RBG

[264mag]

? ^^^^ This is what happens when you "learn" from far-right propaganda and Facebook memes. You're doomed to a life of being a Low Information Voter.

Pretty sure Nixon's two rejected nominees, G. Harrold Carswell and Clement Haynsworth, the first rejected nominees since 1930, would disagree. I bet you've never even heard of them because you only watch Tucker and Hannity. ?

As John Kelly said, "if you get your news from Fox News, you're not an informed citizen."

Have another Swig Grizz

 

[notdonhunting]

It kind of started with Nixon in 1969 but went away as his next three nominees were confirmed with overwhelming majorities as well as a 98-0 vote on Gerald Ford's lone nominee.

Scalia, O'Conner, and Stevens were in the interim and each were approved without a single Nay vote even though they were nominated by Republicans. It then got worse with Robert Bork under Reagan (I would guess most scholars would put Bork as the impetus of current contention). Kennedy was approved after Bork's rejection, also without a single Nay votes so it kind of reset the clock.

Souter, Ginsberg, and Breyer were largely confirmed with only a hiccup on Clarence Thomas, though he did get the needed majority. It's been pretty ugly since the Clinton years.

It really started to get bad when Republicans started to impose a Litmus Test on Roe v. Wade. Prior to that, Republicans had nominated Justices like Souter and Stevens due to overall qualifications and without a lone deciding judicial philosophy that was either qualifying or disqualifying.

You're seeing the Abortion Litmus Test again today as Sen. Hawley from Missouri said this recently, “I'm going to start by asking the question that I articulated before the Senate, which is, does this nominee — has this nominee recognized that Roe vs. Wade was wrongly decided in 1973? If they can't beat the test, it doesn't get further than that, I'm gonna vote no."

Sen. Braun from Indiana said, "I would love if that nominee would say that they're going to look at right to life as an issue, overturning Roe versus Wade, I think is something that any of us believe in the sanctity of life, and that is an important issue and again that's very important in Indiana."

Lagoa already said Roe is "binding precedent" which should make her a "Nay" from Hawley if he honors his word. That alone, with Murkowski and Collins puts Pence as the 50-50 tie-breaker. But few of expect Hawley to be a man of his word, so I doubt it will come up.

McLaughlin wrote in the National Review that 29 times there has been an open Supreme Court vacancy in a presidential election year, or in a lame-duck session before the next presidential inauguration.

“The president made a nomination in all twenty-nine cases,” he wrote. McLaughlin added that “19 times between 1796 and 1968, presidents have sought to fill a Supreme Court vacancy in a presidential-election year while their party controlled the Senate. Ten of those nominations came before the election; nine of the 10 were successful.”

By contrast, when the president and Senate were from opposite parties, there have been 10 vacancies resulting in a presidential election-year or post-election nomination. In six of the 10 cases, the president made a nomination before Election Day, but only one of those was confirmed by the Senate controlled by the opposite party. That was President Grover Cleveland’s nomination of Chief Justice Melville W. Fuller in 1888

Grizz it is not a big surprise
In 2016 Garland was picked by Obama and rejected by the Republican Senate.

So in short if a President nominate a candidate for the Supreme Court and has control of the Senate his candidate will generally go through if the Pesident don't have control his candidate will generally fail.

 

[RELH]

Anyone that votes for Biden is a "low information voter" and that has spread to voting for most Democrats today.

RELH

 

[grizzly]

Anyone that votes for Biden is a "low information voter" and that has spread to voting for most Democrats today.

RELH

Do you still stand by your claim that they're traitors and should be treated as such? Do you think traitors to our country should be shot?

Does that mean you're calling for the execution of your political opponents?

Anyone who is still a devoted Democrat is a traitor to this country in my opinion and should be treated as such.

 

[Homer]

Wow....talk about educated beyond one’s intelligence...

 

[wetmule]

Obama nominated Garland because he knew his only chance of getting a hearing on anyone at all... was if he nominated a moderate lefty.

If he had the numbers in the senate he probably would have nominated Soros or someone like him

 

[RELH]

Grizzy said:
Do you still stand by your claim that they're traitors and should be treated as such? Do you think traitors to our country should be shot?

