freebird63
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Any guesses on when they they will post draw results?
Didn’t you just draw something like 3 years ago. I’m not gonna go back and find the thread but I know others have in the pastI dont give a Crap when they draw !! Just hoping that my 22 years in a row streak of getting the Go F myself from Idaho F&G Gets BROKE !!!
I see my guessing the date , is about the same as picking units that i can draw.Im guessing this Thursday
Cant seem to draw in any other state.
Hopefully my home state takes pitty on me , and gives me a tag![]()
Damn I wish !! Me & my youngest son neither of us have drawn an Idaho tag since 2000 !!! We drew Lope unit 39 in 2000 My middle son drew 18 late buck & the bull tag 3 or 4 years ago !! That is probably what your referring toDidn’t you just draw something like 3 years ago. I’m not gonna go back and find the thread but I know others have in the past
Yep just like the Super tags used to be under 40000 people applying this year was 150000 !! 53000 people moved into Idaho in 2021 probably that or more this year !!22 years of applying and not a damn thing to show for it… and your odds of drawing get worse every year.
Idaho needs to do nothing, much less cater to the demands of nonresidents. If you don't like it, quit applying.Idaho basically conducts two draws for the same species 6 months apart. It's ridiculous. The "OTC" tags are now legitimately a draw. They need to implement NV's system with 5 choices and squared bonus points and lump OTC and controlled into one. It would work way better. I'm talking for nonresidents only.
Get rid of "controlled hunts" all together. They'd just be normal hunts that are harder to draw. NV doesn't have "controlled hunts". That term doesn't even make sense. Every hunt is "controlled" by tag limits and regulations.
Every western state should be consulting with Nevada on how they should conduct their draws. They aren't perfect, but they run the tightest ship by far.
Yes they do, and yes they do. IDFG commissioners care more about NR revenue than residents. Why wouldn't they streamline a process that's clunky and broken? Hunting is a business. Being a resident doesn't mean you're special. It just means you're lucky to get cheaper tags and more hunting. As a NR I have as much say what happens on NF or BLM land as you do.Idaho needs to do nothing, much less cater to the demands of nonresidents. If you don't like it, quit applying.
Call ID F&G and tell them your grand plan on how to run the state. Report back after they politely tell you to have a nice day.Yes they do, and yes they do. IDFG commissioners care more about NR revenue than residents. Why wouldn't they streamline a process that's clunky and broken? Hunting is a business. Being a resident doesn't mean you're special. It just means you're lucky to get cheaper tags and more hunting. As a NR I have as much say what happens on NF or BLM land as you do.
I think it's partially because ID is one of the last draw results posted and some people are frustrated that they haven't drawn a tag anywhere yet.I think this thread may have set a record for the longest time taken before it devolved into someone calling for a point system. Well done fellas!
As far as “streamlining the process” goes they have the demand of all the non residents playing their game. In their eyes it works.Yes they do, and yes they do. IDFG commissioners care more about NR revenue than residents. Why wouldn't they streamline a process that's clunky and broken? Hunting is a business. Being a resident doesn't mean you're special. It just means you're lucky to get cheaper tags and more hunting. As a NR I have as much say what happens on NF or BLM land as you do.
Hell no.Idaho basically conducts two draws for the same species 6 months apart. It's ridiculous. The "OTC" tags are now legitimately a draw. They need to implement NV's system with 5 choices and squared bonus points and lump OTC and controlled into one. It would work way better. I'm talking for nonresidents only.
Get rid of "controlled hunts" all together. They'd just be normal hunts that are harder to draw. NV doesn't have "controlled hunts". That term doesn't even make sense. Every hunt is "controlled" by tag limits and regulations.
Every western state should be consulting with Nevada on how they should conduct their draws. They aren't perfect, but they run the tightest ship by far.
Isn’t it funny that all the people that don’t live in Idaho want to change how Idaho works. Mind your own business folks. Don’t like it, move alongHell no.
