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WHY TRUMP???

Im a Family man, a sportsman, a hunter, a fisherman, a camper, backpacker, a blue collar worker. I worked hard for everything i've earned. I have spent my entire life in the outdoors and I consider myself a honest stand up guy, I grew up when u could ride down the highway in the back of a truck, before pagers, beepers, cell phones, I remember using old rotary phones. Im not a old fart but Im no spring chicken either. I do my best to do the right thing, treat others with the respect they deserve if they earned it and try to embrace the views of other people.

I remember when America was great....and its not now and will never be if we continue on the path we are going on. The division in this country is greater than it has ever been. How can I support someone that is ripping this country apart and the driving forces that keep us united and great. How can I stand by and watch the sacrifices that have been made to make this the greatest country on earth be flushed down the toilet. How can I ignore all the service members that have lost there lives to keep us safe, and how can I say who cares to the allies who have died along American in are fight to be the best. There have been generations of sacrifices that made us great. What are we tearing it down for??? For Trumps vision of how the world should work??? In three year he's proven to fail on about everything he's tried to accomplish, except giving huge tax breaks to the elitist you hate, and trying to get you to believe that our proven enemies over time are now our buddies and the real enemy is your fellow American. He's the only president in the history of our country, who refused to try to united us for the better good of all.

He has turned on everyone who has stood up to him even when they were in the right. He has bowed down like a coward to our enemies. He's is tuff on nothing. tuff on CHINA, HA.....China owns him..... Tuff on Russia, HA...he Putins little B*&CH.

I have a hard time buying into Trumps BS. I have lurked in bowels of MM political forum for a while now. I try to be open minded and hear all sides. Typically hunters are very good at connecting the dots.Not on this one. to all that love him...why??? what am I missing??

At times I see is a bunch of Monday morning quarterbacks trying to defend a man who constantly shoots himself in the foot. I see articles posted that try to pass the blame of all his failures on other people and other entities from non credible sources. I see the most feeble attempts to try to right his proven wrongs. I don't get it.

I see a lot of right wing, left wing BS on here. For me its quite simple, Listen to what he says. I have been listening to him from day one of his campaign the only conclusion I can come up with is that he's is full of S$%T.

In his campaign he said:

Hire american workers..... his businesses were proven to hire foreign and undocumented workers after he was elected.....Totally hypercritical. how can I respect that??? How can you???

He said manufacture in America... his S@#t is made in CHINA and elsewhere around the world. Totally Hypercritical. How can I respect that??? How can you respect That???

He said the system is rigged.... Thats right, he rigged it with the help of his scumbag friends, the Russians, and Wikileaks. How many times did he and his campaign team say that in no way shape or form that he or anyone in his campaign was working with Russians or any Russian entities or in contact with them. Yes he was cleared of colluding with the Russian Government. But it was proven that his hand were tied with many Russians and people connected to the Russian power houses and Wikileaks. HE Lied to your face!!

He says mexico will pay for the wall. I can't believe ignorant Americans cheered and believed that. Even when the GOP controlled everything he didn't get his wall funding. How can you respect that??

How many of his cronies are proven to be convicted liars and felons?? How can I respect that??? How can you??

I don't get it. This man is a elite city slicker, he was born with a gold spoon in his mouth. He Sh&$S on a gold plated toilet. He's F%&C*D every blue collar company he could while building his empire. His companies have been proven to be scams and lost lawsuits that prove it. how can I respect that ???? how can YOU??? he cant even get a loan in this country because all the major US financial institution know he's a crook. How can I respect that???

As president:

He cries out that chain migration needs to be stoped. weeks later his foreigner wifes family become citizens under chain migration. What a hypocrite!!! how can I respect that??? how can you???

He said mail in voting is a huge problem with very little evidence.... He mailed in his vote. What a hyprocate!!!

He rips Biden and his son. He and his children are profiting off his presidency. Then his little worm of a child goes to mongolia to shoots a endangered ram. Total BS as a hunter this pisses me off. Don jr aint no hunter he's no sportsman, He's a elite city slicker like he's pile of a father. Do you think Don JR every hiked into the woods on his own and gutted something??? little puke probably never took a crap in the woods in his life. How can I respect that??? how can you???

He cries out for a muslim ban. But sucks up to the Saudis, and other muslim countries that his company is making money off. Total BS...totally hypercritical.

I want to ask his supports something. Do you honestly think this narcissistic man cares about you and the well being of your family and friends??? I would bet he wouldn't give a squirt of piss for any of us. Just using you and me like pawns.

I see it like if you support him you must bow down with your head down mouth open and B*tt spread so he and his family can ream you from every angle. You must believe his outrageous BS and close your mind to all truth.

Im just trying to understand. I love America, I love all Americans, I wish we could pull together and focus what's right for all and make America great Again.

I suggest to all who spend countless hours trying to defend him. Spend one day researching the real Donal Trump.

It's hard for a narcissi to lead the people when he only cares about himself.

Thank you for your time...Off trail
 
I stopped reading 1/3 the way down, scanned to 1/2 way, skipped the rest and then 'liked' RELH's comment above.

The reason Trump appears to be all that stuff in the OP is because he isn't playing a status quo presidency and it is driving people like pelosi batshit crazy.

