Utah 2023 Outlook

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My wife and kids ditched me for spring break, traitors. I guess someone had to stay home and pay the bills. Been bored as hell in the evenings with them gone, and all this white crap falling. Anyway, got my wheels spinning and thought I'd share my take on some of Utah's general units. Basically a copy cat of all the other generic Eastman's, huntin fool type write ups, with my own spin. Maybe it helps a non res make a decision on what units to check out. Maybe it comes off as complete BS. Keeping the mind busy, killing time.
Enjoy, or don't...

BOX ELDER: Unit has fair deer numbers and decent access. There are a few large CWMU's in some of the better areas of the unit. Some of the CWMU's can be worked around the fringes and provide decent hunting for medium size bucks. Some of the CWMU's offer access and landowner tags for a reasonable price. Area has average/good genetics, but most bucks don't make it to an age that brings out the area's true potential. Including the private land. Fair hunt for someone looking to just fill a tag. 130"-150" type bucks with a chance for something better. 2023 winter kill in this area should be much less than other units in northern Utah, and should likely improve habitat for the future. (Pre-winter rank 4, post winter 4).

CACHE: Unit has BIG buck potential and great genetics. Along with fair/good numbers. Every type of terrain you could want to hunt. From high, remote peaks to mahogany sage country. Unfortunately the winter of 2023 is going to have an extremely negative impact on the deer herd in this unit for years to come. Upward of 80% die offs in some portions of the unit. I wouldn't expect a very good 2023 deer season here. Keep your fingers crossed for the deer in the Cache unit. Some hunters are already advocating for eating tag soup for the sake of the deer. (Pre-winter rank scale 5, post winter 1)

OGDEN: Unit has fair numbers and has mediocre access for the public land hunter. The area has good buck potential. Some large tracts of private land consume much of the unit. Private access in this unit is worthwhile and could produce a better than average buck. Winter of 2023 is going to have a negative impact on the deer in this unit. Expect low numbers in 2023. 130"-150" type bucks on public, private access would give a reasonable chance at a 170"+ type buck depending on the property. (Pre-winter rank scale 4, post winter 2)

EAST CANYON: Unit traditionally has decent deer numbers along with great genetics. Some steep, thick oak country, rattlesnakes and cats like this unit. Some giants have came from the area over the years, but it has slipped significantly since Utah went to managing smaller units years ago. It has been managed in conjunction with the CHALK CREEK & MORGAN RICH units. IMO this was a huge mistake and should have been managed as it's own unit. Because all the public hunters flocked to the few public areas. That said this is changing in 2023... This entire region of Utah has exceptional mule deer habitat and can grow some great bucks, some with non typical racks. Unfortunately most of the public land is found in the East Canyon portion of the 3 units, and mature buck numbers have decreased significantly to almost non existent on public ground. 8-10 years ago you could find a few 190" type bucks in a summer. Now you'd be lucky to find one. Large private ranches and CWMU's cover most of the other 2 units. If you can obtain or buy access to some of these private area's hunting can be exceptional, and come with a legitimate chance at a 180" type buck. Unfortunately this area of Utah is also going to see major impacts from the 2023 winter. Mortality rate's will be very high with some area's projected to exceed a 70% loss. 140"-160" potential. For a lucky resident who draws CWMU or someone with good access, 180" potential. (Pre-winter rank scale 4, post winter rank 2).

CHALK CREEK/MORGAN RICH: Units previously attached to above unit. These traditionally are some of Utah's bread and butter area's for mule deer. The caveat, most the area is private property, and huge CWMU's. This can open up access for the lucky resident who draws a tag, or a hunter with deep pockets. Normally this region of the state could rival just about anywhere in the west for BIG bucks. Unfortunately this winter is going to be very hard on the deer in this area of the state. 70% winter kill in some portions. Those looking for a guided hunt would be well served to reach out to R&K, Bucks & Bulls, Wild Country. (Pre-winter rank scale 8 W/ access, post winter 5)

KAMAS: Unit traditionally has fair deer numbers, along with big buck genetics. The area is big country in a small package. Much of the unit is wooded and rocky. Some great bucks have came from this area of the state over the years, but should by no means be the expectation. It's a popular area for summer campers, recreation. Can feel busy during all seasons, but there is room to escape most of the crowds for the hunter willing to hike. General elk hunters will also fill this area because of it's proximity and open bull regulations. 140"-160" with a longshot chance at a great buck. (Pre-winter rank scale 4, post winter 2).

NORTH SLOPE: Unit traditionally has fair/poor deer numbers, along with mediocre genetics. It is large and vast, although sometimes it doesn't feel that way because of its popularity from hunters, hikers, and recreation. Some of the most pristine country in the entire state, and home to Utah's highest, Kings Peak. Mostly wooded and mountainous, lots of pole pines. Still hunting type country. Popular open bull elk area, more for that opportunity than the quality of the hunt. Same goes for deer. 120"-150" type bucks with a slim chance for a better 170"+. Some better deer country towards the northeast portion. Wyoming side of the border, the deer hunting and terrain gets significantly better. 2023 Winter is going to be rough on the deer herd in this area. 50% plus mortality in many areas of the unit. (Pre-winter rank scale 4, post winter 2).

