Poll: Would you support banning baiting (except for bear) in Utah?

[schoolhousegrizz]

Well somebody on the trail cam ban brought up that he was surprised everybody wanted to ban trail cams but not baiting. I am willing to bet that more people would even be willing to ban baiting than trail cams. I am for banning trail cams during certain times of the year and baiting all together. What say you?

 

[Slightlysober]

I would also support banning of baiting bears.

 

[coloradoman]

I would also support banning of baiting bears.

Not me that’s why we are over ran with bears in Colorado

 

[Slightlysober]

Not me that’s why we are over ran with bears in Colorado

Bears deserve more respect than shooting them over donuts.

 

[yoteduster]

I support banning bait for deer and elk as far as bears are concerned who cares they are just another predator that needs dealt with

 

[Slightlysober]

I support banning bait for deer and elk as far as bears are concerned who cares they are just another predator that needs dealt with

I have respect for all of gods creatures, except Utahns. But hey I’m a work in progress.

 

[middlefork]

Has anyone looked at the actual bill for "banning trail cams"?

There are actually 3 parts to it.
1. Trail Cams
2. Baiting
3. Laws regarding WMA's

It remains to be seen what actually passes.

 

[GLEDEASY]

Define baiting? I know plenty of deer/elk getting killed in or around alfalfa

 

[elkassassin]

So?

Down on the Campfire You Don't Believe in God?

Up Here in this Forum They Are 'Gods Creatures'?

Somebody's got some SPLAININ to do!

I have respect for all of gods creatures, except Utahns. But hey I’m a work in progress.

 

[MuleyKilla]

I have respect for all of gods creatures, except Utahns. But hey I’m a work in progress.

“There are no gods” -Slightlysober, in Christian hunters thread 02/21/21

 

[Dang big]

I would also support banning of baiting bears.

 

[Founder]

With the law they’re working on, would mineral blocks or salt blocks be baiting or???

 

[Slightlysober]

So?

Down on the Campfire You Don't Believe in God?

Up Here in this Forum They Are 'Gods Creatures'?

Somebody's got some SPLAININ to do!

 

[Slightlysober]

“There are no gods” -Slightlysober, in Christian hunters thread 02/21/21

My humor is lost on you.

 

[ridgetops]

Depends on the definition of baiting.

 

[MuleyKilla]

My humor is lost on you.

I’m lost

 

[elkassassin]

They Claim they're Worried about CWD!

They Claim when Deer Lick/Chew on the Same Item the Deer's Saliva is Swapped Back & Forth Hence Spreading the Disease!

Now it's OK if the Deer Lick & Chew on the Same Russian Olive Tree or other Eats as long as it Happens naturally!

So Yes!

Mineral Licks & Salt Blocks are Considered Baiting!

And If Baiting is Banned, Hunters Won't Be Able to Pack Their CHUM in to the High Country/Low Country anymore!

With the law they’re working on, would mineral blocks or salt blocks be baiting or???

 

[Founder]

They Claim they're Worried about CWD!

They Claim when Deer Lick/Chew on the Same Item the Deer's Saliva is Swapped Back & Forth Hence Spreading the Disease!

Now it's OK if the Deer Lick & Chew on the Same Russian Olive Tree or other Eats as long as it Happens naturally!

So Yes!

Your Mineral Licks & Salt Blocks are Considered Baiting!

And If Baiting is Banned, You Won't Be Able to Pack Your CHUM in to the High Country anymore!

“Anymore?” You talking to me about packing stuff into the high country?

 

[elkassassin]

LMAO!

OK!

I Edited My Post a Little!

I Wasn't Trying To Single anybody Out!

I Think The Law Would Apply To Everybody if It Passes!

“Anymore?” You talking to me about packing stuff into the high country?

 

[Founder]

I’ll have to take a look at what they’re pushing for.

 

[elkassassin]

I Can Tell You This!

Me & PUNK Have Seen Piles of Apples!

Anywhere from Fresh enough to Eat!

To Mush Apple Cider!

Them Boys on the South End of the State are Supporting Some Apple Growers!

 

[elkassassin]

But Notice I Said 'APPLY'!

Who's gonna 'Enforce'?

If it Passes?