Hasn't been done since the 80's.
 
Vote for Biden then. Then in a year you will have another novel of complaints but even longer.

Thanks for wasting my time reading your garbage.

With most media news outlets slamming trump he has handled things quite well. i suggest you flip the channel. Never see them praise him on the economy. If it was that idiot obama he would be shirtless on people magazine
 
Funny, Not one of you would dispute he's a hypocrite.... a lier....a divider. Now we know its truth!! Wake up Boys, pull your heads out of Donalds A##

Could not even give me one reason WHY??? you support him.

Pretty Sad!!
 
I support Trump be because he is not controllable. A vote for Biden is a vote for the swamp establishment. Including Repubs. He is his own man that makes him an independant from the rest and hated by many embedded with either establishment.
 
And this is no BS that comes from me. No FoX ,CNN, MSN , Yahoo or what ever. My personal take on all the political BS taking place over the years.
 
Offtrail just simply vote for Biden. Watch the swamp come back. Watch the economy fail. Best part is if biden won on day 2 he would forget anyway. Day 3 he will just call ya a horses ass like he does on the campaign trail
 
WHY TRUMP???

Im a Family man, a sportsman, a hunter, a fisherman, a camper, backpacker, a blue collar worker. I worked hard for everything i've earned. I have spent my entire life in the outdoors and I consider myself a honest stand up guy, I grew up when u could ride down the highway in the back of a truck, before pagers, beepers, cell phones, I remember using old rotary phones. Im not a old fart but Im no spring chicken either. I do my best to do the right thing, treat others with the respect they deserve if they earned it and try to embrace the views of other people.

I remember when America was great....and its not now and will never be if we continue on the path we are going on. The division in this country is greater than it has ever been. How can I support someone that is ripping this country apart and the driving forces that keep us united and great. How can I stand by and watch the sacrifices that have been made to make this the greatest country on earth be flushed down the toilet. How can I ignore all the service members that have lost there lives to keep us safe, and how can I say who cares to the allies who have died along American in are fight to be the best. There have been generations of sacrifices that made us great. What are we tearing it down for??? For Trumps vision of how the world should work??? In three year he's proven to fail on about everything he's tried to accomplish, except giving huge tax breaks to the elitist you hate, and trying to get you to believe that our proven enemies over time are now our buddies and the real enemy is your fellow American. He's the only president in the history of our country, who refused to try to united us for the better good of all.

He has turned on everyone who has stood up to him even when they were in the right. He has bowed down like a coward to our enemies. He's is tuff on nothing. tuff on CHINA, HA.....China owns him..... Tuff on Russia, HA...he Putins little B*&CH.

I have a hard time buying into Trumps BS. I have lurked in bowels of MM political forum for a while now. I try to be open minded and hear all sides. Typically hunters are very good at connecting the dots.Not on this one. to all that love him...why??? what am I missing??

At times I see is a bunch of Monday morning quarterbacks trying to defend a man who constantly shoots himself in the foot. I see articles posted that try to pass the blame of all his failures on other people and other entities from non credible sources. I see the most feeble attempts to try to right his proven wrongs. I don't get it.

I see a lot of right wing, left wing BS on here. For me its quite simple, Listen to what he says. I have been listening to him from day one of his campaign the only conclusion I can come up with is that he's is full of S$%T.

In his campaign he said:

Hire american workers..... his businesses were proven to hire foreign and undocumented workers after he was elected.....Totally hypercritical. how can I respect that??? How can you???

He said manufacture in America... his S@#t is made in CHINA and elsewhere around the world. Totally Hypercritical. How can I respect that??? How can you respect That???

He said the system is rigged.... Thats right, he rigged it with the help of his scumbag friends, the Russians, and Wikileaks. How many times did he and his campaign team say that in no way shape or form that he or anyone in his campaign was working with Russians or any Russian entities or in contact with them. Yes he was cleared of colluding with the Russian Government. But it was proven that his hand were tied with many Russians and people connected to the Russian power houses and Wikileaks. HE Lied to your face!!

He says mexico will pay for the wall. I can't believe ignorant Americans cheered and believed that. Even when the GOP controlled everything he didn't get his wall funding. How can you respect that??

How many of his cronies are proven to be convicted liars and felons?? How can I respect that??? How can you??

I don't get it. This man is a elite city slicker, he was born with a gold spoon in his mouth. He Sh&$S on a gold plated toilet. He's F%&C*D every blue collar company he could while building his empire. His companies have been proven to be scams and lost lawsuits that prove it. how can I respect that ???? how can YOU??? he cant even get a loan in this country because all the major US financial institution know he's a crook. How can I respect that???

As president:

He cries out that chain migration needs to be stoped. weeks later his foreigner wifes family become citizens under chain migration. What a hypocrite!!! how can I respect that??? how can you???

He said mail in voting is a huge problem with very little evidence.... He mailed in his vote. What a hyprocate!!!

He rips Biden and his son. He and his children are profiting off his presidency. Then his little worm of a child goes to mongolia to shoots a endangered ram. Total BS as a hunter this pisses me off. Don jr aint no hunter he's no sportsman, He's a elite city slicker like he's pile of a father. Do you think Don JR every hiked into the woods on his own and gutted something??? little puke probably never took a crap in the woods in his life. How can I respect that??? how can you???