Does that mean you're calling for the execution of your political opponents?
_________________________________________________________________________
Grizzy you are full of it. Yes some are traitors to our constitution and should be removed from office via the ballot box. As long as we have people like you, that will not happen in the near future.
If this was the early 1880's, people like you would be on a slow boat back to England along with the defeated English army. Back then they were called "Tories" today they are called "socialists".
RELH

 

[NeMont]

_________________________________________________________________________
Grizzy you are full of it. Yes some are traitors to our constitution and should be removed from office via the ballot box. As long as we have people like you, that will not happen in the near future.
If this was the early 1880's, people like you would be on a slow boat back to England along with the defeated English army. Back then they were called "Tories" today they are called "socialists".
RELH

What war was fought with England in the 1880's?

 

[264mag]

What war was fought with England in the 1880's?

The Boer War

 

[NeMont]

The Boer War

1st or 2nd Boer War? And who were the Tories in the Boer war? Seems like in one of my college history classes it was the Afrikaner's but college has been a while.

 

[RELH]

Hit the wrong key, 1780's.

RELH

 

[264mag]

 

[264mag]

My Great Granfather fought in the Boer War

 

[NeMont]

That is a cool picture.

 

[264mag]

That is a cool picture.

Thank you !

 

[eelgrass]

Here's one who misses RBG.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1308179048741306368

 

[264mag]

Here's one who misses RBG.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1308179048741306368

Loser

 

[RELH]

Based on a speech, involving Roe Vs. Wade, Ginsburg gave years ago, she was a "closet racist" just like sleepy Joe. Oh wait! Democrats can not be a racist, only Republicans and Trump lovers.
RELH

 

[hossblur]

Ummm, the Dems DID NOT remove the filibuster for The Supreme Court. What they did in 2013 said "Rule XXII for all nominations other than for the Supreme Court of the United States is by majority vote."

It was the Republicans in 2017, in an attempt to defeat the Dem's Gorsuch filibuster (which was a response to the Garland debacle) that invoked the "nuclear option" for SCOTUS.

You guys really need to stop getting your information from memes on Facebook.

What EXACTLY was the Garland debacle?


Obama nominated at judge. The senate advised and consented.

Go read a history book and come back and tell us all how many times judges have been nominated in lame duck.

Then how many were confirmed by senate in opposite party.

Garland Wasnt close to the first.

Stop getting your talking points from MSNBC

 

[hossblur]

Loser

This reaction is a cult reaction. The left replaced religion with politics long ago. Reacting like this to the death of someone you've never met, and dont know, is cultish.

These videos look like the public grieving you see in China or N Korea.

Been an amazing year watching liberalism exposing itself

 

[treedagain]

RBG was a racist.. it's a documented fact.

 

[BuzzH]

This reaction is a cult reaction. The left replaced religion with politics long ago. Reacting like this to the death of someone you've never met, and dont know, is cultish.

These videos look like the public grieving you see in China or N Korea.

Been an amazing year watching liberalism exposing itself

So what do you call a grown "man" sitting in a driveway, slugging a six pack of beer, and crying about covid?

Just curious what strange cult someone like that would belong to.

 

[notdonhunting]

What EXACTLY was the Garland debacle?


Obama nominated at judge. The senate advised and consented.

Go read a history book and come back and tell us all how many times judges have been nominated in lame duck.

Then how many were confirmed by senate in opposite party.

Garland Wasnt close to the first.

Stop getting your talking points from MSNBC

I posted all that info but as usual Grizz leaves the conversation when the facts prove him as he really is "fake".

 

[grizzly]

What EXACTLY was the Garland debacle?


Obama nominated at judge. The senate advised and consented.

Go read a history book and come back and tell us all how many times judges have been nominated in lame duck.

Then how many were confirmed by senate in opposite party.

Garland Wasnt close to the first.

Stop getting your talking points from MSNBC

Yet another person who denigrates the idea of being educated. Just like Trump. And some people wonder why our education system is floundering compared to some other parts of the world. I guess ignorance truly is bliss for a Trumpeter. SMH.

PS. The Senate did not advise and consent, they never took it up. They had every right to to take it and give an up or down vote, but didn't. Even the ardent Trump supporters know Garland was highly-qualified and a moderate who Obama nominated in an attempt to get through a Republican Senate.

Also, if you want to go to history on this... Never has a Justice been nominated after July in an election year. Never. By either party.