Couldn't agree more! With that being said though we are selling our California home for a profit and moving to Idaho.Isn’t it funny that all the people that don’t live in Idaho want to change how Idaho works. Mind your own business folks. Don’t like it, move along
Who cares? If they don't like it, they don't have to participate. There's a few states that I don't apply in because I don't like the odds or the way they do things. Nobody is forcing NR to do anything, they're choosing to participate in the process and then crying about the choice they made.I’m a resident and don’t want a point system, but I’m also pretty sure the way they do the nonresident “waiting room” elk tag thing in December is the stupidest thing known to man. Who in their right mind thought that picking a business day at 10a for thousands of people to get a number and wait in a virtual line and hope their computer network doesn’t die and which also doesn’t allow a father and son to get a tag together was a good idea is just a moron.
That’s great. When you get here leave it the F alone please!!Couldn't agree more! With that being said though we are selling our California home for a profit and moving to Idaho.(already checked my car registration will be under$100, compared to $700 for my new truck. heck yes! win win!
You and everyone else, Utah and Idaho have grown like crazy. SadCouldn't agree more! With that being said though we are selling our California home for a profit and moving to Idaho.(already checked my car registration will be under$100, compared to $700 for my new truck. heck yes! win win!
Who cares? If they don't like it, they don't have to participate. There's a few states that I don't apply in because I don't like the odds or the way they do things. Nobody is forcing NR to do anything, they're choosing to participate in the process and then crying about the choice they made.
Yeah it does! As the resident population explodes you cannot continue to operate the same every thing as 40 years ago! The non resident quota hasn’t changed in 30 plus years yet the resident hunters is 20x greater.Idaho needs to do nothing, much less cater to the demands of nonresidents. If you don't like it, quit applying.
Yup and that needs to change. It’s not fair to many people. Lots cannot be online trying to get a tag at 10am during the week. They need to make it draw and anything underdrawn will be first come first serve after draw.I’m a resident and don’t want a point system, but I’m also pretty sure the way they do the nonresident “waiting room” elk tag thing in December is the stupidest thing known to man. Who in their right mind thought that picking a business day at 10a for thousands of people to get a number and wait in a virtual line and hope their computer network doesn’t die and which also doesn’t allow a father and son to get a tag together was a good idea is just a moron.
I would be all for slashing the non res tags by half or betterYeah it does! As the resident population explodes you cannot continue to operate the same every thing as 40 years ago! The non resident quota hasn’t changed in 30 plus years yet the resident hunters is 20x greater.
which doesnt fix much of anything and the resident population continues to grow. The ratio of NR to R hunters 30 years ago isnt even close today. You cut half the NR tags and in 2 years that many of R hunters will occupy those same tags. Units need to be managed and its coming mark my words in 5 years IDFG will do something to resident pressure its coming.I would be all for slashing the non res tags by half or better
Lmao. I don't even know where to begin. Is this a parody account?Who cares? If they don't like it, they don't have to participate. There's a few states that I don't apply in because I don't like the odds or the way they do things. Nobody is forcing NR to do anything, they're choosing to participate in the process and then crying about the choice they made.
Are you under the impression that .Gov is a successful business?it's the complete opposite of how any successful businessman thinks.
No, and you residents are the ones defending them and what they do and getting mad at non residents who also complain about them. You don't see the irony?Are you under the impression that .Gov is a successful business?
The simple truth is that Idaho F&G is going to do whatever the farmers and ranchers persuade them to do. They don't care what you or I have to say and they prove it every chance they get.
The Farm Bureau controls the strings, and has for along time, when they say dance, the F&G dances!!I'm not mad at NR at all, I understand their frustration and I'm plenty frustrated about certain issues myself.
But here's the kicker, F&G doesn't care. It doesn't pay to whine about any of it because it's not going to change any time soon. When it has changed in the past and when it changes in the future it'll be based on farmers and ranchers input, not sportsman. If you don't have elk eating your crops then you don't exist except as a revenue source, I don't have crops therefore I'm also just a revenue source to them.