He cries out for a muslim ban. But sucks up to the Saudis, and other muslim countries that his company is making money off. Total BS...totally hypercritical.

I want to ask his supports something. Do you honestly think this narcissistic man cares about you and the well being of your family and friends??? I would bet he wouldn't give a squirt of piss for any of us. Just using you and me like pawns.

I see it like if you support him you must bow down with your head down mouth open and B*tt spread so he and his family can ream you from every angle. You must believe his outrageous BS and close your mind to all truth.

Im just trying to understand. I love America, I love all Americans, I wish we could pull together and focus what's right for all and make America great Again.

I suggest to all who spend countless hours trying to defend him. Spend one day researching the real Donal Trump.

It's hard for a narcissi to lead the people when he only cares about himself.

Thank you for your time...Off trail
Like Homer says...put the crack pipe down..
 
Tailchasers,
Thank you for giving me a comment that I can think about.

As much as I hate the establishment. It did make our country the strongest greatest country on earth. I am just trying to figure out why we are tearing it down??? Will draining the swamp and replacing it with a man that has proven to only care for his self interest be better??

Where is he??? and where is the rest of the chicken **** congress/senate people right now??? Knowbody is leading right now and thats a something Im trying to figure out.... Which coherent adult can actually steer the ship?? Choices are pretty bleak right now!!
 
Leadership should start locally and work with up the chain of command. Looking at how some metro cities and state governors are leading they are prying on the feds to make tough choices for them. That's plain chick chit IMO. These public officials need to to do the job they were elected to do as opposed to passing the buck to displace blame if things go south. Getting rid of biased media would help in releasing this burden upon our leaders.
 
Leadership should start locally and work with up the chain of command. Looking at how some metro cities and state governors are leading they are prying on the feds to make tough choices for them. That's plain chick chit IMO. These public officials need to to do the job they were elected to do as opposed to passing the buck to displace blame if things go south. Getting rid of biased media would help in releasing this burden upon our leaders.
I agree, lots truth with your comments. Not that i agree with the current system but form there perspective(Local governments in metro cities)they look at the millions of dollars they pay to the feds so will they always be leaning on them. Maybe local governments would be stonger if they paid less federal taxes and used the money as they see fit.

cheers
 
When your house is burning, do you care if the foreman who rescues you cheated on his wife? No, only that he saved your butt! Same with Trump. He's not what you want, but he's what the country needs. Definitely better than the rest, who are career politicians.
 
When your house is burning, do you care if the foreman who rescues you cheated on his wife? No, only that he saved your butt! Same with Trump. He's not what you want, but he's what the country needs. Definitely better than the rest, who are career politicians.
Edit. Fireman.
 
This member (lol) is probably paid by China or Russia ....we keep being reminded of the infiltration according to the Mueller report of foreign entities try to influence our election. This rant is nothing more than an brainwashed blow hard getting their kicks by shaking up freedom loving Americans. My thoughts!!
 
Then his little worm of a child goes to mongolia to shoots a endangered ram. Total BS as a hunter this pisses me off.

Even though I could pick apart every paragraph of your rant. The part above is the most troubling since you are a hunter and you are totally missing the whole point of the conservation model today and how hunting and the money it brings in goes back into conservation efforts. He didnt get special treatment, he has money, (if you have money you can get one too) and the government sells the permits to help conservation efforts. Did you know the Wild Sheep Foundation has an MOU with the country of Mongolia to help them with their sheep conservation efforts, I was actually there at the signing and they discussed their plan how improving the sheep population and how license fees were going to do it. By saying he got special treatment to hunt an endangered animal you are about the equivalent of an anti but worse since they can use your quote as a hunter to use against us.
 
Dividing the country? You mean those deplorables, who cling to their Bibles and their guns? Maybe you should look at the last administration that tore this country apart. That's how Trump got elected.
Good luck with Biden. You are "offtrail" on this one.

hwy
 
Funny, Not one of you would dispute he's a hypocrite.... a lier....a divider. Now we know its truth!! Wake up Boys, pull your heads out of Donalds A##

Could not even give me one reason WHY??? you support him.

Pretty Sad!!

Wow... you are the reason they put directions on a box of Pop Tarts.
I suspect another Flounder alias, he is to afraid to use his name. Go back to your ANTIFA board, ya lunatic.
 
It's in the works the uniparty .........ANTI-TRUMPERS , and ANTI COP LIBERALS and the liberal media taking us to globalism......Nirvana awaits!!! Or at least a globalist socialists form of the same where you're shoveling the propaganda with satan himself and owned by the state!

The original poster exposed himself in his post as an anti-hunter posing as one of us.........Not only is he after your guns he's going to protect your wildlife for you and give a wink to looters it's OK to steal your stuff!!
 
DW had it right in post 3.
Thankfully Obama has the economy at least going in the right direction and things are looking up now.
 
Biden wont remember what country he is in let alone get tough on China or Russia. He will be shuttled around from event to event and handed post cards for his talking points. He is spent.
 
