It’s a good one.They moved it to be more in favor of the elk rut is the only explanation I can come up with
Not sure why dome states start earlier, but lots of guys like velvet.Why do the other states start so early? I like my deer hard horned.
Bucks become a lot harder to bowhunt when they strip the velvet that’s for sure…Why do the other states start so early? I like my deer hard horned.
You can always add the velvet back on.Not sure why dome states start earlier, but lots of guys like velvet.
You can always strip the velvet off if it's not your thing, but that's not really an option if you like the furry stuff.
Fake velvet never looks as good as the real thing that has been preserved the right way. Its gotten better though.You can always add the velvet back on.
True. Coloring antlers never looks the same as natural either.Fake velvet never looks as good as the real thing that has been preserved the right way. Its gotten better though.
yeah you are full of crap. The CBA was pushing hard for an earlier opening date for Deer. We had good support at first. Then the state pulled that as an option and left us with status quo or moving ahead with the dates in favor of the elk season.What you don’t like the opener on the busiest weekend in the backcountry or Labor Day??
Since you asked…
The change pushed through at the last sec and had a huge impact on archery deer hunting.. Degrading the season to the point even die hard archery hunters are asking it is even worth hunting deer archery?
Or every deer hunter hunts the first week and as close as the season is to muzzy and rifle in some places 3 - 4 days after archery guys are hunting w the muzzy and rifle guys. Other places you get maybe a week before muzzy. Add in the biggest user group or rec folks on the opener and crowding has gotten to the point of even guys like me are asking is it worth it..
Flat out the old archaic members of the CBA only care about elk. As well as fighting the loosing battle of keeping otc for elk. Or to be clear it is the “elk only” cba.. The ass also wanted a floating start date for the retired guys so they don’t have to deal w weekend crowds on the opener. For real those are the reasons…
The elk only ASS knew they were screwing over deer hunters and simply don’t care. When I pointed it out to the board I was told to get bent. Brought it up again and was branded a “arrogant rebel bastard” by the cba board.. Or the cba cares nothing about anything other than elk and maybe a banquet or summer shoot…
Is what it is and just shows the cba is worthless or could care less about pretty much anything other than otc elk.
Thanks again Colorado Bowhunters Ass..
Facts - Co hasn’t done bow hunters any favors especially when it comes to deer.Bucks become a lot harder to bowhunt when they strip the velvet that’s for sure…
Sorry but you are still wrong. The pressure to change the season dates started outside the CBA. I know this because it was the CPW that started the issue. The CBA in response to the date change started the survey and was initially pushing for the early open of deer and a later date for elk. The state shot that down. Period. I watched as it happened… So given the no go on the states side the options were status quo or a more favorable date for the elk.Wow elk tell me how ya really feel ?.
Now I may be just be idiot but at least I did not need help finding = well bucks for my family in 33 ???. Now am I lying about this as well ????
Now it is clear we disagree but let’s look at your “facts” from where this idiot sits….
Fact 1. Cpw preferred status quo for archery is a flat out fact. The cpw did not want to change the season dates…. Now Cba did and was not willing to accept status quo.. Or it is a fact the cba was the driving factor in the “elk only” change to the seasons and in the real world removed the best 5 days of deer hunting.. The fact is the cba choose elk over deer hunter and did not care enough to change their position. It is ok but they should own this decision as they made it clear as day…
It is real simple the FACT remains deer hunters lost due to a change pushed by the cba and not the cpw. Or if the cba had not pushed the change we would have status quo = this is an undeniable fact. Elk hunters gained what they think is a better week of hunting right in the middle of the rut in September deer hunters lost the best 5 days. Undeniable even to an idiot like me……
Archery deer hunters lost the best 5 days of the deer season for at least 5 years. The Fact is this change mash n smashed all the early seasons together making extreme crowding a real issue. Another fact is that not even an idiot like me hunts deer the last week of September we are all packed into the first week or til muzzy starts = so it is a fact in the real world deer hunters lost the best 5+ days of the season. While increasing both crowding and user conflicts. The fact is as you said the cba choose elk over deer and told “idiot” deer hunters to shut up n get bent…
Fact 2. That “survey” the cba sent out was laughable or would not even pass academic mustard at any of the most liberal colleges here in your favorite state of Co. It was a leading survey just like the 75-25% the cpw juat offered. If you can’t see that well I am not the only idiot I the room.
Fact 3. The cpw could care less about rifle otc somehow being connected to to limiting archery elk. They are 2 separate things. Bowhunters rightfully sound like entitled whiners talking about connecting archery otc to rifle otc. Rifle and archery are not connected in the eyes of the cpw and they never will be no matter how many fits the cba throws.
Fact 4. Man how many 1 point or low point units have you even archery elk hunted lately or ever? Real question for ya….
There is a group that will say keep otc so I can save points while I hunt, hunt every year, increase point creep, and then hunt a limited unit sometime. Another group hunts low point units as the understand they dynamics of overcrowded otc units.
I am not and have never been in the keep otc at all costs…. As I believe archery elk is better in limited units. Even your precious surveys are now saying more residents want limited archery hunting. Some of us actually go to places like Durango, Ark River valley, and Gunnison. I talk w a lot of resident or actuall generational locals that live in co = not folks who just bounce around on a whim. Almost all to a man think archery is better limited. While this puts us “idiot” “bastards” at odds w the very limited perspective of the cba I find it the norm in many areas of Colorado.
I will stop short of calling anyone an idiot as it is not in good taste but you are right there are many facts out there some flat undeniable no matter how many names you call folks elk………
Yep. It was all but given that we could get it done. But as you said it was pulled from under us. I remember the rep also saying he looked at the Aug 15 date as very easy to accomplish. Then once the ball got really rolling it was not even an option.You CBA haters are full of it. I recall the the DOW rep at the time was very optimistic about an August 15th opener but that was jerked out from under us via the WC and the Division.
Archery opens the 2nd, not the 1st and you can thank the CWC and the Division for that one too.
Exactly what we’re seeing now with this last survey 80/20 etc.Yep. It was all but given that we could get it done. But as you said it was pulled from under us. I remember the rep also saying he looked at the Aug 15 date as very easy to accomplish. Then once the ball got really rolling it was not even an option.
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