SOUTH SLOPE: Unit traditionally has fair numbers by todays standards. Similar terrain to the North Slope, but much dryer on this side of the range. This area also has less roads and fewer access points than the North side of the Uintahs. I would say this is the most remote area of the state. Deer hunting on the south slope is generally better than the north side, including numbers and trophy potential. Winter is going to have an impact on the deer in this area, but not nearly as bad as the units further north. Years ago this area produced some great bucks and the genetics are there, but age class and numbers are low for the size and vastness of the area. This area should be much better than what it currently is IMO. Still a fair area for 130"-150" with an outside chance for something better. That said, there can be some giants on the private lands or near the duchesne river, but good luck getting the access. (Pre-winter rank scale 4, post winter 3)

WASATCH EAST: Unit has exceptional genetics, and some of the best mule deer habitat in the state. Unfortunately the state gives out way too many tags, along with a large portion of the unit having a 3 month long archery only season that comes with some very die hard archers. The word has been out on the Wasatch front for years now. gets a lot of attention for Utubers and such. The archery section of the unit can be a great hunt with some great bucks, but the competition, and crowds from all other outdoor enthusiast can take a lot of luster away from the hunting. This could be much improved if managers made you choose your archery season, and made the extended archery hunt its own hunt entirely. Rather than let anyone in the state with an archery tag hunt here during the rut. Many archery hunters put in for any archery tag they can draw, just so they can hunt the Wasatch after the general hunt closes. It's becoming more of a problem, that most likely will never get the backing or support to change. The remaining portion of the unit also has BIG buck potential along with some of the best deer habitat in the state. Tag numbers are very high, which has clearly had an impact on the mature bucks in the unit. Mountain lions are also thick on this range. This unit is one of a few that I believe going to sub units has had a negative impact. Just too much opportunity and too many tags for very many bucks to grow to there full potential. 145"-165" type bucks with a slim chance for a 180"+ type buck. 2023 winter is going to have a noticeable impact on this deer herd. (Pre-winter rank scale 6, post winter rank 4).

WASATCH WEST: Unit has good genetics and a decent/good deer herd for todays standards. Good habitat, (pines, aspen, sage) and mix of terrain for any hunter. This is another unit that see's a lot of pressure from hunters and recreationalists. Tag numbers seem reasonable for this unit. Hunting could be very good if we could string together 4 or 5 ideal winters, and do a better job managing predators, (which could be said for a bunch of units). Good unit for your average joe, weekend warrior looking to fill a tag. 130"-160" type bucks, Genetics are good/great, but lack of age class hinders unit to produce a more than reasonable chance at a solid 170"+ buck. (Pre-winter rank scale 6, post winter rank 4).

NINE MILE: I really don't know squat about this unit... Seems like it should have the make-up to be a good deer area, but out of my wheelhouse. Funny... guys that have it dialed in are probably thinking, "great, keep it that way putz".

Oquirrh-Stansbury: Unit has good genetics, good habitat, and decent/good access. Can be steep, and rocky, rattlesnakes and cats aren't behind every bush, but are around. Deer numbers are fair/good. This unit changes every year. Some years are decent for 150" type bucks and some years are poor. A lot of the country is rough and rocky. This is a unit that has been impacted by the long range crowd, muzzleloader and rifle have put a hurt on the 3 plus year old bucks in this unit. Rugged and deep enough in many spots big bucks have been able to evade hunters in the past, not so much now. Unit gets a lot of pressure for its size and relatively openness. Decent unit for just about any hunter, from die hard go getters, to weekend warriors. 130"-160" with an outside chance for 170"+ bucks. Private access on the oquirrh side can increase trophy potential significantly. But good luck gaining access. (Pre-winter rank scale 5, post winter 4).

WEST DESERT WEST: Unit has suffered from the extended drought Utah has been dealing with the past 6-8 years. This is one of the few units that the snowpack should really help the deer and antler growth. Very few deer for the size of the unit. Genetics are very good, and can produce large non typical bucks, but you are going to have to be extremely lucky, or hunt you butt off to make that happen. Access is good, snakes and chukars like this unit. One of the harder units in the state for hunting deer. This unit may interest you, If you don't mind seeing very few deer, but are looking for less competition from other hunters. You have a slim chance at a great buck. (Pre-winter rank scale 2, post winter rank 3).

WEST DESERT TINTIC: Unit is similar to the West desert west. Although better deer habitat, way more human traffic. Has good genetics, but bucks rarely make it to an age for that to be a factor. Decent/poor numbers. This unit will also benefit from the great snowpack. Can be an OK hunt for the hunter that just wants to get a chance to get out and hunt. The rare freak giant does show up once in while. Mediocre hunt for 120" 140" type bucks. Easy to draw tags. (Pre-winter rank scale 3, post winter rank 3).

NEBO: Unit has decent deer numbers and good genetics. This unit was getting better before this winter. 2023 will see some winter kill, but not major compared to a typical winter. Terrain options for everyone here, from high steep peaks, to low rolling country. Great access and a good general hunt by todays standards, especially for someone that just wants to hunt deer. 130"-160" type bucks with a slim chance for something special. (Pre-winter rank scale 5, post winter scale 4).

MANTI: Unit has fair deer numbers, along with good genetics. Area was improving before this winter. Huge fires opened up some of the canopy, and the animals and hunters have benefited from these burns. Unit will see some negative effects from the 2023 winter, but not catastrophic, and actually beneficial to some parts of this giant unit. This is the most terrain diverse unit in the state. Area could be exceptional deer hunting if they would thin out the tags. Popular area with lots of hunters and recreationalists, but rugged and vast enough that the dedicated hunter can escape most of that. Fun family unit, with options for everyone. Access is great. Domestic sheep can cause issue's here. 140"-160" type bucks, with a few exceptional animals harvested yearly. Not an area that is likely to produce a 190" typical, but could produce the rare non typical that gets to that size. (Pre-winter rank 5, post winter rank 5).