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Biden wont if remember what country he is in let alone get tough on China or Russia. He will be shuttled around from event to event and handed post cards for his talking points. He is spent.

Biden still thinks he’s endorsing Bernie.
 
There are many who share the same conservative values, who hunt, and who defend the right to keep and bear arms, yet who will not vote for Mr. Trump simply because he has demonstrated himself to be dishonorable--from his excuses to avoid military service to his incessant insults to others while whining about the same to himself. He, personally, possesses none of the strength or humility that I see in the men of my father's generation.

To suggest that he is the lesser of two evils is no reason to give support when there are millions of honest and capable men and women who could do this job.
 
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WHY TRUMP???

Im a Family man, a sportsman, a hunter, a fisherman, a camper, backpacker, a blue collar worker. I worked hard for everything i've earned. I have spent my entire life in the outdoors and I consider myself a honest stand up guy, I grew up when u could ride down the highway in the back of a truck, before pagers, beepers, cell phones, I remember using old rotary phones. Im not a old fart but Im no spring chicken either. I do my best to do the right thing, treat others with the respect they deserve if they earned it and try to embrace the views of other people.

I remember when America was great....and its not now and will never be if we continue on the path we are going on. The division in this country is greater than it has ever been. How can I support someone that is ripping this country apart and the driving forces that keep us united and great. How can I stand by and watch the sacrifices that have been made to make this the greatest country on earth be flushed down the toilet. How can I ignore all the service members that have lost there lives to keep us safe, and how can I say who cares to the allies who have died along American in are fight to be the best. There have been generations of sacrifices that made us great. What are we tearing it down for??? For Trumps vision of how the world should work??? In three year he's proven to fail on about everything he's tried to accomplish, except giving huge tax breaks to the elitist you hate, and trying to get you to believe that our proven enemies over time are now our buddies and the real enemy is your fellow American. He's the only president in the history of our country, who refused to try to united us for the better good of all.

He has turned on everyone who has stood up to him even when they were in the right. He has bowed down like a coward to our enemies. He's is tuff on nothing. tuff on CHINA, HA.....China owns him..... Tuff on Russia, HA...he Putins little B*&CH.

I have a hard time buying into Trumps BS. I have lurked in bowels of MM political forum for a while now. I try to be open minded and hear all sides. Typically hunters are very good at connecting the dots.Not on this one. to all that love him...why??? what am I missing??

At times I see is a bunch of Monday morning quarterbacks trying to defend a man who constantly shoots himself in the foot. I see articles posted that try to pass the blame of all his failures on other people and other entities from non credible sources. I see the most feeble attempts to try to right his proven wrongs. I don't get it.

I see a lot of right wing, left wing BS on here. For me its quite simple, Listen to what he says. I have been listening to him from day one of his campaign the only conclusion I can come up with is that he's is full of S$%T.

In his campaign he said:

Hire american workers..... his businesses were proven to hire foreign and undocumented workers after he was elected.....Totally hypercritical. how can I respect that??? How can you???

He said manufacture in America... his S@#t is made in CHINA and elsewhere around the world. Totally Hypercritical. How can I respect that??? How can you respect That???

He said the system is rigged.... Thats right, he rigged it with the help of his scumbag friends, the Russians, and Wikileaks. How many times did he and his campaign team say that in no way shape or form that he or anyone in his campaign was working with Russians or any Russian entities or in contact with them. Yes he was cleared of colluding with the Russian Government. But it was proven that his hand were tied with many Russians and people connected to the Russian power houses and Wikileaks. HE Lied to your face!!

He says mexico will pay for the wall. I can't believe ignorant Americans cheered and believed that. Even when the GOP controlled everything he didn't get his wall funding. How can you respect that??

How many of his cronies are proven to be convicted liars and felons?? How can I respect that??? How can you??

I don't get it. This man is a elite city slicker, he was born with a gold spoon in his mouth. He Sh&$S on a gold plated toilet. He's F%&C*D every blue collar company he could while building his empire. His companies have been proven to be scams and lost lawsuits that prove it. how can I respect that ???? how can YOU??? he cant even get a loan in this country because all the major US financial institution know he's a crook. How can I respect that???

As president:

He cries out that chain migration needs to be stoped. weeks later his foreigner wifes family become citizens under chain migration. What a hypocrite!!! how can I respect that??? how can you???

He said mail in voting is a huge problem with very little evidence.... He mailed in his vote. What a hyprocate!!!

He rips Biden and his son. He and his children are profiting off his presidency. Then his little worm of a child goes to mongolia to shoots a endangered ram. Total BS as a hunter this pisses me off. Don jr aint no hunter he's no sportsman, He's a elite city slicker like he's pile of a father. Do you think Don JR every hiked into the woods on his own and gutted something??? little puke probably never took a crap in the woods in his life. How can I respect that??? how can you???

He cries out for a muslim ban. But sucks up to the Saudis, and other muslim countries that his company is making money off. Total BS...totally hypercritical.

I want to ask his supports something. Do you honestly think this narcissistic man cares about you and the well being of your family and friends??? I would bet he wouldn't give a squirt of piss for any of us. Just using you and me like pawns.

