage ultralight 6.5 PRC is the most accurate factory rifle I've ever seen! I have a few friends that either have the PRC or Creedmore and every one is a tack driver. Mine shoots the factory 143ELDX under 1\2 inch and I've shot Cutting Edge handloads into 3 shot one hole groups at both 100 and 200 yds.!
Some time back in 2020 sniper14 bought him a rifle in 6.5 creedmoor and mounted a meopta scope on it.
For all my reading of the recommendations and comments, I never could locate where he said which rifle he purchased. Now that I’ve invested an hour reading the suggestions Im curious to know what he went with, which make and model of cartridge he likes in it and what MOA it shoots.
Asking for a friend.
And BobCat, I only scorched the paint on one truck hood.......... but it was worth it...... I’m sure. I can tell you this, blackpower do leave a large black calling card. It don’t buff out.
When the time is right give us an update on the vanguard. What model is it etc?A lot of guys like Tikka’s however I just didn’t like the feel. I highly recommend Bergara. I have an HMR Pro which is more of a target and Varmint rifle for me though and shoots 1/4”-3/8” consistently with factory ammo an sub 1/4” with handloads. Best group I’ve shot with that rifle is .110”. Just bought a Weatherby Vanguatd though and have just started load development. So far I like what I’m seeing.
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It’s the First Lite Cipher edition and in 6.5 PRC. I was a little concerned after getting this rifle as I’ve read on several other forums that guys are having problems with 6.5 and 300 PRC’s that reload once their brass gets 3 or 4 firings due to the chambers being too tight. There is a fix for this though so not the end of the world. After inspection of my chamber I found that mine was on the larger size and will not need to be opened up. This is at the .200” line .432” dimension. Looks like Weatherby may have been on top of this issue as I heard that all (obviously not though) factory rifles will have this problem, and even some customs unless the gunsmith spec’s out a custom reamer. Anyway, at this point I’m very happy with this rifle. Still have to work up a good charge weight and will wait until it gets a little warmer out. Currently I’m shooting 147 ELDMs With Reloder 26 and 210’s. Testing seating depth I loaded a middle of the road charge of 54.7gr. While looking for pressure starting at 55.0 gr. I did see what looked like a possible velocity node between 55.0 and 55.6 gr. Loaded up to 56.2 gr. and didn’t see pressure signs yet. Again, I’ll do more testing when it warms up as it was 14 degrees when I was shooting.When the time is right give us an update on the vanguard. What model is it etc?