I don't defend their actions, I'm just a realist and don't complain about something that I have no imput on. I've been to the local meetings and trust me, they don't give a crap about the average hunter, it's all about keeping the ranchers and farmers happy and figuring out how to make more money to pay for crop damage.
Preach it sister! I hear you.The Farm Bureau controls the strings, and has for along time, when they say dance, the F&G dances!!
No.Anyone think it will be tomorrow?
Really farm/ranch issues is only thing F&G worries about? You sound ignorant when you make statements like that over and over. We get it you don’t like the influence they have in the department. RMEF had article years ago stating that Utah could have same number of elk as Colorado based on there habitat. The limiting factor is tolerance for private land depredation. People in different states think, act, and have different priorities. F&G can’t just give them the finger and tell them Elk first!I'm not mad at NR at all, I understand their frustration and I'm plenty frustrated about certain issues myself.
But here's the kicker, F&G doesn't care. It doesn't pay to whine about any of it because it's not going to change any time soon. When it has changed in the past and when it changes in the future it'll be based on farmers and ranchers input, not sportsman. If you don't have elk eating your crops then you don't exist except as a revenue source, I don't have crops therefore I'm also just a revenue source to them.
I don't defend their actions, I'm just a realist and don't complain about something that I have no imput on. I've been to the local meetings and trust me, they don't give a crap about the average hunter, it's all about keeping the ranchers and farmers happy and figuring out how to make more money to pay for crop damage.
There is a difference between saying that they do whatever farmers and ranchers want and that they want to reduce crop damage. If I had to pay a large portion of my budget to others due to damage, I would also be trying to reduce said damage. That’s just common senseF&G told me to my face that their #1 priority was to reduce crop damage caused by elk. Must be ignorance on my part.
Every meeting they have doesn’t start with crop damage, every project, every survey, every management plan, every budget doesn’t revolve around farmers and ranchers. Things could better here and they could be a lot worse! Credit were credit is due. It’s a forum criticism is Inevitable and to be expected. I apologize for “ignorant “.F&G told me to my face that their #1 priority was to reduce crop damage caused by elk. Must be ignorance on my part.
What makes you think AZ will start charging cards on Tuesday?AZ will hit cards Tuesday. ID needs to post so I can get my vacation requests in, I work with about 90 percent dudes and about 1/3 of them hunt. Last ones for me anyway. I did moose again because I love disappointment, but my hunting partner did deer elk pronghorn. Come on with it !!!
I hadn’t seen the email, thanks.They just sent email saying Monday was deadline to update cards. It always starts the next morning.
I think we've had this argument with you about several other states now. Once again, game management is a STATES issue period. There is massive precedence for this and it is settled. If you understood the founding of our nation at all, you would know that state borders are not imaginary at all but represent the boundaries of united, but individual sovereign states. As a NR, you are nothing more than a visiting revenue source, period. Don't like it, don't play.Lmao. I don't even know where to begin. Is this a parody account?
Answers like these are analogous to how governments think. And it's the complete opposite of how any successful businessman thinks.
I don't get how people think they "own" the entire state they live in. These same dudes are usually anti gov't Republicans that ***** about everything F&G does (some justly so) and here they are defending their local, corrupt governmental bodies that in reality DO NOT care about them AT ALL rather than defend fellow hunters in general because we live across an imaginary line. It's same braniacs that have a "come and take it" sticker next to a "blue lives matter" sticker on their truck.
Thank you for being so open about your Mental Illness!Lmao. I don't even know where to begin. Is this a parody account?
Answers like these are analogous to how governments think. And it's the complete opposite of how any successful businessman thinks.