I see it like if you support him you must bow down with your head down mouth open and B*tt spread so he and his family can ream you from every angle. You must believe his outrageous BS and close your mind to all truth.

Im just trying to understand. I love America, I love all Americans, I wish we could pull together and focus what's right for all and make America great Again.

I suggest to all who spend countless hours trying to defend him. Spend one day researching the real Donal Trump.

It's hard for a narcissi to lead the people when he only cares about himself.

Thank you for your time...Off trail
Ocho, is that you?!
 
Homer--

Very true. But why? Why did Republicans ignore the bad behavior to the point that we did not even bother looking for someone deserving of the post? What does that say about OUR character?
 
...because who in their right mind would subject themselves and their families to the viciousness of politics these days....???

I like Trump....nice guys don't have a chance....as much as we want them to
 
Memory serves Trump beat a good number of other pubs in the republic primary process to get the nomination. Did the voters not speak? So are the voters to blame for being so fool hardy for passing up all the other candidates?
 
By saying he got special treatment to hunt an endangered animal you are about the equivalent of an anti but worse since they can use your quote as a hunter to use against us.
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They won't use any of his quotes due to the amount of bad grammar and spelling errors.
 
Funny, Not one of you would dispute he's a hypocrite.... a lier....a divider. Now we know its truth!! Wake up Boys, pull your heads out of Donalds A##

Could not even give me one reason WHY??? you support him.

Pretty Sad!!


I'll make it easy for you:

"...he isn't playing a status quo presidency and it is driving people like pelosi batshit crazy."

Everyone is a hypocrite to some degree. Until you can walk on water, pipe down.
 
I wonder where the millions of men and or women are at that Bull claims could do the job? Are they stepping up to the plate? The lesser of two evils means that one of the two is less evil. I'll take less evil over more evil any day.

Very little of what "offtrail" said is true and if he bothered to look even slightly below the surface into the facts, his warped sense of what's really going on might actually open his eyes. The media is by far the biggest source and cause of division in this country, and the people in their echo chambers that regurgitate their garbage only reinforce the false narratives that flow from their pieholes 24/7.
 
What a dumbass! Trump Should go down as one of the best president’s this country has ever seen.
Are you really that stupid? Still on the fake Russia scandal huh? Judas. You do know there’s an investigation going on as we speak that will in time shed some light on that phony hiatus? Sure glad the Dems used our tax dollars on that scandal, rather than helping the country.
Taxes, let me tell you the truth. Trumps tax cuts did way more for the poor and middle class than it did for the rich. Just ask your accountant.
Trump, not only did he make his money outside of politics and the presidency, but he doesn’t keep his salary for being president.
Can’t say that about Clinton, Biden, Obama...
He’s doing what no president has ever done shedding light on the corrupt, lifelong political swamp.
“In god we trust” a foundation of the USA, Trump speaks of religion and god openly. Biden can’t even say god.
Of course Trump took advantage of the system, and used every loophole and angle he could to make money, and abuse the tax system before he was president. Not a billionaire in the country that doesn’t abuse the hell out of the system for financial gain, but it wasn’t his system in place, it was America’s.
If you don’t think Biden and his sons actions overseas were corrupt as it gets, making huge financial gains while he was in office you are an absolute moron.
Buy American, build American. Damn straight! Of course Trump used foreign materials and cheap labor to build his hotels, resorts, casinos. Are you really that naive and disconnected from economics and the construction industry. Hypocrisy, I don’t think so... that was business man Trump, not president Trump. If our president isn’t preaching build American, buy American thats a problem. If he ain’t preaching God, religion, freedom, that’s a problem.
Best economy we have ever seen. Currently we are climbing out of a pandemic, and the left is doing everything in their power to see that America doesn’t crawl out of this hole while Trump is in command. Talk about Hypocrisy, open your eyes man.
That huge paragraph going on about what an honest, upstanding individual you may be. Hmmm, I won’t go there, but judging from your post... I’ll leave it alone.
 
I wonder where the millions of men and or women are at that Bull claims could do the job? Are they stepping up to the plate? The lesser of two evils means that one of the two is less evil. I'll take less evil over more evil any day.

Very little of what "offtrail" said is true and if he bothered to look even slightly below the surface into the facts, his warped sense of what's really going on might actually open his eyes. The media is by far the biggest source and cause of division in this country, and the people in their echo chambers that regurgitate their garbage only reinforce the false narratives that flow from their pieholes 24/7.
Well said! Very good post
 
"where the millions of men and or women are at that Bull claims could do the job?"

Look around you. There are many as qualified as Trump. Even as a businessman he was all about label rather than performance. Just ask his stockholders who lost their investments as he increased his own wealth.

"Are they stepping up to the plate?"

Would we support them if they did? I'm not seeing it, and until we change the standards by which we judge our public servants, good people will simply look elsewhere for satisfying occupations. It is worth remembering that there were once many who served only because they were effectively drafted by those who honored them. Many grew poor in the service of their country. There are still men (and women) worthy of this honor, but too few voters that care.

America was not built by beating the "other" half, and I do not see many societies that succeed in this strategy over the long-term.
 