And even if they Caught somebody with 20 lbs of Apples in their Pack!

How You Gonna give them a Ticket?

That'd be throwed out of Court before the Hearing Started!

 

[DeerHunter53]

They Claim they're Worried about CWD!

They Claim when Deer Lick/Chew on the Same Item the Deer's Saliva is Swapped Back & Forth Hence Spreading the Disease!

Now it's OK if the Deer Lick & Chew on the Same Russian Olive Tree or other Eats as long as it Happens naturally!

So Yes!

Mineral Licks & Salt Blocks are Considered Baiting!

And If Baiting is Banned, Hunters Won't Be Able to Pack Their CHUM in to the High Country/Low Country anymore!

But would it be called baiting if a Rancher did it for his cattle? to leave salt blocks in the mountains as they have done all along

 

[HuckleberryHound]

Not me that’s why we are over ran with bears in Colorado

Baiting bears was outlawed in my state 25 years ago. But thats not why we are over run with bears. We are over run with bears because not enough people will get off their ass and hunt them. Most deer hunters wont even buy a tag to be able to take one incidentally. Bears are very killable without bait. Its a lack of giving a **** by hunters thats the cause, not the lack of ability to bait.

 

[Muleman1]

Bears deserve more respect than shooting them over donuts.

Bears deserve more respect than shooting them over donuts.

So what chasing them with dogs is respectful ? Have you ever hunted bears it’s a lot tougher than u think it’s not like you put out doughnuts and the all magically appear!

 

[elkassassin]

I've said for Years!

Ranchers Haven't Had To set much out for years with all the Goodies TARDS Pack to the Mountains!

But would it be called baiting if a Rancher did it for his cattle? to leave salt blocks in the mountains as they have done all along

 

[Slightlysober]

So what chasing them with dogs is respectful ? Have you ever hunted bears it’s a lot tougher than u think it’s not like you put out doughnuts and the all magically appear!

Yes I’ve hunted black bears, grizzlies and brown bears. I’d say that while my experience is limited, it’s probably more than what you have. Bears just don’t do it for me. But that doesn’t mean I don’t respect them as much as other animals.

What’s so hard about baiting bears? You take bait and put it out there. Then you sit and wait. That’s it. Whether they come in or not is most likely based off location of bait and if the wind is right. But those two reasons cannot be used to justify baiting.

Get out there and hunt bears. You’ll have more respect for them.

And as far as chasing animals with dogs my opinion is it’s wrong. It’s a stressful situation for the animal by man for the purpose of sport. No thanks.

 

[Vanilla]

I’ll have to take a look at what they’re pushing for.

All should do this Founder. This seems like a fantastic idea for everyone who is sharing opinions across the various threads on this topic that are sharing opinions.

It’s definitely interesting how many people have an opinion on this proposed law that have never actually read what it says. This forum has a ton of people that fit that description.

Ignorance truly is bliss, I guess.

 

[Muleman1]

Yes I’ve hunted black bears, grizzlies and brown bears. I’d say that while my experience is limited, it’s probably more than what you have. Bears just don’t do it for me. But that doesn’t mean I don’t respect them as much as other animals.

What’s so hard about baiting bears? You take bait and put it out there. Then you sit and wait. That’s it. Whether they come in or not is most likely based off location of bait and if the wind is right. But those two reasons cannot be used to justify baiting.

Get out there and hunt bears. You’ll have more respect for them.

And as far as chasing animals with dogs my opinion is it’s wrong. It’s a stressful situation for the animal by man for the purpose of sport. No thanks.

I guarantee I’ve hunted bears a lot more than you have

 

[Deerlove]

I would also support banning of baiting bears.

sure if tags were otc.

 

[Slightlysober]

I guarantee I’ve hunted bears a lot more than you have

Are you counting the times you’ve baited them? If so that’s not hunting.

what’s your thoughts on using dogs for hunting pronghorn elk and deer?

 

[Gator]

So hunting in a apple Orchard would that be illegal.
That kind like a hay field isn't.

 

[Slightlysober]

So hunting in a apple Orchard would that be illegal.
That kind like a hay field isn't.