MONROE: Unit has decent/good deer numbers, and decent genetics. Lots of young bucks on this easy to hunt unit. 2023 winter will be harsher than average, but not catastrophic by any means. Fun, smallish, family unit. Terrain is diverse from high pines/aspens, to low cedar/sage. Access is very good. Coyotes impact the deer here. Small towns with everything you need close by. 130"-150" type bucks with a chance for better. Good success rates. (Pre-winter rank scale 5, post winter rank scale 5).

FISHLAKE: Unit has decent, improving deer numbers, at least by todays standards. 25 years ago this unit had high numbers of nice bucks throughout, and was a very fun area to hunt. Not so much now. Coyote's got out of control here years ago, and didn't do fawn recruitment any favors. That said unit has been getting better for bucks because of lower tag numbers the last handful of years. This unit has benefited going to smaller management units. 2023 winter shouldn't have a significantly negative impact on the deer here. There is a scenic highway that runs up and over the entire range. ATV trails also cover the unit. Both of which have impacted the quality of the hunting. Very scenic mountain range, with diverse habitat, and good access. Fun, more easy going type hunt. Decent success rates. Area can produce some good bucks, but not likely to find a 190"+ type buck here. 130"-160" type bucks with a few larger bucks around. (Pre-winter rank scale 4, post winter rank scale 5).

FILLMORE: Unit is long and skinny, but the terrain can get pretty steep, deep & rugged. Has poor/fair deer numbers, population should be much higher than it currently stands. Area has BIG buck potential. 2023 winter should actually benefit this unit. (Heaviest buck I've ever seen lived here) Access is good, with roads on top of the majority of the unit. You can find yourself down in a hole pretty quick here. Cats are plentiful, and have assisted heavily on "suppressing" the deer herd. Great, diverse deer habitat at all elevations. Could be exceptional with tag cuts and predator control. Still a fair hunt for most hunters. 140"-160" Could find a 180"+ buck here, but not likely. Unit's not near what it's full potential could be. (Pre-winter rank scale 4, post winter rank scale 5).

BEAVER: Unit has great potential, but for whatever reason has really struggled the past few years. Should be one of the top 3 or 4 general units in the state. Some of the best muley habitat from top to bottom in the state. BIG buck potential, you could find a unicorn 190"+ typical here. I will stress unicorn. Still, currently a decent unit. With terrain for anyone's hunting style, along with good access. 140"-160" type bucks, but even those are pretty rare right now. 180"+ potential. (Pre-winter rank scale 4, post winter rank scale 5). Fingers crossed...

DUTTON: Another unit that I have zero experience with. This area has an old history of some giant bucks, but it has been very lackluster for a long time now. Unit that I think should benefit from going to smaller units, but hasn't really yet from what I hear.

BOULDER: Another unit IMO that should be top 3-4 in the state, but has really been struggling the last handful of years. Definitely has BIG buck potential, and proves that yearly. Should contain a larger population of deer. Also a unit that you would think should benefit from the smaller management units, but for whatever reason has had its issue's. Huge, terrain diverse unit. The winter of 2023 should have a positive impact on the deer herd in this area. Awesome mountain range in Utah, lots of good fishing lakes and ATV trails. Something for every hunter here. Lots of guides hang out on this mountain for the large elk, and have things dialed in pretty well. Could also be a good option for a guy interested in being guided for a nice muley. (Pre-winter rank scale 4, post winter rank scale 5). Fingers crossed

PANGUITCH: Unit has good deer numbers, and good genetics. This area has slipped slightly, but is still a good unit by todays standards. It should and I expect it to get better post 2023 winter, if... the tag numbers don't increase (buck & doe). The area is diverse, access is good, and accommodating to just about any hunting style. Very little true high/open country here, more rolling mid mountain country. Lots of ATV trails through-out. Fun family style hunting, not a ton of area's a hunter can really get after it, and escape the crowds. I would include this area in the in the southern 1/3 of the state that has been Utah's mule deer strong hold for the last 25 years. One of the better general units in the state, Maybe top 4-5. 130"-160" type bucks with an outside chance for 170"+ (Pre-winter rank scale 6, post winter rank scale 6).

ABAJO MOUNTIAN: Unit has good deer numbers, and good genetics. Not the genetic potential of the few units to the west, but still very good, if the bucks can get some age on them. Problem with this unit is the good habitat area's are not that big, and harvest success rates are very good. Access to the populated deer areas are also very good. You could go into the desert looking for a unicorn and be rewarded, but that's a tall order. Fun hunt for someone that would be happy with 2-3 year old bucks. Archery and muzzleloader hunts are better than rifle hunting here IMO. One of the better general deer units. 130"-150" type bucks with an outside chance at 170"+. (Pre-winter rank 5, post winter rank 5).

LA SAL: Unit has good deer numbers, and good genetics. Although currently a 180"+ buck here would be a long shot. You would think with diversity, habitat, and geographic location this unit would regularly produce giant bucks, but the reality is, it hasn't done so consistently for awhile. Still a decent unit, and something for every hunters style, along with good access. Currently one of the better general units, especially with the extreme winter conditions the northern part of the state is experiencing. Lots of black bears in this unit. 130"- 160" type bucks with a outside chance for 170"+. (Pre-winter rank scale 5, post winter rank scale 5).

SOUTHWEST DESERT: Unit has been struggling to produce much of a deer population. Although it has BIG buck genetics, similar to those in neighboring units in Nevada. So for the die hard 190"+ trophy hunter this unit does carry that potential, and might be worth a hard look from someone with that mindset. But for the average joe, weekend warrior, it may not be your best choice. The winter of 2023 should greatly benefit the deer herd here. (Fingers crossed). 140"-160" type bucks, with a snowballs chance in hell of an absolute hogg, but... there is a chance. (Pre-winter rank scale 3, post winter rank 4).