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...if we would stop digging in their closets for anything that could be spun as bad.....but that will never stop. Trump had the balls to do it...we need him
 
So I'm older than most people on this site and as a photographer I know that a picture paints 1000 words.
I just saw on TV Trump visiting a a town in Maine. People on the sidewalk waving American flags and cheering.
Last night I saw a picture of NY, or LA or any Democratic city, with people carrying signs, destroying property, injuring or killing Americans, and chanting kill the cops.
The question is, are you on Bidens side? If so go march in a Democratic city. Or are you going to vote for Trump and rebuild this country and keep Americans safe.
 
Let's assume that Biden does represent anti-American sentiment and violence. Let's also acknowledge that Trump represents false piety and inexplicable support for America's demonstrated enemies over her allies. Why should we settle for, let alone give support to, either?
 
Let's assume that Biden does represent anti-American sentiment and violence. Let's also acknowledge that Trump represents false piety and inexplicable support for America's demonstrated enemies over her allies. Why should we settle for, let alone give support to, either?
Give one factually correct example of Trump supporting USA enemies.
 
Realize that there are many things represented in this photo. You think you are voting for Biden but your really not. He is only the face of a puppet. Others pulling his strings are far worse. You just don't see them when you first look at the photo but look harder. They are there in the shadows.
By the end of this year he won't be capable of spelling his own name so if he gets elected WHO will be the real President. Think about that picture.
 
The POTUS is shaking things up, the embedded Deep State is real. The power they have is extremely dangerous, the suits ( not the 99.9% amazing boots) attempted a coup on Trump. If Trump and AG Barr are successful in exposing this atrocity..... that will be enough to make me forever grateful. I have many other reasons to say thank you President Trump.
1. Stance against shedding innocent blood through abortion.
2. A thriving economy 3.5 % unemployment rate ( before pandemic)
3. Border security, I live in NM and steer away from border units
4. Massive work to mend race relations, it's a crying shame the media has poisoned the sheep into believing otherwise.
5. Rebuilding our military, peace only comes through strength
6. Stopping Iran aggression under the Obama nuclear deal
7. Holding NATO blowhards accountable with financing their Commitment to 2% of GDP
The list is LONG as to the "WHY" heading this thread .
 
Give one factually correct example of Trump supporting USA enemies.
Why would he recommend that Russia be readmitted to the G7 following their annexation of Crimea for which they were previously ejected? What has Russia done for the US that would account for our support while our allies continue to hold their feet to the fire?
 
Why would he recommend that Russia be readmitted to the G7 following their annexation of Crimea for which they were previously ejected? What has Russia done for the US that would account for our support while our allies continue to hold their feet to the fire?

That’s not a concrete example of anything. Today the oil futures contracts were at $39.

A month ago they were negative. Russia and Saudi’s playing oil chicken wiped out the oil business in the US. Im sure it’s ending came with deals.



As to Trump. You can tell a lot about a man by who his enemies are. Mitt Romney, the Bushes, John McCain, Bill Kristol, CNN, Comey, Brennan.....

Republicans were/are the Washington Generals. Their job was to lose nicely. To speak eloquently about conservatism while not accomplishing any of it. They pledged to the Reagan philosophy, but didn’t have the stomach or stones to take the abuse that Reagan did. In short, it was the Republicans job to push us towards globalism at the same pace as the Dems, just doing so while throwing out the popular buzzwords on abortion, guns, taxes.

He’s a hand grenade. In 3 years look at what he has done.

-Totally exposed the media for what they always have been.

- Totally exposed the country club Republicans for what they are

-Exposed the dems for the outright socialists they are

-Supreme Court. Compare his picks to John Roberts

-exposed the deep state

I heard Rush Limbaugh say once, “ this is what pushback looks like”

Reagan was despised. Including by his own Vice President. Success comes at a cost.
 
3. Border security, I live in NM and steer away from border units

This. Until you live in a state that has the STUPID ability to keep electing democrats to state positions, particularity our idiot governor, you would NEVER want to see a democrat sitting in the White House. They are way to irresponsible to be in leadership positions in this day and age.
 
The whole thing reminds me of the saying " being president is like being a dog catcher; you can understand the need for one, but a real man wouldn't take the job"
Lots of negative about Trump's personal stuff, but President Trump is doing a better job that anyone since Reagan. Pro-Life, Pro-God, Pro-Gun. Works for me!
 
Bullskin I will give you credit on that it is a factual support of one of are enemies but it is debatable the reason that it was done.
Do all you guys out there that want Trump out of office really want Biden to take over. You do realize when the crazies take over the insane asylum that all the crazies get a seat at the head table.
Do you really want Elizebeth Warren, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez and ilahn Omar running the US government.
As long as bleeding heart liberals elect these crazy crooked politicians to the political levels that can and will affect are lives we need Supreme Court Justices that can and will correct the wrongs.
President Trump could sit on his hands and only do one more thing for the next 4 years after he is reelected and that is after Ruth Bader Ginsberg dies that is put in another intellectual conservative value Justice on the Supreme Court like Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh.
Covid-19 can kill 50 percent of the people of this country, the rioters can burn down our homes and private businesses and the country can go into another great depression. But as long as we have protectors of the Constitution and the Constitution stays fully intact we can and will rebuild this country.
 
my point with little Don is...He conducted his hunt, that he knew would be highly scrutinized in a manner that left the door wide open for the media to jump all over. If he was truly an ambassador of our sport he would have realized this and covered his tracks. Regardless of what really happened what was reported put a huge stain on the entire hunting community, a far greater stain than a fellow hunter calling out his carless actions that were reported around the world giving hunters a bad name. It doesn't take a genius to realize the uproar that would come to take taxpayer dollars to be escorted around the world by the secret service to hunt an endangered Ram.