Meh. When you intentionally lay out food for what you are hunting that’s baiting. FFS it’s that simple. Why try to read so deep in everything. If that’s the case hunting elk on the mountain is baiting because that’s where their food is

 

[Muleman1]

Are you counting the times you’ve baited them? If so that’s not hunting.

what’s your thoughts on using dogs for hunting pronghorn elk and deer?

I don’t use dogs bait and spot and stalk

 

[Gator]

I bet if you let all those apples fall and not pick them and have a bunch hunters pay to hunt that orchard, GW would have a different view on if it's baiting or just a farmer not picking his apples.

 

[Hawkeye]

Ban all baiting!

 

[Slightlysober]

I bet if you let all those apples fall and not pick them and have a bunch hunters pay to hunt that orchard, GW would have a different view on if it's baiting or just a farmer not picking his apples.

You’d lose that bet

 

[elkassassin]

JUDAS ss!

You're Just like Ocho saying:Ban the Black Guns!

Then You Say:

Ban The Hunting of Bears Using Dogs!

You'd Best Think That One Over Just a little bit More!

You Don't Realize this would Be a Foot in the Door do You?

Look at it kinda like this Here:

They Day You Let Hunting with Dogs be Taken away!

Just Give any of your Other Hunting up as Well!

ARE YOU REALLY THAT GAWD-DAMNED BLIND?

Are you counting the times you’ve baited them? If so that’s not hunting.

what’s your thoughts on using dogs for hunting pronghorn elk and deer?

 

[elkassassin]

JUDAS Hawkeye!

You're Banning Everything!

You Must of Read HELL-RIGHT?

Ban all baiting!

 

[Slightlysober]

JUDAS ss!

You're Just like Ocho saying:Ban the Black Guns!

Then You Say:

Ban The Hunting of Bears Using Dogs!

You'd Best Think That One Over Just a little bit More!

You Don't Realize this would Be a Foot in the Door do You?

Look at it kinda like this Here:

They Day You Let Hunting with Dogs be Taken away!

Just Give any of your Other Hunting up as Well!

ARE YOU REALLY THAT GAWD-DAMNED BLIND?

Spoiler alert: you have high blood pressure

 

[roadrunner]

But would it be called baiting if a Rancher did it for his cattle? to leave salt blocks in the mountains as they have done all along

Depends on the state, or governing agency, since it's not a natural source like a spring or wallow is.

 

[elkassassin]

That'd be an Understatement!

Spoiler alert: you have high blood pressure

 

[HuckleberryHound]

I think we should ban banning stuff. Enough **** has been banned already, lets leave well enough alone.

 

[Tikka]

I support the banning of SS...

 

[Slightlysober]

I support the banning of SS...

Not taking the bait. Ban baiting!!!

 

[Bluehair]

I’m trying to decide if this is a fishing thread. I was going to ask whether there is a lead sinker shortage.

 

[Tikka]

I think we should ban banning stuff. Enough **** has been banned already, lets leave well enough alone.

 

[elkassassin]

You Beat Me to it Tikka!

 

[Tikka]

You Beat Me to it Tikka!

A guy's got to be quick on the trigger to beat ole Bess...

 

[elkassassin]

I Might Have to Re-Write that Song in the MM form!

A guy's got to be quick on the trigger to ole Bess...

 

[Gator]

You’d lose that bet

Really I have already had a GW tell me that I couldn't sit on a county road and look at deer on a CWMU with bino's and that if I Didn't move he would get me a ticket for interfering with a hunt.
Now when his BOSS got involved it turned out that I really didn't do anything wrong to be on the county road that I can sit and look at deer on that land and he would have a talk with said officer.
SO yea I do believe That this GW would be happy to hand out a ticket for a apple tree being hunted over by someone that wasn't the owner of the land that had the tree on it.

 

[JumpinJ]

I'd support banning the Bud light drinkers from tossing their empties out the window

 

[BrowningRage]

sure if tags were otc.

I totally agree I would be on board with banning baiting of even bears if we sell tags for an additional $5 or even $10 tacked onto other tags. If that had been available on a deer hunt I was on back in 2016, I would have bagged me a black bear on three different days of my hunt. Even OTC tags have limits and quotas around the west, Utah could do that easily enough.

 

[jdmaxwell]

Ban it all