Winter kill 2023

[nvguy2]

While we wait for proposals and draw deadline, I was curious to know if anybody has heard how the elk herds have faired this year? Planning on putting in for Manti and my buddy said he heard that the elk around Fairview had been hit with the hard winter. Maybe it’s not true but was just curious if anybody has heard the same thing or anybody know first hand if the herds took a bad hit this winter? I guess if they did it will reflect when tag recommendations come out in a few days. Just curious if anybody knows. Thanks.

 

[muledeer]

I know they have been hit by vehicles more than what I usually see

 

[Dangbig]

Green up is coming that kill almost as much as the winter in spots

 

[Sallaberry]

Green up is coming that kill almost as much as the winter in spots

Really? Genuine question.

 

[Dangbig]

Really? Genuine question.

Yes I have seen deer and elk hit new green grass and it’s to rich and kills them
Had cattle do it also

 

[TheOneRidgeRunner]

Really? Genuine question.

Green up is often the worst time for deer after eating woody vegetation for months. Very similar to colic in a horse. They get clogged up from gorging on all the green

 

[c3]

Yes I have seen deer and elk hit new green grass and it’s to rich and kills them
Had cattle do it also

It is a truism unfortunately. When you have super wet green spring time conditions the animals have so much moisture in their feed, they can't produce enough stomach acid to digest it all after such harsh winters.

Believe it or not, most winter kill on normal years is actually in the spring after it starts to green up.

Cheers, Pete

 

[slamdunk]

Green up is often the worst time for deer after eating woody vegetation for months. Very similar to colic in a horse. They get clogged up from gorging on all the green

Exactly why the DNR discourages feeding

 

[Homer]

It is a truism unfortunately. When you have super wet green spring time conditions the animals have so much moisture in their feed, they can't produce enough stomach acid to digest it all after such harsh winters.

Believe it or not, most winter kill on normal years is actually in the spring after it starts to green up.

Cheers, Pete

except for this year......not much left to die....

 

[southernutahhunter]

So with this in mind, wouldn’t you say even more deer are going to be lost this year than on a normal year? And if this is the case why would anyone with common sense recommend an increase in deer tags?

 

[Homer]

So with this in mind, wouldn’t you say even more deer are going to be lost this year than on a normal year? And if this is the case why would anyone with common sense recommend an increase in deer tags?

who has?

 

[southernutahhunter]

Whoever presented the video!

 

[Homer]

Whoever presented the video!

There's a video in this thread?

 

[notrace]

I think the Manti Unit is doing very good and infact will see many more tags then the last few years.

 

[notrace]

Whoever presented the video!

Northern utah like cache will be reducing deer tags but some central and southern units will see a rise in permits due to the deer doing much better then usual.

 

[slamdunk]

I think the Manti Unit is doing very good and infact will see many more tags then the last few years.

Mount Pleasant area had ridiculous numbers of deer during early winter, I was amazed at how full the fields were around town.
Around December they were gone to lower grounds.
I hope a good number will return, but I know they are getting tired and hungry.

 

[lostinOregon]

Biological sideboards actually means “keeps revenue the same” in ancient Utah Indian speak.

 

[hogg_65]

Manti deer herd looks better than the rest of the state. Judging by what I've seen this spring. Especially the east side of the manti.

 

[JakeH]

I thought this was an interesting discussion I seen on whether or not the recent deer feeding program in northern Utah is helping.

This is from the comments of that post I did in the Utah forum about actual herd data that comes from GPS collard deer across the state.