 

[notdonhunting]

Grizz we have had 6 nominations for Supreme Court Justices by a President of one political party vs the Senate of the other political party on a election year and only once did the Senate approve the nomination.
So what is so special about the Garlend denied appointment.

 

[RELH]

Grizz wanted Garland in order for the Supreme Court to become a socialist leaning court.
RELH

 

[hossblur]

So what do you call a grown "man" sitting in a driveway, slugging a six pack of beer, and crying about covid?

Just curious what strange cult someone like that would belong to.

I have no clue what the hell this is.

 

[hossblur]

Yet another person who denigrates the idea of being educated. Just like Trump. And some people wonder why our education system is floundering compared to some other parts of the world. I guess ignorance truly is bliss for a Trumpeter. SMH.

PS. The Senate did not advise and consent, they never took it up. They had every right to to take it and give an up or down vote, but didn't. Even the ardent Trump supporters know Garland was highly-qualified and a moderate who Obama nominated in an attempt to get through a Republican Senate.

Also, if you want to go to history on this... Never has a Justice been nominated after July in an election year. Never. By either party.

Even when notdon posts the actual, factual, history, you keep pressing?

GO LOOK FOR YOURSELF.

Your not just a little wrong, your way off in the weeds.

Go google what both Obama and Biden said.

Usually your off just a little. You aint even close

 

[Homer]

" Also, if you want to go to history on this... Never has a Justice been nominated after July in an election year. Never. By either party. "

...how many opportunities have there been??

 

[BuzzH]

I have no clue what the hell this is.

Really?

I hid in my truck and had a good cry Monday.

Tuesday I felt sorry for myself most of the day

Wed, nothing like an earthquake to make you forget a virus.

Thurs I was back to being pissed,mechaniced all night

Friday I drank a beer or 4.

In between I was extremely thankful for my customers.

So pretty much a usual week when your self employed

 

[hossblur]

Oh.

Like ive said several times. When you sit around and that paycheck shows up regardless you have zero concept of what it takes to create it. Somehow you believe if you pontificate enough, someone will take you seriously. We dont. A lifelong government beauracrat discussing anything related to buisness, the economy, or the reality of having your name/ass on the line is like me explaining to my dog what its like to walk on 4 legs.

You should reread the last 2 lines. Same today as it was then. Same for me as any other guy in here in the same situation.

Thanks for memorizing my responses though, im flattered. Would you like an autographed pic?

 

[BuzzH]

Run along and cry in your truck some more...

 

[hossblur]

Run along and cry in your truck some more...

Pissy because RBG dying didnt get you paid a day off?

My manhood challenged by a dude whose been hiding at home for 6 months. Whatever will I do?

Im sure you'll tell me. You being the alpha male you are and all?

 

[cheeseheadinOHIO]

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And you guys rip Founder for saying "Karma" when you guys do chit like this BEFORE and right after she passes. Why you so full of hate? It must consume your life. Much better things to do in life then hate. Hope you all have a good and enjoyable hunting season.

 

[264mag]

And you guys rip Founder for saying "Karma" when you guys do chit like this BEFORE and right after she passes. Why you so full of hate? It must consume your life. Much better things to do in life then hate. Hope you all have a good and enjoyable hunting season.

Please wear your ?

 

[DW]

And you guys rip Founder for saying "Karma" when you guys do chit like this BEFORE and right after she passes. Why you so full of hate? It must consume your life. Much better things to do in life then hate. Hope you all have a good and enjoyable hunting season.

The man of integrity has spoken.?

 

[treedagain]

RBG.....in the spirit of Founder, I am sure where she is hot.....but a dry heat, right?
64 million babies aborted. She publically stated it was good for minority population control.
I hope ACB's vote overturns Roe v Wade. Fitting that RBG'S replacement seals the deal.
The world is better without her.

 

[BuzzH]

RBG.....in the spirit of Founder, I am sure where she is hot.....but a dry heat, right?
64 million babies aborted. She publically stated it was good for minority population control.
I hope ACB's vote overturns Roe v Wade. Fitting that RBG'S replacement seals the deal.
The world is better without her.

Actually, the world is a better place without 64 million more people tearing the crap out of it...

 

[264mag]

Actually, the world is a better place without 64 million more people tearing the crap out of it...