To say it wasn't special privilege is down right wrong. The Mongolian government reported THEY gave him the permit after the shot. He went to meet privately with with the Mongolian president after he left the hunting region. Not only that, he meet with Mongolian officials a month before the hunt at the southern Whitehouse. He used taxpayer dollars. Then he leaves the door wide open for media to jump all over his actions. Your gunna tell me I give hunting a bad name???? Boys go smoke another one!! He could not and would not validate his spokesman's claim that he paid for his hunt in 2015 and that the tag was obtained by a third party outfitter, Nor did he pay back the bill us taxpayers covered.

Mongolians reported he shot the Ram at night with a rifle with laser sights. Sounds really ethical!!! Fare Chase??? I think not. This hunt was investigated by US officials, and your gunna tell me I give hunters a bad name???? WAKE UP!!!

If an anti hunter read my statements they would probably fell good to know that at least one person in the hunting community will call out his actions that made us all look bad.


Offtrail
 
Mongolians reported he shot the Ram at night with a rifle with laser sights. Sounds really ethical!!! Fare Chase??? I think not. This hunt was investigated by US officials, and your gunna tell me I give hunters a bad name???? WAKE UP.

Offtrail
Oh.....come on now. That doesn't even sound like something you can do in Utah. :rolleyes: All the sheep hunters know the best hunting is at night.:cool:
 
I had no idea Don Jr. shot a sheep so I looked it up. Pretty cool trip, good for him. Sheep are not my thing but I imagine that would be a coveted trophy to a sheep hunter.

In response to questions from ProPublica about the hunting trip, a spokesman for Trump Jr., an avid outdoorsman, said in a statement it was a purely personal expedition. He purchased the seven-day Mongolian hunting trip at a National Rifle Association charity auction before his father announced his candidacy for president in 2015, the spokesman said, and flew commercial in and out of the country. It’s unclear if the auction item listed an argali or mentioned meetings with Mongolian government officials.

 
Mongolians reported he shot the Ram at night with a rifle with laser sights. Sounds really ethical!!! Fare Chase??? I think not. This hunt was investigated by US officials, and your gunna tell me I give hunters a bad name???? WAKE UP!!!

If an anti hunter read my statements they would probably fell good to know that at least one person in the hunting community will call out his actions that made us all look bad.

So an anti hunting, anti trump paper writes an article, gets cited in all other articles and then the investigation comes back with nothing. So maybe since they dont list the permit or type of permit maybe he asked for the export (CITIES) permit...usually you get that permit after you shoot it.

And did you come up with the term he shot it using laser sights or was that in this highly accurate and unbiased article. Pretty sure you are a troll, as I have never heard any hunter say laser sights.

Also what's fare chase?

And finally you made my point, if the antis agree with you, you are on the wrong side of the issue. As you say WAKE UP.
 
Like in Mongolia, Utards hire Mexicans to carry the battery pack for their spot lights at night.
I actually have some night pictures of sheep around here somewhere. They are like racoons and will come rob your camp at night. The lazer guided assault rifles are only for personal protection. ;)
 
Offrail, you are right Trump is a POS in so many ways.

Sorry you can not see it, but the alternative is a whole bucket of “S” dumped right on your favorite grandchild’s head.

It’s not a perfect world.
 
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We supply SS protection to all kids of presidents.

If one of the Obama girls wants to go to Bali for vacation, the secret service is with them. And they should be. Why should Jr have to pay back the taxpayers for something assigned to him?
 
We supply SS protection to all kids of presidents.

If one of the Obama girls wants to go to Bali for vacation, the secret service is with them. And they should be. Why should Jr have to pay back the taxpayers for something assigned to him?

hey hey now.....you didn't have to point that out....
 
Let's assume that Biden does represent anti-American sentiment and violence. Let's also acknowledge that Trump represents false piety and inexplicable support for America's demonstrated enemies over her allies. Why should we settle for, let alone give support to, either?
This is a point I'm trying to get at...I don't want to vote for skitzo Joe..... and I don't want to vote for tyrant Trump either. We deserve better.... America is full of highly intelligent people who are excellent at making calculated decisions in a professional manner.

Trump is one of the few world leader who conducts his business in an unprofessional manner rendering him far less affective. Our enemie...Putin, The man is a calculated mastermind, he is very effective because he is professional and he, like any successful entity/or person listens to the professionals around him and feed off them.
Trump is none of that. He's highly unprofessional, At one point he had some very intelligent and respected people around him. In typical Trump fashion he pissed that away. He wipes his ass with respected cabinet members and advisors, witch would actually be affective at getting **** done and passing policies that we greatly need. he is his own worst enemy. This is why he is the most disliked president of all time. This is why many Republicans demise him.
He degrades America, and wants to tear down a system that has proven to build and sustain the greatest country on earth. In the name what????
Im proud of my country and all that it has to offer. I'm Proud of my for fathers and the system they built. I am greatfull and blessed to be born in America!!! The greatest country on earth! The system actually works greats when our elected officials, all officials show the respect our people and our democracy deserve.
 