ZION: Unit has one of the best deer herds in the state, along with some exceptional genetics. This would no question be the best general unit in the state if it weren't for the difficult terrain, and private land issues. Still a very good, top 3-4 general unit, capable of producing a 190" typical. Access is Mediocre, terrain and hunting pressure can make for tough hunting. I like the archery and muzzleloader dates for this unit, rifle hunt can be awesome, typically with lots of migrating deer. But making connecting on a better buck more luck than skill, and being in the right place at the right time. Another unit that should benefit from a massive snow year. 140"-165" type bucks with multiple better bucks harvested every year.

PINE VALLEY: Unit should be one of the top two general units in the state. Fair deer population, and great genetics, but severely miss managed IMO. Carrying capacity could and should be more. Huge unit in southwest Utah, great diversity of habitat, most of which is beneficial to mule deer. Great access. The drought has surely had negative impacts on the entire state, and this unit is drought susceptible, but it could be so much better than it's current condition. The 2023 winter should be beneficial and give the deer in this unit a nice boost. Hopefully management would agree. 6-7 years ago this unit was pumping out some solid critters. That said, still one of the top 4-5 general units in the state. Potential to be ranked 1 or 2. Good hunt for any buck, ability to produce something next level. 130"-160" type bucks, unit can grow 190"+ bucks. (Pre-winter rank scale 5, post winter rank 6)

Well, that's my take. Happy hunting!
 
Just to add color regarding winter kill up north… I just talked to the biologist for the Cache, and he said expecting 70-80% mortality for FAWNS, and about 20% mortality for adults. Not apocalyptic, but will definitely annihilate an age class of bucks in future years.
 
Just to add color regarding winter kill up north… I just talked to the biologist for the Cache, and he said expecting 70-80% mortality for FAWNS, and about 20% mortality for adults. Not apocalyptic, but will definitely annihilate an age class of bucks in future years.
I think that 20% mortality is low
 
You'd Best Reassess The South Slope!




My wife and kids ditched me for spring break, traitors. I guess someone had to stay home and pay the bills. Been bored as hell in the evenings with them gone, and all this white crap falling. Anyway, got my wheels spinning and thought I'd share my take on some of Utah's general units. Basically a copy cat of all the other generic Eastman's, huntin fool type write ups, with my own spin. Maybe it helps a non res make a decision on what units to check out. Maybe it comes off as complete BS. Keeping the mind busy, killing time.
Enjoy, or don't...

BOX ELDER: Unit has fair deer numbers and decent access. There are a few large CWMU's in some of the better areas of the unit. Some of the CWMU's can be worked around the fringes and provide decent hunting for medium size bucks. Some of the CWMU's offer access and landowner tags for a reasonable price. Area has average/good genetics, but most bucks don't make it to an age that brings out the area's true potential. Including the private land. Fair hunt for someone looking to just fill a tag. 130"-150" type bucks with a chance for something better. 2023 winter kill in this area should be much less than other units in northern Utah, and should likely improve habitat for the future. (Pre-winter rank 4, post winter 4).

CACHE: Unit has BIG buck potential and great genetics. Along with fair/good numbers. Every type of terrain you could want to hunt. From high, remote peaks to mahogany sage country. Unfortunately the winter of 2023 is going to have an extremely negative impact on the deer herd in this unit for years to come. Upward of 80% die offs in some portions of the unit. I wouldn't expect a very good 2023 deer season here. Keep your fingers crossed for the deer in the Cache unit. Some hunters are already advocating for eating tag soup for the sake of the deer. (Pre-winter rank scale 5, post winter 1)

OGDEN: Unit has fair numbers and has mediocre access for the public land hunter. The area has good buck potential. Some large tracts of private land consume much of the unit. Private access in this unit is worthwhile and could produce a better than average buck. Winter of 2023 is going to have a negative impact on the deer in this unit. Expect low numbers in 2023. 130"-150" type bucks on public, private access would give a reasonable chance at a 170"+ type buck depending on the property. (Pre-winter rank scale 4, post winter 2)

EAST CANYON: Unit traditionally has decent deer numbers along with great genetics. Some steep, thick oak country, rattlesnakes and cats like this unit. Some giants have came from the area over the years, but it has slipped significantly since Utah went to managing smaller units years ago. It has been managed in conjunction with the CHALK CREEK & MORGAN RICH units. IMO this was a huge mistake and should have been managed as it's own unit. Because all the public hunters flocked to the few public areas. That said this is changing in 2023... This entire region of Utah has exceptional mule deer habitat and can grow some great bucks, some with non typical racks. Unfortunately most of the public land is found in the East Canyon portion of the 3 units, and mature buck numbers have decreased significantly to almost non existent on public ground. 8-10 years ago you could find a few 190" type bucks in a summer. Now you'd be lucky to find one. Large private ranches and CWMU's cover most of the other 2 units. If you can obtain or buy access to some of these private area's hunting can be exceptional, and come with a legitimate chance at a 180" type buck. Unfortunately this area of Utah is also going to see major impacts from the 2023 winter. Mortality rate's will be very high with some area's projected to exceed a 70% loss. 140"-160" potential. For a lucky resident who draws CWMU or someone with good access, 180" potential. (Pre-winter rank scale 4, post winter rank 2).