God has spoken

 

[BuzzH]

God has spoken

No, he just works in mysterious ways...

 

[Dconcrete]

If you truly believe the world is better off because of 64 million people
Being aborted, then Why aren’t you leading by example and offing yourself?
I saw where you stated your nephews will get your money. I assume that means you have no kids.
Just that alone shows me there actually is a God. But please, don’t let fear stand in your way.

 

[BuzzH]

If you truly believe the world is better off because of 64 million people
Being aborted, then Why aren’t you leading by example and offing yourself?
I saw where you stated your nephews will get your money. I assume that means you have no kids.
Just that alone shows me there actually is a God. But please, don’t let fear stand in your way.

I always thought "conservatives" liked living in a free country...guess not.

I believe in science and population control and the ability to think on my own, decide on my own, and not having some dimwit trying to beat me with a bible.

If you don't like abortion, good, don't have one...I'm fine with that. But enough pushing your convictions down everyone else's throat.

 

[treedagain]

The bible has nothing to do with caring about human life.
Free country yes....free to murder unborn and at times love births....no

 

[BuzzH]

The bible has nothing to do with caring about human life.

Good thing...or the hypocritical thumpers would be rotting in hell.

 

[treedagain]

I have a good feeling you will meet RBG one day, then you Hitler and her can have brunch. Remember it's just a dry heat

 

[BuzzH]

I have a good feeling you will meet RBG one day, then you Hitler and her can have brunch. Remember it's just a dry heat

Well, its just good to know you care so much about human life.

I knew it would all come out eventually...

 

[treedagain]

You lose your human card when you murder people in the name of population control

 

[BuzzH]

You lose your human card when you murder people in the name of population control

You lose your conservative and freedom card when you try controlling others lives, liberty, and freedom.

Call it even.

 

[Dconcrete]

Freedom doesn’t have anything to do with murdering the defenseless. And because you won’t defend the defenseless, that makes you a spineless ***** ass chicken ****

 

[BuzzH]

Freedom doesn’t have anything to do with murdering the defenseless. And because you won’t defend the defenseless, that makes you a spineless ***** ass chicken ****

Isn't my place to impose my will on a free people...isn't yours either, and the courts agree.

What other freedoms do you think aren't necessary in a free society that you're willing to take away?

 

[grizzly]

I had written a post about my own personal Pro-Life beliefs and the complexities of meshing that with other's personal freedoms (such as Freedom of Religion), but I decided it was too much to get into here.

Instead, the religion angle led me on a tangent... I wonder why it is that the posts from the far-right are so often filled with venom and vitriol. Just scroll up on this thread and others and you'll see such a large disparity in the posts from the left and the right. The hateful attacks are virtually universally from the right. Why is that?

Whatever happened to, "Love thy neighbor..." or "judge not..." or "let him who is without sin...?"

 

[RELH]

Grizzy that above post makes you into one of the biggest hypocrites I have seen on this forum.
RELH

 

[treedagain]

Buzz wont be to long and it won't be legal to kill unborn babies.

 

[grizzly]

Grizzy that above post makes you into one of the biggest hypocrites I have seen on this forum.
RELH

Dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge

(I don't attack people or call people names... you just don't like what I say. Which according to you means I'm a traitor to my country and "should be treated as such." Judge not...)

 

[BuzzH]

Buzz wont be to long and it won't be legal to kill unborn babies.

You live in fantasyland...and don't understand what R V W means if, and that's a big if, its repealed.

There will still be states where its legal, and lots of people do lots of illegal things.

Dream on...

 

[Dconcrete]

The argument of taking freedoms away ends for me when you’re talking about terminating another life. You do not have the freedom to do that because of convenience. I truly do not care what the courts say on the matter.

I do believe in absolute freedoms, I just don’t believe that you have the freedom to murder out of convenience.
And I also do find the statements of population control truly truly disgusting. But again, I won’t hold my breath waiting for you to lead by example.

I do not know the reasons you don’t have kids, but I’d say you’re the poorest man amongst a many others I’ve met. The sad truth is this.....in many ways, your impact isn’t anything. Once you’re gone, nobody’s day changes. Your impact is so insignificant that you may as well have never existed.

