Yet another school shooting

eelgrass

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😂. I didn’t know you served time in a fox hole. Thanks for your service.
It wasn't me. My good friend spent 18 months "humping the boonies" on recon patrols in Vietnam. Another was a Marine sniper. I'll pass on your sentiments. Thanks. :)
 

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No it won't change, they're still fleecing the chumps and protecting the manufacturers profits. if Wayne isn't getting a new gold toilet someone will be. But it's nice to see at least some people's concern for the dead lasted 24hrs before the concern for the NRA took priority. that's a record.

Looks like the cops really screwed the pooch on this one. I'm not going to pass judgment until all the facts are known but it sounds bad. the worst part is there are a lot of good cops out there who're going to get more blame than the shooter or the rambo guns out of this. the gun lobby has their scapegoat now.

Religion, yes that's the key to peace and love. WTF ever.

 

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No it won't change, they're still fleecing the chumps and protecting the manufacturers profits. if Wayne isn't getting a new gold toilet someone will be.


But it's nice to see at least some people's concern for the dead lasted 24hrs before the concern for the NRA took priority. that's a record.

Looks like the cops really screwed the pooch on this one. I'm not going to pass judgment until all the facts are known but it sounds bad. the worst part is there are a lot of good cops out there who're going to get more blame than the shooter or the rambo guns out of this. the gun lobby has their scapegoat now.
You already did by saying the cops blew it 🙄
 

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No it won't change, they're still fleecing the chumps and protecting the manufacturers profits. if Wayne isn't getting a new gold toilet someone will be. But it's nice to see at least some people's concern for the dead lasted 24hrs before the concern for the NRA took priority. that's a record.

Looks like the cops really screwed the pooch on this one. I'm not going to pass judgment until all the facts are known but it sounds bad. the worst part is there are a lot of good cops out there who're going to get more blame than the shooter or the rambo guns out of this. the gun lobby has their scapegoat now.

Religion, yes that's the key to peace and love. WTF ever.

And for the 6th time.....wtf are YOU willing give up?
 

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His grandmother wasn't a person ?

The point you're trying to cover up is this kid had no record, no known mental issues and he followed the law right up until he started shooting. so other than not equip him what's the answer ?


There's not one.

And 870 with the plug out shooting 00 buck, he's killing a ton.

Hate to break it to the lib, "do something" crowd, but, sometimes evil exists.

I would point out, where is mom and dad?
 

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Putin and Hitler, Christians. so what more needs said ? are you talking some religion other than christanity? Muslims ? strike two. Jews ? strike 3 . so what religion is it that will save us ? this should be good.

I don't have to give up anything because I don't need man cards . the Heller decision protects every one of the 70+ guns I own and life is good. you're the ones with a problem. you really should read it so I don't have to keep dumbing everything down for you.

Back to the well regulated militia, nobody want to touch that do they ? good for you. but the fact is this kid did everything according to your chosen regulations right up until he pointed the gun at a person and pulled the trigger. he's not the first or the last. so you really need to regulate your militia a hell of a lot better wouldn't you say ? the majority of Americans have some regulations they approve of but you get butt hurt at any suggestion of regulations. do you see irony here ? probably not so if you loan me your crayons I can draw you some pictures.
 

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Putin and Hitler, Christians. so what more needs said ? are you talking some religion other than christanity? Muslims ? strike two. Jews ? strike 3 . so what religion is it that will save us ? this should be good.

I don't have to give up anything because I don't need man cards . the Heller decision protects every one of the 70+ guns I own and life is good. you're the ones with a problem. you really should read it so I don't have to keep dumbing everything down for you.

Back to the well regulated militia, nobody want to touch that do they ? good for you. but the fact is this kid did everything according to your chosen regulations right up until he pointed the gun at a person and pulled the trigger. he's not the first or the last. so you really need to regulate your militia a hell of a lot better wouldn't you say ? the majority of Americans have some regulations they approve of but you get butt hurt at any suggestion of regulations. do you see irony here ? probably not so if you loan me your crayons I can draw you some pictures.
You're the one crying for change, wtf are you willing to give up for "change"??
 

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Actually you're right about the well regulated militia, but the government, to protect itself, doesn't follow the Constitution when it comes to that. We can't even have full auto weapons.

