Suppressing Conservative Voices

[Boskee]

Some on here can't seem to realize why suppressing opposing viewpoints is a violation of our first amendment rights. It's also a way to promote only the views of a state controlled media like is in place in so many socialist countries, It's also a way to eliminate items the left wants to take, guns, walls, products, books, cartoons, TV shows etc. As we can see now some big guns in the media business are exerting their influence to work to silence conservative sites which in effect will silence them by clamping their revenue stream and other tactics. Here's the article and you can see why regulation to protect free speech may be needed. Funny how the party of rights and freedom and the ACLU will use any methods they deem necessary to silence opposing view points on any facet of their "approved" narrative. Just another example of how our nation is under attack from within and the left will leave no stones unturned to silence those that oppose them and their progressive agenda of transformation.

A vast left-wing conspiracy suppressing conservative voices includes Google, NBC, and a shadowy foreign group

Remember when the progressive media feigned concern over foreign influence on our elections? Now, just months before a critical election, they are conspiring with foreign groups to destroy conservative publications, with the assistance of Google, the...

www.americanthinker.com

 

[Homer]

get your Aunt Jemima before it's too late....Uncle Ben's rice too.......rice crispies while there....

 

[Wyosam]

To be clear, I’m not supportive of any systematic attempt to silence the voice of any group, but I don’t see a viable solution. You keep mentioning state controlled media, which we currently do not have, but you seem to advocating for? The citizens unIted decision gave rights to corporations that they should not have, and ultimately that is a big problem in situations like this where we have a powerful alliance of left leaning media companies. I still think the answer is in the right creating a viable opposition to that alliance- Population wise the left seems to have a slight advantage, but it is not a huge margin. Why can’t the other half of the country (the right) get their act together and create some of their own power to influence? There is plenty of money, people, and power to do it. I don’t agree with most of what they argue for (but have no issue with their right to argue for it), but the left is far better at organizing grassroots movements. I think the violence/looting/destruction needs to be squashed, but the shear volume of people supporting BLM even taking away all the people just there for the “party” has no comparable force from the right. Fox has huge viewership, but beyond that most right leaning media (Breitbart, Rush, etc) is generally considered fringe media at best by much of the country. Some of it is style I suspect- it is very unfiltered. The right is very good at pushing its voice on some issues, but honestly sucks at messaging to appeal to moderates and independents. Especially since 2016, the party seems to be actually doing just the opposite and focusing only on solidifying the base. The only thing helping with that is the left being just as bad at appealing to moderates. Regulation of media political slant is going to be a disaster to manage, probably wont work, and is outright dangerous when one side has complete control (As can be clearly seen in places around the globe that have state run media, as you mentioned). Where would the control even stop? Does the government start telling companies what content they must produce? That they have to keep the Indian on the butter, the puppy cop on TV, and the black lady on the flapjack syrup? The country is screwed up for sure, and way past it’s expiration date as superpowers go, so maybe the civil war many on the right seem to be craving is where we are headed. Maybe it is inevitable, the right and left might as well be Shia and Sunni at this point.

 

[Boskee]

Well I can see we're starting to awaken the sleeping giant. You're starting to see a little of what's been going on and that's good. Guess the old guy may not be as crazy as you thought. The issues are far deeper than many realize and it's not entirely about a puppy cop, a black lady, or an Indian on the butter. It's about an ongoing effort to shape how you think by manipulating your mind at all levels within our schools, work, entertainment and social fabric that's been going on for decades. Using divisional controls and triggers. based on race, sex, age, education, wealth, equality, opportunity, discrimination, job status and a host of others factors. through the creation of bias in many areas where none existed to compel human emotion to be falsely triggered in the process.

In other words people have been programmed and empowered to act out their feelings in areas where they felt they were harmed. They have been wronged by society, corporate America, their fellow man and their opportunity suffered as a result of this premeditated bias across the board. They've endured this in their life and by previous generations on their forefathers. All this was done by evil whites and corporate America by the capitalists that got so rich off their labor. It's a bit more complicated than that but all those out there rioting and marching and looting have had these biases extended to them so they feel a connection with their other members. All of these people have been treated in an unfair or biased manner in their lives and their allies have a sense of compassion and an emotional connection that binds them together to get back at society for the injustice and hatred they've felt.

These folks are the proletariat of the socialist movement of today.