 

[treedagain]

Yep it will be legal where RBG wanted to suppress minority population. Blue as Blue can be. Buzz the beourocrat. Living with his head in the sand

 

[treedagain]

The argument of taking freedoms away ends for me when you’re talking about terminating another life. You do not have the freedom to do that because of convenience. I truly do not care what the courts say on the matter.

I do believe in absolute freedoms, I just don’t believe that you have the freedom to murder out of convenience.
And I also do find the statements of population control truly truly disgusting. But again, I won’t hold my breath waiting for you to lead by example.

I do not know the reasons you don’t have kids, but I’d say you’re the poorest man amongst a many others I’ve met. The sad truth is this.....in many ways, your impact isn’t anything. Once you’re gone, nobody’s day changes. Your impact is so insignificant that you may as well have never existed.

One gene pool that thankfully ends.

 

[BuzzH]

Yep it will be legal where RBG wanted to suppress minority population. Blue as Blue can be. Buzz the beourocrat. Living with his head in the sand

You actually believing that R v. W being over-turned by the Supreme Court is going to stop abortion...that's the very definition of living with your head in the sand.

You know it...and so does everybody else.

 

[RELH]

Grizzy I will judge you any darn time I wish to do so. You are a outright hypocrite and will always be one. That judgement is based on your repeated threads to this forum and your comments to others that do not share your political beliefs.

RELH

 

[BuzzH]

The argument of taking freedoms away ends for me when you’re talking about terminating another life. You do not have the freedom to do that because of convenience. I truly do not care what the courts say on the matter.

I do believe in absolute freedoms, I just don’t believe that you have the freedom to murder out of convenience.
And I also do find the statements of population control truly truly disgusting. But again, I won’t hold my breath waiting for you to lead by example.

I do not know the reasons you don’t have kids, but I’d say you’re the poorest man amongst a many others I’ve met. The sad truth is this.....in many ways, your impact isn’t anything. Once you’re gone, nobody’s day changes. Your impact is so insignificant that you may as well have never existed.

Oh crap...what a hypocrite. Throughout history we've terminated life without even giving it a second thought...a metric chit ton of it in the name of religion.

Sorry, but abortion isn't considered murder under the law.

In case you haven't looked lately, we're a nation of laws, and your belief in absolute freedoms is a fantasy as well. You have the exact freedoms the Government allows you to have...and not any more.

You don't believe in anything close to absolute freedoms, only those freedoms that you agree with...

Maybe you should start caring more about the 16-18 million kids that go hungry in the U.S. every day instead of a dead aborted fetus.

What's your plan to take care of another 64 million people when we cant take care of those that are currently alive?

This should be good...

 

[Dconcrete]

Unlike you, the government doesn’t have to tell me where or when to donate my money.
You want it taken forcibly via taxes. Instead of letting the individuals decide who or what they’ll donate to.
The problem with folks like you, is the fact that you want an answer for everything. 16-18 million that are starving in this nation or any nation is double right terrible. But killing them? Get real. Again, you can call me a hypocrite all you want, but just like all your other liberal counterparts in the country, throwing $hit at the wall, and hoping it sticks won’t fly here.
Religion, as you do want to continue to degrade, takes on many of these starving and under privileged people. The free market, charity, etc....has done and will continue to do more for people than anyone of you do nothing, give nothing, donate nothing loud mouthed under accomplished, wimp, weak minded, limp wristed, quite frankly a f@cking ***** of a man has ever or ever will do.
The strength of a man is measured by defending the defenseless. You’ll never have the balls or the guts to do it.

 

[grizzly]

Grizzy I will judge you any darn time I wish to do so. You are a outright hypocrite and will always be one. That judgement is based on your repeated threads to this forum and your comments to others that do not share your political beliefs.

RELH

Even if your hypocrisy charges were true, which they aren't, it still would not answer or absolve for the venom and vitriol directed at others from yourself and others of the far-right.

Which makes your post nothing more than a dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge.

 

[grizzly]

Can anybody point to a single post of personal attacks by a MM "liberal" on this thread that exceeds what was just posted above?

that makes you a spineless ***** ass chicken ****

you do nothing, give nothing, donate nothing loud mouthed under accomplished, wimp, weak minded, limp wristed, quite frankly a f@cking ***** of a man

 

[Don Quixote]

ACB