What would you do with all the confiscated AR-15's? I mean besides use them on people who refuse to get vaccinated, or people who meet secretly to worship God, or people who don't believe the climate scam?
 

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Putin and Hitler, Christians. so what more needs said ? are you talking some religion other than christanity? Muslims ? strike two. Jews ? strike 3 . so what religion is it that will save us ? this should be good.

I don't have to give up anything because I don't need man cards . the Heller decision protects every one of the 70+ guns I own and life is good. you're the ones with a problem. you really should read it so I don't have to keep dumbing everything down for you.

Back to the well regulated militia, nobody want to touch that do they ? good for you. but the fact is this kid did everything according to your chosen regulations right up until he pointed the gun at a person and pulled the trigger. he's not the first or the last. so you really need to regulate your militia a hell of a lot better wouldn't you say ? the majority of Americans have some regulations they approve of but you get butt hurt at any suggestion of regulations. do you see irony here ? probably not so if you loan me your crayons I can draw you some pictures.
I'm not going to get drawn into a religiosity discussion here, but I do want to say this...

You keep bringing up Heller to legitimatize the types of guns you own, but you also keep referencing the "militia."

Heller, the very decision you're using as justification for one of your arguments, is the very case that would be used to counter to your other argument. Heller found that the right to bear arms was an individual right, independent of any requirements regarding service in a militia.

I think you probably knew that though.
 

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Putin and Hitler, Christians. so what more needs said ? are you talking some religion other than christanity? Muslims ? strike two. Jews ? strike 3 . so what religion is it that will save us ? this should be good.

The first step to a broken society is to first not care about anything or anyone. Once you've mastered that, intolerance for everything else becomes easy.

These people who kill don't care and are intolerant.

Good job for proving my point again...
 

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Let's have a reminder on what the 2nd Amendment actually says...

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

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It says that a militia is necessary, but the right to bear arms is clearly written to "the people" and not the aforementioned "militia."

The Supreme Court agreed.
 

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You're the one crying for change, wtf are you willing to give up for "change"??
We're so unwilling to change that we cant put a limit on the magazine capacity of an AR, but have no problem passing regulations so we can't possess a shotgun for duck hunting that holds more than 3 shells.

Seems reasonable...unless you actually think about it.
 

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Bullchit, just a fact and your faux caring isn't fooling anyone.

My comment is reality...try living in it for a while. Columbine, Sandy Hook...tell me what your thoughts, prayers, and faux caring did to change anything? What actions did you take then to prevent the next one? Nothing. The same inaction that you will take with this one...and the next, and the one after.


In a week or so you'll move right on to the next thing you find more important to faux care about right along with the rest of America. Stock market, fuel prices, inflation, crime rate in Chicago, yada yada.

I'm not sorry the facts offend you.
All things that your guy hasn’t stopped in 40 years.
 

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We're so unwilling to change that we cant put a limit on the magazine capacity of an AR, but have no problem passing regulations so we can't possess a shotgun for duck hunting that holds more than 3 shells.

Seems reasonable...unless you actually think about it.
Wait I’m confused? Is the rifle evil? Or the magazine evil? Or are the bullets evil? Or are the first 5 bullets not evil and then after that there evil?

We all know it can’t be the guy holding the gun so one of the above has to be the offender
 

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Can anybody help me understand why these shootings only happen in any regularity in America?

Other countries have lower two-parent households but don't have these shootings. Other countries have less religious participation but don't have these shootings. Other countries play violent video games but don't have these shootings. Other countries have mental illness but don't have these shootings. I can't figure it out.

These shootings happen in California, Texas, and New York so it's not as simple as gun control.

Iceland has 90,000 guns and they didn't have a murder with a firearm between 2007 and 2018... ELEVEN YEARS WITHOUT A SINGLE GUN MURDER. They didn't have a police shooting between 1944 and 2013. That's 69 consecutive years!

However, if you look into Iceland's gun control, it's very strict. Is their low gun violence rate due to successful gun control laws, or something else?

PS. Twenty years ago, Iceland had 90% of it's population self-identify as religious; today it's less than 50%. In the last poll on religion, not a single young person responded that Earth was created by God. Not one. So religion is not it either.

EDIT - I just checked, we have the highest rate of incarceration in the world, right above Rwanda, so that's not it.

I really don't know what's wrong with us.
 