The elimination of opposing views or dissention has been practiced for years by silencing those who offer opposing thought. We've all seen it when a conservative speaker is to speak on a college campus. The protest, attack and throw a tantrum to get them removed from the schedule. It became more obvious during the Obama administration along with the more open discussion of socialist ideas. Bernie delivered that vote to them in spades so we know they were ready to evolve to socialism in their fantasy world. But we saw first hand that Bernie wasn't the candidate of choice TWICE so he did his job and most likely was handsomely rewarded. He was discarded for the more popular Biden and much less popular Hillary which brings us to today.

Your point about us reaching the end of our reign as a Republic is well founded but that's why the guy with the warts is the best choice to save the Republic. He's proven himself as a fighter and has managed to beat them at their own game. He is as tough as they come in giving it back in like and kind. But we're not out of the woods with his election since the powers that oppose him and tried the coup are still there and must be purged. out of both houses. This has to happen over the next 4 election cycles to end the damn madness. We're not that far gone that we can't right the ship but it's up to us to do it and if we fail get ready to go to globalism and the new world order that awaits with open arms salivating at finally getting the crown jewel into the socialist fold.

So lets all work together to put down the coup and set up future generations with the same country we grew up in and let them experience all that we had in our lives. Our generation didn't save the world, but it wouldn't be a bad legacy to save our country. They young folks think they know best but as they age they'll realize the error of their ways just like millions upon millions of other liberals that have switched parties over the years.

I realize I was rough on you and i apologize for that but sometimes you have to shake a soul to save one.

Based on your post above have faith many of the things you addressed will be remedied if we get Trump reelected and it won't be a state run media so breathe easy. The system we had with free thought has served us well for 250 years and it's an easy fix through regulation protecting free speech laws which we've had since our inception. You've got some great viewpoints and this has always been a nation of evolution and things will improve. But we have ti put down the coup once and for all!

 

[roadrunner]

The country is screwed up for sure, and way past it’s expiration date as superpowers go, so maybe the civil war many on the right seem to be craving is where we are headed.

The right hasn't been killing cops, roughing up business owners, burning down buildings, destroying history, and creating Bono-villes.

The right doesn't want a civil war. The right does want to preserve liberty and defend the governing document that gives it to all freely.

Try to keep up.

 

[Boskee]

As we sit there and look at things today the left is portraying us as a BROKEN RACIST NATION when that's hardly the case. Your nation isn't broke they're just trying to make the world think we are, as the negative footage airs around the world. This is the same country it was several months ago with a bright future ahead of us. The issue is some bad actors are abusing their elective positions to make it appear we're a nation under duress completely divided and seeking change from within. A government being rejected by it's own people crying for justice and equality. Their coup failed so now we're going to use the indoctrinated pawns to see if we can cause a revolt from within.

 

[Homer]

money wise we are broke....we just haven't admitted it yet

 

[hossblur]

To be clear, I’m not supportive of any systematic attempt to silence the voice of any group, but I don’t see a viable solution. You keep mentioning state controlled media, which we currently do not have, but you seem to advocating for? The citizens unIted decision gave rights to corporations that they should not have, and ultimately that is a big problem in situations like this where we have a powerful alliance of left leaning media companies. I still think the answer is in the right creating a viable opposition to that alliance- Population wise the left seems to have a slight advantage, but it is not a huge margin. Why can’t the other half of the country (the right) get their act together and create some of their own power to influence? There is plenty of money, people, and power to do it. I don’t agree with most of what they argue for (but have no issue with their right to argue for it), but the left is far better at organizing grassroots movements. I think the violence/looting/destruction needs to be squashed, but the shear volume of people supporting BLM even taking away all the people just there for the “party” has no comparable force from the right. Fox has huge viewership, but beyond that most right leaning media (Breitbart, Rush, etc) is generally considered fringe media at best by much of the country. Some of it is style I suspect- it is very unfiltered. The right is very good at pushing its voice on some issues, but honestly sucks at messaging to appeal to moderates and independents. Especially since 2016, the party seems to be actually doing just the opposite and focusing only on solidifying the base. The only thing helping with that is the left being just as bad at appealing to moderates. Regulation of media political slant is going to be a disaster to manage, probably wont work, and is outright dangerous when one side has complete control (As can be clearly seen in places around the globe that have state run media, as you mentioned). Where would the control even stop? Does the government start telling companies what content they must produce? That they have to keep the Indian on the butter, the puppy cop on TV, and the black lady on the flapjack syrup? The country is screwed up for sure, and way past it’s expiration date as superpowers go, so maybe the civil war many on the right seem to be craving is where we are headed. Maybe it is inevitable, the right and left might as well be Shia and Sunni at this point.