CHALK CREEK/MORGAN RICH: Units previously attached to above unit. These traditionally are some of Utah's bread and butter area's for mule deer. The caveat, most the area is private property, and huge CWMU's. This can open up access for the lucky resident who draws a tag, or a hunter with deep pockets. Normally this region of the state could rival just about anywhere in the west for BIG bucks. Unfortunately this winter is going to be very hard on the deer in this area of the state. 70% winter kill in some portions. Those looking for a guided hunt would be well served to reach out to R&K, Bucks & Bulls, Wild Country. (Pre-winter rank scale 8 W/ access, post winter 5)

KAMAS: Unit traditionally has fair deer numbers, along with big buck genetics. The area is big country in a small package. Much of the unit is wooded and rocky. Some great bucks have came from this area of the state over the years, but should by no means be the expectation. It's a popular area for summer campers, recreation. Can feel busy during all seasons, but there is room to escape most of the crowds for the hunter willing to hike. General elk hunters will also fill this area because of it's proximity and open bull regulations. 140"-160" with a longshot chance at a great buck. (Pre-winter rank scale 4, post winter 2).

NORTH SLOPE: Unit traditionally has fair/poor deer numbers, along with mediocre genetics. It is large and vast, although sometimes it doesn't feel that way because of its popularity from hunters, hikers, and recreation. Some of the most pristine country in the entire state, and home to Utah's highest, Kings Peak. Mostly wooded and mountainous, lots of pole pines. Still hunting type country. Popular open bull elk area, more for that opportunity than the quality of the hunt. Same goes for deer. 120"-150" type bucks with a slim chance for a better 170"+. Some better deer country towards the northeast portion. Wyoming side of the border, the deer hunting and terrain gets significantly better. 2023 Winter is going to be rough on the deer herd in this area. 50% plus mortality in many areas of the unit. (Pre-winter rank scale 4, post winter 2).

SOUTH SLOPE: Unit traditionally has fair numbers by todays standards. Similar terrain to the North Slope, but much dryer on this side of the range. This area also has less roads and fewer access points than the North side of the Uintahs. I would say this is the most remote area of the state. Deer hunting on the south slope is generally better than the north side, including numbers and trophy potential. Winter is going to have an impact on the deer in this area, but not nearly as bad as the units further north. Years ago this area produced some great bucks and the genetics are there, but age class and numbers are low for the size and vastness of the area. This area should be much better than what it currently is IMO. Still a fair area for 130"-150" with an outside chance for something better. That said, there can be some giants on the private lands or near the duchesne river, but good luck getting the access. (Pre-winter rank scale 4, post winter 3)

WASATCH EAST: Unit has exceptional genetics, and some of the best mule deer habitat in the state. Unfortunately the state gives out way too many tags, along with a large portion of the unit having a 3 month long archery only season that comes with some very die hard archers. The word has been out on the Wasatch front for years now. gets a lot of attention for Utubers and such. The archery section of the unit can be a great hunt with some great bucks, but the competition, and crowds from all other outdoor enthusiast can take a lot of luster away from the hunting. This could be much improved if managers made you choose your archery season, and made the extended archery hunt its own hunt entirely. Rather than let anyone in the state with an archery tag hunt here during the rut. Many archery hunters put in for any archery tag they can draw, just so they can hunt the Wasatch after the general hunt closes. It's becoming more of a problem, that most likely will never get the backing or support to change. The remaining portion of the unit also has BIG buck potential along with some of the best deer habitat in the state. Tag numbers are very high, which has clearly had an impact on the mature bucks in the unit. Mountain lions are also thick on this range. This unit is one of a few that I believe going to sub units has had a negative impact. Just too much opportunity and too many tags for very many bucks to grow to there full potential. 145"-165" type bucks with a slim chance for a 180"+ type buck. 2023 winter is going to have a noticeable impact on this deer herd. (Pre-winter rank scale 6, post winter rank 4).

WASATCH WEST: Unit has good genetics and a decent/good deer herd for todays standards. Good habitat, (pines, aspen, sage) and mix of terrain for any hunter. This is another unit that see's a lot of pressure from hunters and recreationalists. Tag numbers seem reasonable for this unit. Hunting could be very good if we could string together 4 or 5 ideal winters, and do a better job managing predators, (which could be said for a bunch of units). Good unit for your average joe, weekend warrior looking to fill a tag. 130"-160" type bucks, Genetics are good/great, but lack of age class hinders unit to produce a more than reasonable chance at a solid 170"+ buck. (Pre-winter rank scale 6, post winter rank 4).

NINE MILE: I really don't know squat about this unit... Seems like it should have the make-up to be a good deer area, but out of my wheelhouse. Funny... guys that have it dialed in are probably thinking, "great, keep it that way putz".

Oquirrh-Stansbury: Unit has good genetics, good habitat, and decent/good access. Can be steep, and rocky, rattlesnakes and cats aren't behind every bush, but are around. Deer numbers are fair/good. This unit changes every year. Some years are decent for 150" type bucks and some years are poor. A lot of the country is rough and rocky. This is a unit that has been impacted by the long range crowd, muzzleloader and rifle have put a hurt on the 3 plus year old bucks in this unit. Rugged and deep enough in many spots big bucks have been able to evade hunters in the past, not so much now. Unit gets a lot of pressure for its size and relatively openness. Decent unit for just about any hunter, from die hard go getters, to weekend warriors. 130"-160" with an outside chance for 170"+ bucks. Private access on the oquirrh side can increase trophy potential significantly. But good luck gaining access. (Pre-winter rank scale 5, post winter 4).

WEST DESERT WEST: Unit has suffered from the extended drought Utah has been dealing with the past 6-8 years. This is one of the few units that the snowpack should really help the deer and antler growth. Very few deer for the size of the unit. Genetics are very good, and can produce large non typical bucks, but you are going to have to be extremely lucky, or hunt you butt off to make that happen. Access is good, snakes and chukars like this unit. One of the harder units in the state for hunting deer. This unit may interest you, If you don't mind seeing very few deer, but are looking for less competition from other hunters. You have a slim chance at a great buck. (Pre-winter rank scale 2, post winter rank 3).