I don't get how people think they "own" the entire state they live in. These same dudes are usually anti gov't Republicans that ***** about everything F&G does (some justly so) and here they are defending their local, corrupt governmental bodies that in reality DO NOT care about them AT ALL rather than defend fellow hunters in general because we live across an imaginary line. It's same braniacs that have a "come and take it" sticker next to a "blue lives matter" sticker on their truck.
BG may have be touched, hope he gets better with some counselingThank you for being so open about your Mental Illness!![]()
What have you been smoking?Good luck paying 1200 for an elk tag and 700 for a deer tag.
Wyoming is and if Res have to cover that revenue loss you will probably pay more in idaho. Careful what you wish for , you lose support from NR you won’t have the funds to fight off the Libs , then you won’t be huntin anything .What have you been smoking?
Do you believe that an Idaho NR elk tag is $1200, or that a NR deer tag is $700?????
This is true, starting in 2018 everything changed from hey its March I guess I will pick up an ID elk tag since AZ/WY didn't hit.... to now it is 3pm Dec 1 and guess what your not going to ID.We're not losing NR support, we're gaining it every year. They're lining up in droves to get a tag OTC and applying in the controlled hunt drawing.
A few years ago NR could buy an OTC tag the week before the season opened, now 99% of the tags are sold out Dec 1st. Demand is through the roof and it's not going away.
Why even worry about non residents??? The way Californians are bailing out of that pos and becoming residents has to be the elephant in the roomJust wait until the draw results come out, then the guys who didn't draw will be crying for a point system. Humans are argumentative by nature and hunters aren't immune to it.
You're not wrong at all.Why even worry about non residents??? The way Californians are bailing out of that pos and becoming residents has to be the elephant in the room
I totally disagree with your statement about needing non-residents to 'make ends meet'. Idaho residents have already proved this in the past with their willingness to pay NR prices for second deer tags.Not saying they are now, but going to have to triple to make up revenue loss. Other states are that price so it’s not unrealistic. Bottom line is states need non-residents to make ends meet.
Currently living in AZ where we are about 20 years ahead of ID on the Californication spectrum, I see a need for both Resident and NR interest in the state.I totally disagree with your statement about needing non-residents to 'make ends meet'. Idaho residents have already proved this in the past with their willingness to pay NR prices for second deer tags.
Offer up every NR tag to the residents as second tags at NR prices and watch them sell out like hotcakes.
I'm also curious why some folks think that NR hunting opportunity is a prerequisite for mutual support for the cause of hunting? Seems a bit petty to me. I would stand with fellow sportsmen from any state at any time, even if I didn't hunt there.
Back to the original point of this thread: Good luck to all in the draws, both NR and R. If you get the opportunity to hunt someone else's state, show some gratitude and respect. I bet it will make your hunt even more enjoyable.-----SS
I’d imagine most people leaving California are leaving cause it’s too expensive, there are places to live that would definitely be cheaperHas anyone considered that most of the people moving from California or any other state for that matter are probably going to your state because they are republicans and their voice can be heard and their votes will count. Not everyone from California or any other state that is blue are all libs. Just remember guys that there are tons of red counties in these states but we can’t compete with the population of the cities.
Has anyone considered that most of the people moving from California or any other state for that matter are probably going to your state because they are republicans and their voice can be heard and their votes will count. Not everyone from California or any other state that is blue are all libs. Just remember guys that there are tons of red counties in these states but we can’t compete with the population of the cities.
Here in Idaho, it was republican legislators who wanted to sell public land, republican legislators who screwed up the trespass laws for the benefit of the Wilks Brothers, etc, etc, etc. Simply electing republicans does not make good policy for hunters and anglers. We sportsmen need to do a better job of voting our issues and not blindly supporting people because of their affiliation.Has anyone considered that most of the people moving from California or any other state for that matter are probably going to your state because they are republicans and their voice can be heard and their votes will count. Not everyone from California or any other state that is blue are all libs. Just remember guys that there are tons of red counties in these states but we can’t compete with the population of the cities.
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