I don’t know how many times I’ve said that. They are more likely to stick their head in a bucket of manure than go out of their way to lick a salt block.I won a couple of Redmond Salt salt rocks, a few years ago. I’m not in the cow business these days so I put them out in my yard for the deer to use. After two years, not a deer touched them. Twenty to thirty head eat apples right next to them all fall.
I was in Redmond Salt one day and asked their marketing boss about it. He said this: The deer in the mountain west aren’t much interested in salt because the soil has a fair amount of natural salt, so their system isn’t calling for it. He said the eastern deer crave it because their soil doesn’t. The elk however use salt here, especially during the period when they are growing antlers.
So...... take that for what it’s worth, legal or otherwise.
........, you know the.. the.. the thing! "past performances don't necessarily indicate future results." Use at Your Own Risk:
Depends on what you are doing with the salt. It is legal if you're not planning on hunting over it and are just trying to get some pictures with a trail cam or trying to give the deer a boost of nutrition.Is it legal to use salt (or any other attractant) for deer in Utah? I know it used to be legal, but a friend told me the law had recently changed. Do any of you know definitively?
Have any of you had any success using salt or bait in Utah?
Thanks,
Soup
That's not true.If you're putting out salt, you better own some cattle in the area or you're breaking the law.
Is that saying that only the live stock people can put out salt and the like? Or is that saying you (anyone) can put out the salt that live stock people might commonly put out?Baiting is prohibited, except for "the use of salt, mineral blocks, or other commonly used types of livestock supplements placed in the field by agricultural producers for normal agricultural purposes"
How is that unclear?
I agree but I don't know why they just didn't say something like, no baiting of any big game animal with any substance.The intent of the bill is very clear. If people don't accept that and live with it, I guarantee you'll see another bill next year.
Is that saying that only the live stock people can put out salt and the like? Or is that saying you (anyone) can put out the salt that live stock people might commonly put out?
If it was just the live stock people being able to do it, there needs to be the word “ONLY” before “agriculture producers”. it can be interpreted either way. The wording is fuzzy at best. The DWR doesn’t even know what to do with it, which is why they haven’t posted their official stance on what will be acceptable and what will not.
This is what I was getting at.Not true on the statutory construction. The exception for agriculture producers is very clearly written in the statute. There is no ambiguity there. The closest thing to ambiguity or a loophole is what Ridge pointed out, because it’s only defined as baiting if done for the purposes of taking big game or attempting to take big game. The one word of caution I’d give is if you’re going to try and play that loop hole, you better make sure you do not possess a big game permit for that area this year. You will want to freshen up on the definitions in 23-13-2.
And by “area” you mean the 50 yard radius around said bait. Anywhere else is fair gameNot true on the statutory construction. The exception for agriculture producers is very clearly written in the statute. There is no ambiguity there. The closest thing to ambiguity or a loophole is what Ridge pointed out, because it’s only defined as baiting if done for the purposes of taking big game or attempting to take big game. The one word of caution I’d give is if you’re going to try and play that loop hole, you better make sure you do not possess a big game permit for that area this year. You will want to freshen up on the definitions in 23-13-2.
And by “area” you mean the 50 yard radius around said bait. Anywhere else is fair game
If we are going off the wording on the new law, it says 50 yards. 50 yards is 50 yards. Not the entire unit. You shouldn’t need a lawyer to interpret the big game laws from the guide book. It needs to be written so everyone can understand it. If there’s more to this than 50 yards from a bait pile, people need to be aware of it.That is not how I would personally interpret that. By “area” I mean hunt unit. But, do whatever you would like to do with it.
Elkslayer, define “big game baiting.”
If we are going off the wording on the new law, it says 50 yards. 50 yards is 50 yards. Not the entire unit. You shouldn’t need a lawyer to interpret the big game laws from the guide book. It needs to be written so everyone can understand it. If there’s more to this than 50 yards from a bait pile, people need to be aware of it.
So what are they gonna do? Haul boxes of cut and wrapped deer or elk meat into a court roomThere is more to it than the 50 yards. All you have to do is read it. Here is the link to the code: https://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title23/Chapter16/23-16-S11.html?v=C23-16-S11_2021050520210505
You’re prohibited from doing more than just hunting a baited area. You’re prohibited from baiting entirely. Pay particularly close attention to subsection (2). Everything you need to know about this law is contained in the law. You will need to see the code I cited above if you want to know what it legally means to “take” big game.