WEST DESERT TINTIC: Unit is similar to the West desert west. Although better deer habitat, way more human traffic. Has good genetics, but bucks rarely make it to an age for that to be a factor. Decent/poor numbers. This unit will also benefit from the great snowpack. Can be an OK hunt for the hunter that just wants to get a chance to get out and hunt. The rare freak giant does show up once in while. Mediocre hunt for 120" 140" type bucks. Easy to draw tags. (Pre-winter rank scale 3, post winter rank 3).

NEBO: Unit has decent deer numbers and good genetics. This unit was getting better before this winter. 2023 will see some winter kill, but not major compared to a typical winter. Terrain options for everyone here, from high steep peaks, to low rolling country. Great access and a good general hunt by todays standards, especially for someone that just wants to hunt deer. 130"-160" type bucks with a slim chance for something special. (Pre-winter rank scale 5, post winter scale 4).

MANTI: Unit has fair deer numbers, along with good genetics. Area was improving before this winter. Huge fires opened up some of the canopy, and the animals and hunters have benefited from these burns. Unit will see some negative effects from the 2023 winter, but not catastrophic, and actually beneficial to some parts of this giant unit. This is the most terrain diverse unit in the state. Area could be exceptional deer hunting if they would thin out the tags. Popular area with lots of hunters and recreationalists, but rugged and vast enough that the dedicated hunter can escape most of that. Fun family unit, with options for everyone. Access is great. Domestic sheep can cause issue's here. 140"-160" type bucks, with a few exceptional animals harvested yearly. Not an area that is likely to produce a 190" typical, but could produce the rare non typical that gets to that size. (Pre-winter rank 5, post winter rank 5).

MONROE: Unit has decent/good deer numbers, and decent genetics. Lots of young bucks on this easy to hunt unit. 2023 winter will be harsher than average, but not catastrophic by any means. Fun, smallish, family unit. Terrain is diverse from high pines/aspens, to low cedar/sage. Access is very good. Coyotes impact the deer here. Small towns with everything you need close by. 130"-150" type bucks with a chance for better. Good success rates. (Pre-winter rank scale 5, post winter rank scale 5).

FISHLAKE: Unit has decent, improving deer numbers, at least by todays standards. 25 years ago this unit had high numbers of nice bucks throughout, and was a very fun area to hunt. Not so much now. Coyote's got out of control here years ago, and didn't do fawn recruitment any favors. That said unit has been getting better for bucks because of lower tag numbers the last handful of years. This unit has benefited going to smaller management units. 2023 winter shouldn't have a significantly negative impact on the deer here. There is a scenic highway that runs up and over the entire range. ATV trails also cover the unit. Both of which have impacted the quality of the hunting. Very scenic mountain range, with diverse habitat, and good access. Fun, more easy going type hunt. Decent success rates. Area can produce some good bucks, but not likely to find a 190"+ type buck here. 130"-160" type bucks with a few larger bucks around. (Pre-winter rank scale 4, post winter rank scale 5).

FILLMORE: Unit is long and skinny, but the terrain can get pretty steep, deep & rugged. Has poor/fair deer numbers, population should be much higher than it currently stands. Area has BIG buck potential. 2023 winter should actually benefit this unit. (Heaviest buck I've ever seen lived here) Access is good, with roads on top of the majority of the unit. You can find yourself down in a hole pretty quick here. Cats are plentiful, and have assisted heavily on "suppressing" the deer herd. Great, diverse deer habitat at all elevations. Could be exceptional with tag cuts and predator control. Still a fair hunt for most hunters. 140"-160" Could find a 180"+ buck here, but not likely. Unit's not near what it's full potential could be. (Pre-winter rank scale 4, post winter rank scale 5).

BEAVER: Unit has great potential, but for whatever reason has really struggled the past few years. Should be one of the top 3 or 4 general units in the state. Some of the best muley habitat from top to bottom in the state. BIG buck potential, you could find a unicorn 190"+ typical here. I will stress unicorn. Still, currently a decent unit. With terrain for anyone's hunting style, along with good access. 140"-160" type bucks, but even those are pretty rare right now. 180"+ potential. (Pre-winter rank scale 4, post winter rank scale 5). Fingers crossed...

DUTTON: Another unit that I have zero experience with. This area has an old history of some giant bucks, but it has been very lackluster for a long time now. Unit that I think should benefit from going to smaller units, but hasn't really yet from what I hear.

BOULDER: Another unit IMO that should be top 3-4 in the state, but has really been struggling the last handful of years. Definitely has BIG buck potential, and proves that yearly. Should contain a larger population of deer. Also a unit that you would think should benefit from the smaller management units, but for whatever reason has had its issue's. Huge, terrain diverse unit. The winter of 2023 should have a positive impact on the deer herd in this area. Awesome mountain range in Utah, lots of good fishing lakes and ATV trails. Something for every hunter here. Lots of guides hang out on this mountain for the large elk, and have things dialed in pretty well. Could also be a good option for a guy interested in being guided for a nice muley. (Pre-winter rank scale 4, post winter rank scale 5). Fingers crossed

PANGUITCH: Unit has good deer numbers, and good genetics. This area has slipped slightly, but is still a good unit by todays standards. It should and I expect it to get better post 2023 winter, if... the tag numbers don't increase (buck & doe). The area is diverse, access is good, and accommodating to just about any hunting style. Very little true high/open country here, more rolling mid mountain country. Lots of ATV trails through-out. Fun family style hunting, not a ton of area's a hunter can really get after it, and escape the crowds. I would include this area in the in the southern 1/3 of the state that has been Utah's mule deer strong hold for the last 25 years. One of the better general units in the state, Maybe top 4-5. 130"-160" type bucks with an outside chance for 170"+ (Pre-winter rank scale 6, post winter rank scale 6).