The simple answer is to take away the platform status of FB, IG, You Tube, etc.
They are protected lawsuits by claiming they are simply platforms that content uses.

Now with them censoring and fact checking, they are no longer platforms. And should be the same as a paper, radio, or TV, and open to lawsuits for liable and slander

 

[Wyosam]

Well I can see we're starting to awaken the sleeping giant. You're starting to see a little of what's been going on and that's good. Guess the old guy may not be as crazy as you thought. The issues are far deeper than many realize and it's not entirely about a puppy cop, a black lady, or an Indian on the butter. It's about an ongoing effort to shape how you think by manipulating your mind at all levels within our schools, work, entertainment and social fabric that's been going on for decades. Using divisional controls and triggers. based on race, sex, age, education, wealth, equality, opportunity, discrimination, job status and a host of others factors. through the creation of bias in many areas where none existed to compel human emotion to be falsely triggered in the process.

In other words people have been programmed and empowered to act out their feelings in areas where they felt they were harmed. They have been wronged by society, corporate America, their fellow man and their opportunity suffered as a result of this premeditated bias across the board. They've endured this in their life and by previous generations on their forefathers. All this was done by evil whites and corporate America by the capitalists that got so rich off their labor. It's a bit more complicated than that but all those out there rioting and marching and looting have had these biases extended to them so they feel a connection with their other members. All of these people have been treated in an unfair or biased manner in their lives and their allies have a sense of compassion and an emotional connection that binds them together to get back at society for the injustice and hatred they've felt.

These folks are the proletariat of the socialist movement of today.

The elimination of opposing views or dissention has been practiced for years by silencing those who offer opposing thought. We've all seen it when a conservative speaker is to speak on a college campus. The protest, attack and throw a tantrum to get them removed from the schedule. It became more obvious during the Obama administration along with the more open discussion of socialist ideas. Bernie delivered that vote to them in spades so we know they were ready to evolve to socialism in their fantasy world. But we saw first hand that Bernie wasn't the candidate of choice TWICE so he did his job and most likely was handsomely rewarded. He was discarded for the more popular Biden and much less popular Hillary which brings us to today.

Your point about us reaching the end of our reign as a Republic is well founded but that's why the guy with the warts is the best choice to save the Republic. He's proven himself as a fighter and has managed to beat them at their own game. He is as tough as they come in giving it back in like and kind. But we're not out of the woods with his election since the powers that oppose him and tried the coup are still there and must be purged. out of both houses. This has to happen over the next 4 election cycles to end the damn madness. We're not that far gone that we can't right the ship but it's up to us to do it and if we fail get ready to go to globalism and the new world order that awaits with open arms salivating at finally getting the crown jewel into the socialist fold.

So lets all work together to put down the coup and set up future generations with the same country we grew up in and let them experience all that we had in our lives. Our generation didn't save the world, but it wouldn't be a bad legacy to save our country. They young folks think they know best but as they age they'll realize the error of their ways just like millions upon millions of other liberals that have switched parties over the years.

I realize I was rough on you and i apologize for that but sometimes you have to shake a soul to save one.

Based on your post above have faith many of the things you addressed will be remedied if we get Trump reelected and it won't be a state run media so breathe easy. The system we had with free thought has served us well for 250 years and it's an easy fix through regulation protecting free speech laws which we've had since our inception. You've got some great viewpoints and this has always been a nation of evolution and things will improve. But we have ti put down the coup once and for all!

Whoa there cowboy, don’t start thinking you have converted me. I do fear state run media, but neither I, nor the left was the one who suggested it in this thread, you did. YOU suggested “regulation to protect free speech“ in a conversation about decisions that private companies, specifically those in media, make. That is the question I have asked a few times now. Is that what you are actually advocating?

I sure as hell don’t think Trump is the man to fix anything. I think the key difference between us (and I actually think we probably share a lot more opinions than anyone would assume), is that you see US vs them, and they must be squashed. I see Americans divided over hot button issues that the two party system invites. There is no longer any room in either party for common ground, which is stupid. The parties have decided that what ever the other side thinks, they must think the polar opposite. That is not a realistic way for humans to think- especially when you look at all the different topics the country is divided on. What are the odds that people actually believe the entire platform of either side? Yet here we are, where most of the country just lines up like good little lemmings behind the party line, whichever side they are on. I don’t want either side squashed, I sure as hell don’t want a civil war. I want the extreme fringes to go back to being on the fringe, with control swinging back and forth across the center, but never actually straying too far when taken as a whole. That is where people will tend to fall if they are honest with themselves and give it some thought- its called a bell curve, and it is really reliable. Instead, politics has become more like picking a favorite sports team than an actual reflection on what one actually believes in. That’s not a dig at you- you may very well have beliefs that line up on the far right (although I think that needle has moved, many of the traditional conservative values are long gone). Overall, though, people just fall in line with the beliefs they are spoon fed by the parties. The funny part is, its the moderates (in a few key states) and independents who end up deciding presidential elections, and we’re always holding our nose when we vote (not that Wyoming is a swing state- our 3 electors are pretty safe). As much as we disagree, you do provoke thought and I thank you for that.