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I agree, lots truth with your comments. Not that i agree with the current system but form there perspective(Local governments in metro cities)they look at the millions of dollars they pay to the feds so will they always be leaning on them. Maybe local governments would be stonger if they paid less federal taxes and used the money as they see fit.

cheers

Offtrail,

Nearly all the states that are being destroyed by Covid-19 and riots are ran by Dems. Did you know he went from the 20% range to 41% on support of black voters even with what is going on currently. 2.5 Million jobs added in May that's unheard of in a crisis we are in. Not one of his predecessors could accomplish that. And it's only going to get better by opening the economy. He stands for Law and order as we've seen. He calls out the weak mayors who are tying there Police officers hands. Whom which are getting pelted with piss bottles, bricks, stabbed, shot, dogs are getting hung by rioters. But weak a55 democrats are just saying let them vent. Well the let them vent mentality isn't working. Because most of these rioters didn't get their a55es beat by mom and dad enough. We've got a speaker of the house that refuses to bring the house in session to vote on issues because the virus is so bad. But yet she marches with protesters without a mask. So really who is the evil. I'm not sure where you live but if you are in one of these cities that's been destroyed. I hope you love your new insurance rates and taxes that are coming as well as inflation. So no none of this is trumps fault it is one hundred percent weak leaders at the local level.
 
rump is one of the few world leader who conducts his business in an unprofessional manner rendering him far less affective. Our enemie...Putin, The man is a calculated mastermind, he is very effective because he is professional and he, like any successful entity/or person listens to the professionals around him and feed off them.
You could always write Putin in in November.

We already do have a 3rd Party candidate. We have Democrats, Republicans, and now Trump. Trump will win in November too.
 
BS aside, The reason why I ask and posted this is because I believe sportsman are some of the most stand up people around. Some of the best times I have is hangin after a day of hunting and talking **** with the boys... I want to hear different perspectives. What you believe. How you push aside his obvious hypocrisy, divisiveness, His inability to take responsibility for any of his failures. His inability to unite.

Some of you have gave food for thought... Thats all I'm looking for.

And..... I have killed a forked Horn.....LOL
 
I live in a small town east of Los Angeles called Horse Town USA.
In the last month more and more flagpoles have been flying TRUMP flags.
Trump signs are being placed in front yards. Pick up trucks have Trump flags flying from poles set up in their beds and this morning I noticed that my neighbor has just put up a Trump banner on the side of his barn.
More and more people are saying "Thank God he is our President"
 
Take responsibility for failures? Unprofessional? Loud?


I watched the mayor of Atlanta a week ago tell the rioters to “take their asses home”.

I know nothing about her but straight talk I applauded.

The reaction to trumps language is mind blowing and only proves how SOFT some have become.

Who do you want him to hug? Pelosi? Shummer?

Don’t forget, HE KNOWS what was done to him.

Imagine being the President KNOWING you were spied on by the former President. Knowing the leaders of the Dems knew about it. KNOWING they tried to set you up in a coup.

He KNOWS. He KNOWS how dirty Biden is. He knows ALL OF IT.

He’s much bigger than i am.

But I’m still in shock how much people like smoke blown up their asses. We had 8 yrs of happy talk, nice speeches.

Trump was elected to destroy that. And like it or not he has.

I have zero interest in “coming together” with Sanders, AOC, etc. Have way to socialism is still socislism

PC speech is BULLSHIT. It is looking you in the eye and LYING TO YOU.
Why do you care what he says? What is he doing?

It’s not Trump. Watch a press conference. It’s nothing but “gotcha” and PC crap.
 
We supply SS protection to all kids of presidents.

If one of the Obama girls wants to go to Bali for vacation, the secret service is with them. And they should be. Why should Jr have to pay back the taxpayers for something assigned to him?
I can't dispute this about the SS protections this is well known.....however, he should have know that the media would have a field day on this "hunting of an endangered species". and many many publications did. regardless if you think it's true or I do the fact is its out there and it sheds a negative light on hunting.
 
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Why do I support DJT? He cares more for America than he all the other countries combined. Not a politician, does not owe anybody anything. Not a socialist
Etc
 
If you seriously think Biden is right for the job, I truly feel sorry for you.
Career politician that changes his views to suit his current audience. He has used his positions to pad and his family's pockets. Think China, Ukraine.
 
Why do I support DJT? He cares more for America than he all the other countries combined. Not a politician, does not owe anybody anything. Not a socialist
Etc
Thank you for a strong answer. I have plenty of stuff going on in my life, work, kids,.... I'm not here to pull my pud and waste anyones time. just trying to understand everyones point of view. Considering what's going on outside I think this dialog is important. I work with my hands, a computer dummy. I have never posted a rant in my life,( I barely post anything) I did... wanted it to go to a group of people that I share a common valve with so I can hear different perspectives.

Nice ram..
 

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