ABAJO MOUNTIAN: Unit has good deer numbers, and good genetics. Not the genetic potential of the few units to the west, but still very good, if the bucks can get some age on them. Problem with this unit is the good habitat area's are not that big, and harvest success rates are very good. Access to the populated deer areas are also very good. You could go into the desert looking for a unicorn and be rewarded, but that's a tall order. Fun hunt for someone that would be happy with 2-3 year old bucks. Archery and muzzleloader hunts are better than rifle hunting here IMO. One of the better general deer units. 130"-150" type bucks with an outside chance at 170"+. (Pre-winter rank 5, post winter rank 5).

LA SAL: Unit has good deer numbers, and good genetics. Although currently a 180"+ buck here would be a long shot. You would think with diversity, habitat, and geographic location this unit would regularly produce giant bucks, but the reality is, it hasn't done so consistently for awhile. Still a decent unit, and something for every hunters style, along with good access. Currently one of the better general units, especially with the extreme winter conditions the northern part of the state is experiencing. Lots of black bears in this unit. 130"- 160" type bucks with a outside chance for 170"+. (Pre-winter rank scale 5, post winter rank scale 5).

SOUTHWEST DESERT: Unit has been struggling to produce much of a deer population. Although it has BIG buck genetics, similar to those in neighboring units in Nevada. So for the die hard 190"+ trophy hunter this unit does carry that potential, and might be worth a hard look from someone with that mindset. But for the average joe, weekend warrior, it may not be your best choice. The winter of 2023 should greatly benefit the deer herd here. (Fingers crossed). 140"-160" type bucks, with a snowballs chance in hell of an absolute hogg, but... there is a chance. (Pre-winter rank scale 3, post winter rank 4).

ZION: Unit has one of the best deer herds in the state, along with some exceptional genetics. This would no question be the best general unit in the state if it weren't for the difficult terrain, and private land issues. Still a very good, top 3-4 general unit, capable of producing a 190" typical. Access is Mediocre, terrain and hunting pressure can make for tough hunting. I like the archery and muzzleloader dates for this unit, rifle hunt can be awesome, typically with lots of migrating deer. But making connecting on a better buck more luck than skill, and being in the right place at the right time. Another unit that should benefit from a massive snow year. 140"-165" type bucks with multiple better bucks harvested every year.

PINE VALLEY: Unit should be one of the top two general units in the state. Fair deer population, and great genetics, but severely miss managed IMO. Carrying capacity could and should be more. Huge unit in southwest Utah, great diversity of habitat, most of which is beneficial to mule deer. Great access. The drought has surely had negative impacts on the entire state, and this unit is drought susceptible, but it could be so much better than it's current condition. The 2023 winter should be beneficial and give the deer in this unit a nice boost. Hopefully management would agree. 6-7 years ago this unit was pumping out some solid critters. That said, still one of the top 4-5 general units in the state. Potential to be ranked 1 or 2. Good hunt for any buck, ability to produce something next level. 130"-160" type bucks, unit can grow 190"+ bucks. (Pre-winter rank scale 5, post winter rank 6)

Well, that's my take. Happy hunting!
 
I was waiting for that response from you… haha. everyone has to take this in context. I agree every unit in the state is nothing like it was in the 80’s. Sadly this is the world we live in now days, and relative to the times. I tried my best to rank, and portray the units and expectations of todays era. I don’t like the standards and expectations of today anymore than yourself. Very amateur write up. Some of my analysts are right on, some are probably off a ways. Might benefit some or give another perspective was my intention. Take them with a grain of salt, but might give a little more perspective. ??
 
I'll Agree With your Last Part of What You Posted!



I was waiting for that response from you… haha. everyone has to take this in context. I agree every unit in the state is nothing like it was in the 80’s. Sadly this is the world we live in now days, and relative to the times. I tried my best to rank, and portray the units and expectations of todays era. I don’t like the standards and expectations of today anymore than yourself. Very amateur write up. Some of my analysts are right on, some are probably off a ways. Might benefit some or give another perspective was my intention. Take them with a grain of salt, but might give a little more perspective. ??
 
Pine Valley haha it would be nice if you could locate a 150-160. It’s mostly 90% small bucks. The gene pool is there and it could be a great unit but it’s not managed that way.
 
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Man, I like it all, archery/muzz/rifle. I guess whatever I can get a tag for.
I think just about any general unit south of Spanish Fork could end up being pretty decent this season. Been seeing a lot of deer driving that entire stretch, between Spanish and St. George.
Northern Utah is looking rough. Plus, so much of the good deer habitat in the northern 1/3 of the state is private.
I don’t feel any general unit is really heads and shoulders above another right now. Success is probably much more dependent on the hunter’s knowledge of the unit itself.
Take guys like yourself for example, who have areas dialed in. They seem to do well, no matter what the general consensus of the unit is.
Some of my best bucks came from units that reports made sound pretty bleak.
I’m hopeful a few units throughout the State can ratchet up a notch or two the next couple years. Great moisture this year. Maybe we get lucky and string together a couple decent winters in favor of the deer. Predator control keeps getting more aggressive. I’m glad to see they are taking more action with the cats.
It’s tough, Utah has good genetics all over the state. It’d be nice to see a few more bucks make it to their full potential.
I feel crazy even saying this, but I think the DWR is actually doing a decent job with the hand they’ve been dealt.
Seeing what Colorado is doing lately makes a mule deer hunter sick. Never would have thought, but I think Utah’s managers are doing a better job. Would never had said that 10 years ago.
I heard earlier “pine valley 150-160 haha”. Old man did alright down there, wish I had a picture of the one he missed 30 minutes before. I bring that up because every unit in the state has multiple 160”+ bucks.
By no means, IMO are the general deer units “good” right now. But I don’t think we are too far off. 3-4 years of the stars aligning and things could be looking pretty decent in a bunch of units.
 