 

[Boskee]

Well the proofs on your TV screen every night right now and if you don't have a tv that explains a lot of why you weren't up to speed on the Russian collusion Mess. It's a damn mess for sure but I'm not willing to give it to the socialists and i hope you come to the same conclusion.

 

[Homer]

has there ever been a book..."great moderates in History".....moderates just ride coat tails....and blow in the wind...

 

[Boskee]

You make a good point Homer. But this election boils down to supporting the party causing all the division and fueling the hatred that lied to us that wants socialism or Trump and the party of law and order that doesn't.

All the rest of the fence sitting and other moralistic crap is just that CRAP.

Or try these two options if you want a more realistic approach


If you want your kids to grow up under the control of a new world order whose ideology has proven a failure around the world vote democrat..OR...if you want to have them grow up in the country we did free of outside governance vote for Trump.

Those are the only 2 choices that matter and it's just that simple. There's only 2 options that matter vote for anything else and you threw your vote in the trash and in this election the dems will promote that option since it's one of the oldest tricks in politics to take votes away from an opponent they fear. The electoral college doesn't offset that since in most states the popular vote winner takes all on electoral votes totals.

 

[DW]

 

[Homer]

did you see what our "conservative" court did this week??

 

[DW]

All the more reason.

 

[Wyosam]

has there ever been a book..."great moderates in History".....moderates just ride coat tails....and blow in the wind...

That makes no sense. By definition, Someone who falls between the parties is NOT being a follower. You can say we don’t matter, and maybe we don’t, but a moderate/independent is clearly not participating in group think, or they would just fall in line with a side.

 

[Homer]

a moderate is not an independent.....both blow in the breeze though

 

[264mag]

I hope I’m wrong but the Trojan Horse is here .

 

[RELH]

If Wyosam is a moderate, then so is Hanoi Jane Fonda.

RELH

 

[wetmule]

This will not end well if these folks get full control.
Put this in your moderate pipe and smoke it.

 

[roadrunner]

That makes no sense. By definition, Someone who falls between the parties is NOT being a follower. You can say we don’t matter, and maybe we don’t, but a moderate/independent is clearly not participating in group think, or they would just fall in line with a side.

Someone who falls in between the two parties is a Libertarian, not a moderate.

 

[Wyosam]

Someone who falls in between the two parties is a Libertarian, not a moderate.

That is not even remotely true. Some libertarians may fall into the middle, but that is not what makes them a libertarian. Independents could realistically fall anywhere in the political spectrum, but not associate with a party- such as Bernie being a very far left Independent. A lot of us tend to fall in the middle though. Technically, I would say I’m a moderate republican, because I have always been registered as a republican. I don’t vote a party line though, nor do I believe many of the hard “right” policies pushed by most of the party now. Right gets quotes, because much of what is going on is pretty far from traditional conservatism. Not sure why I bother, since the default response to anything but blind allegiance to the orange messiah makes one Hanoi Jane.

 

[roadrunner]

That is not even remotely true. Some libertarians may fall into the middle, but that is not what makes them a libertarian. Independents could realistically fall anywhere in the political spectrum, but not associate with a party- such as Bernie being a very far left Independent. A lot of us tend to fall in the middle though. Technically, I would say I’m a moderate republican, because I have always been registered as a republican. I don’t vote a party line though, nor do I believe many of the hard “right” policies pushed by most of the party now. Right gets quotes, because much of what is going on is pretty far from traditional conservatism. Not sure why I bother, since the default response to anything but blind allegiance to the orange messiah makes one Hanoi Jane.

Yeah, it really is. A Libertarian uses parts of both party idealogies to make theirs up.

Again, try to keep up. For a doctor, I wonder about you...

 

[Homer]

“The only things in the middle of the road are yellow lines and dead opossums...”