I was waiting for that response from you… haha. everyone has to take this in context. I agree every unit in the state is nothing like it was in the 80’s. Sadly this is the world we live in now days, and relative to the times. I tried my best to rank, and portray the units and expectations of todays era. I don’t like the standards and expectations of today anymore than yourself. Very amateur write up. Some of my analysts are right on, some are probably off a ways. Might benefit some or give another perspective was my intention. Take them with a grain of salt, but might give a little more perspective. ??
I appreciate your write-up man! And that you graded on a curve for realistic hunts today. I wasn't old enough to hunt before the heyday of the early 90s ended, or even the mid-2000s. All I know are the deer populations we have in the last decade, so I found this to be an interesting and insightful breakdown. Thanks for doing it.
 
Call your wife.

In the units I frequent, you did a pretty nice job. I think most of the predictions are going to be way off this year.

Lots of dead fawns, but the feed, especially the early green up, will be unbelievable, and the bucks should be great. We will have a lost age class.

But fawns born this year, will hit the ground with tons of nutrients to get them up to speed much quicker than the last few years fawns.

This was pretty cool though.
 
Pretty solid write up! I think you switched the Wasatch East and West though. Fun to read, nice work!
 
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Man, I like it all, archery/muzz/rifle. I guess whatever I can get a tag for.
I think just about any general unit south of Spanish Fork could end up being pretty decent this season. Been seeing a lot of deer driving that entire stretch, between Spanish and St. George.
Northern Utah is looking rough. Plus, so much of the good deer habitat in the northern 1/3 of the state is private.
I don’t feel any general unit is really heads and shoulders above another right now. Success is probably much more dependent on the hunter’s knowledge of the unit itself.
Take guys like yourself for example, who have areas dialed in. They seem to do well, no matter what the general consensus of the unit is.
Some of my best bucks came from units that reports made sound pretty bleak.
I’m hopeful a few units throughout the State can ratchet up a notch or two the next couple years. Great moisture this year. Maybe we get lucky and string together a couple decent winters in favor of the deer. Predator control keeps getting more aggressive. I’m glad to see they are taking more action with the cats.
It’s tough, Utah has good genetics all over the state. It’d be nice to see a few more bucks make it to their full potential.
I feel crazy even saying this, but I think the DWR is actually doing a decent job with the hand they’ve been dealt.
Seeing what Colorado is doing lately makes a mule deer hunter sick. Never would have thought, but I think Utah’s managers are doing a better job. Would never had said that 10 years ago.
I heard earlier “pine valley 150-160 haha”. Old man did alright down there, wish I had a picture of the one he missed 30 minutes before. I bring that up because every unit in the state has multiple 160”+ bucks.
By no means, IMO are the general deer units “good” right now. But I don’t think we are too far off. 3-4 years of the stars aligning and things could be looking pretty decent in a bunch of units.
I need to pick a hunt soon. Been getting Pine Valley the last couple years, but haven’t hunted.
 
Check units that got the most snow and low temps.
That might help find a unit that got a hugh winter kill.
 
Just to add color regarding winter kill up north… I just talked to the biologist for the Cache, and he said expecting 70-80% mortality for FAWNS, and about 20% mortality for adults. Not apocalyptic, but will definitely annihilate an age class of bucks in future years.
It just removed all of the 2024 2 points. Life will go on.
 
Don't be hating on the old hunter We all will get there sooner or late and I will road hunt if I can't walk the mtns under I go under the ground.
 
Take this from an "Old Bird", I have taken the same route every year within a week of same yearly time period. I have done this for to many years to count. This was done about two hours before sunset and we would ride the exact same route. We would count fifty buck to seventy buck those early years. The last five years it has been ten to fifteen buck and this year it was a count of two buck. We went back one week later and again we counted two buck. To be fair one of the buck was a different buck. This is in the Monroe unit and I know my eye sight is not what it used to be, but it is better than that. Shame on the people in charge of our deer herds and shame on you young hunters for not being more pro-active with our deer herds.
 
Just for your information cannonball. More than one buck is called bucks. Example: I seen ten bucks, not I seen ten buck. Sounds like somebody from the city.
 
Blame it on to my age. I know the difference, just don't proof read. My sentence structures are sometimes deplorable. I know that too and I am from the country. To make a point of those types of things, I'm guessing you are one of the young hunters who does nothing to help the deer herd. I am asking forgiveness if I am wrong.:)
 
The plural of deer is deer. This word is an irregular plural noun The noun deer is both the singular and the plural They saw one deer or They saw two million deer Deer is the preferred plural form of deer, although deers (rarely used) is also an accepted plural

The plural form of buck is bucks.
 
I wish I was young again. But maybe not considering where this country is going. Everything is good cannonball I was just messing with ya.
 
Cannonball your point was well taken. Just to the west of the Monroe unit is the Beaver unit where I frequent with the same kind of results. Deer numbers are down in the same way you describe. Interesting enough these two units were recommended to receive more tags. Total bucks way down. Total deer way down. I am one of the old guys too and looks like good old common sense and eye sight are not worth anything.
 
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