 

[eelgrass]

If someone starts a hate America cult does anyone have a right to join and preach pro America? Should the government force the cult to accept them? Or should the government silence them?

In other words if you're pro America don't sign up for Facebook or Google or Twitter, etc. unless you can live with their rules and content. You're free to get your own soap box or join another group that aligns with your belief.

Do you know what you get when you Google a subject? You get what Google wants you to see.

 

[JB1975]

I happily have no social media. That stuff is a detriment to society in my opinion.

 

[WARDO]

To be clear, I’m not supportive of any systematic attempt to silence the voice of any group, but I don’t see a viable solution. You keep mentioning state controlled media, which we currently do not have, but you seem to advocating for? The citizens unIted decision gave rights to corporations that they should not have, and ultimately that is a big problem in situations like this where we have a powerful alliance of left leaning media companies. I still think the answer is in the right creating a viable opposition to that alliance- Population wise the left seems to have a slight advantage, but it is not a huge margin. Why can’t the other half of the country (the right) get their act together and create some of their own power to influence? There is plenty of money, people, and power to do it. I don’t agree with most of what they argue for (but have no issue with their right to argue for it), but the left is far better at organizing grassroots movements. I think the violence/looting/destruction needs to be squashed, but the shear volume of people supporting BLM even taking away all the people just there for the “party” has no comparable force from the right. Fox has huge viewership, but beyond that most right leaning media (Breitbart, Rush, etc) is generally considered fringe media at best by much of the country. Some of it is style I suspect- it is very unfiltered. The right is very good at pushing its voice on some issues, but honestly sucks at messaging to appeal to moderates and independents. Especially since 2016, the party seems to be actually doing just the opposite and focusing only on solidifying the base. The only thing helping with that is the left being just as bad at appealing to moderates. Regulation of media political slant is going to be a disaster to manage, probably wont work, and is outright dangerous when one side has complete control (As can be clearly seen in places around the globe that have state run media, as you mentioned). Where would the control even stop? Does the government start telling companies what content they must produce? That they have to keep the Indian on the butter, the puppy cop on TV, and the black lady on the flapjack syrup? The country is screwed up for sure, and way past it’s expiration date as superpowers go, so maybe the civil war many on the right seem to be craving is where we are headed. Maybe it is inevitable, the right and left might as well be Shia and Sunni at this point.

Look for that to change in the next year. Google is censoring any voice that isn't radically leftist, and the Congress has taken note of that. They will be broken up under anti-trust laws in the next year. Facebook may suffer the same fate.

 

[Wyosam]

Yeah, it really is. A Libertarian uses parts of both party idealogies to make theirs up.

Again, try to keep up. For a doctor, I wonder about you...

No, it really is not. One of the basic tenants of the libertarian party is minimizing government involvement in people lives, they are also firmly against income tax, or government regulation in pretty much any form. They are very anti death penalty. I agree with much of libertarian platform, but there are a few big ones that make it not work for me. That is not the moderate middle between left and right, It is a blending of specific portions of the left and right platforms, often with a more extreme interpretation that the Democrat or republican take on a topic.

Platform | Libertarian Party

As adopted by convention, May 2022, Sparks, Nevada. Download PDF

www.lp.org

 

[Wyosam]

I happily have no social media. That stuff is a detriment to society in my opinion.

You do realize you just typed that on an online discussion forum, right?

 

[roadrunner]

No, it really is not. One of the basic tenants of the libertarian party is minimizing government involvement in people lives, they are also firmly against income tax, or government regulation in pretty much any form. They are very anti death penalty. I agree with much of libertarian platform, but there are a few big ones that make it not work for me. That is not the moderate middle between left and right, It is a blending of specific portions of the left and right platforms, often with a more extreme interpretation that the Democrat or republican take on a topic.

Platform | Libertarian Party

As adopted by convention, May 2022, Sparks, Nevada. Download PDF

www.lp.org

Rethink your post after you reread mine. I'm really not interested in boring everyone with getting into a pissing contest with you.

 

[JB1975]

You do realize you just typed that on an online discussion forum, right?

I don't look at forums the same as Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc. Those delve way more into personal lives than here. No friends list, employers lurking, etc. Completely different if you ask me.

 

[Wyosam]

Rethink your post after you reread mine. I'm really not interested in boring everyone with getting into a pissing contest with you.

Then stop squatting, and learn to read. What you posted is patently false, I included a link to the parties most recently published platform.

 

[SlowElk]

“The only things in the middle of the road are yellow lines and dead opossums...”

You forgot indecisive squirrels! Haha!