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Putin and Hitler, Christians. so what more needs said ? are you talking some religion other than christanity? Muslims ? strike two. Jews ? strike 3 . so what religion is it that will save us ? this should be good.

I don't have to give up anything because I don't need man cards . the Heller decision protects every one of the 70+ guns I own and life is good. you're the ones with a problem. you really should read it so I don't have to keep dumbing everything down for you.

Back to the well regulated militia, nobody want to touch that do they ? good for you. but the fact is this kid did everything according to your chosen regulations right up until he pointed the gun at a person and pulled the trigger. he's not the first or the last. so you really need to regulate your militia a hell of a lot better wouldn't you say ? the majority of Americans have some regulations they approve of but you get butt hurt at any suggestion of regulations. do you see irony here ? probably not so if you loan me your crayons I can draw you some pictures.
It’s not the damn nail!

 

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Can anybody help me understand why these shootings only happen in any regularity in America?

Other countries have lower two-parent households but don't have these shootings. Other countries have less religious participation but don't have these shootings. Other countries play violent video games but don't have these shootings. Other countries have mental illness but don't have these shootings. I can't figure it out.

These shootings happen in California, Texas, and New York so it's not as simple as gun control.

Iceland has 90,000 guns and they didn't have a murder with a firearm between 2007 and 2018... ELEVEN YEARS WITHOUT A SINGLE GUN MURDER. They didn't have a police shooting between 1944 and 2013. That's 69 consecutive years!

However, if you look into Iceland's gun control, it's very strict. Is their low gun violence rate due to successful gun control laws, or something else?

PS. Twenty years ago, Iceland had 90% of it's population self-identify as religious; today it's less than 50%. In the last poll on religion, not a single young person responded that Earth was created by God. Not one. So religion is not it either.

EDIT - I just checked, we have the highest rate of incarceration in the world, right above Rwanda, so that's not it.

I really don't know what's wrong with us.
We are a country always at war. It’s celebrated in the u.s.

If a kid grows up in a house with parents who smoke cigs that kid is probably more likely to smoke cigs

In America we grow up in a house constantly at war and celebrating it. So we have a lot of violence.

Iceland doesn’t go to war.

Remember the cocaine commercial: “I learned it from watching you! Alright!”

Kinda simplified and I think your question may have been rhetorical but there’s an answer for you.
 

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This thread went straight in the ditch when religion was introduced. But seeing who did it, I’m sure that was the intent.

So, we’re all agreed that crazy people should be allowed to own guns?
 

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We Need More of This!

The News Media Never Reports Anything GOOD Though!

Careful SS!

There Are Women/Teachers Packin That You Don't Know About & A Bunch Of Them Do Know How To Use The Tool!



 
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Tristate

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12 MINUTES!

The turd was outside shooting at police and other people for 12 f-ing minutes after wrecking the truck and before entering the school.

WTF????
 

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Nations with strict gun control laws still have mass murders. Knifes and gasoline seem to be the choice but sarin gas has been used. So much evil in this world.
Reports are saying the officers broke protocol by not entering. Keep your emotions out of it. The cops screwed up, society screwed up.

You can paint the officers as heroes all you want I don’t care. But the mistakes made that day by law enforcement will be used in future training.
I feel your pain. You are free to believe any of the reports that are coming out hourly. Cnn, fox, msnbc, abc, cbs, nbc, whatever you watch we know the reporting is all the same right? You’re anti cop unless you need to report somebody for picking up a dead head, your emotions are hoping so hard that the cops really messed this up, it fits your agenda. You’ve got lots of questions but you won’t tell me what you would do. I posed a few tough questions for you. Crickets. A final report will come out soon, we shall see.
 

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12 MINUTES!

The turd was outside shooting at police and other people for 12 f-ing minutes after wrecking the truck and before entering the school.

WTF????
Are you getting all your facts like you claim others are getting all their facts on Wade Lemmon? Funny how the tide has turned with you…..
 

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I am going to add something here that no one is discussing. It isn't an answer and may only make more questions.

I was in Uvalde on Sunday.

On Sunday that town was absolutely crawling with cops. DPS, Border Patrol, and Uvalde PD are everywhere.

The governor is sending DPS officers in rotation to the border by the hundreds. You will think I am exaggerating but I promise I am not. Driving between Uvalde and Del Rio approximately every fifth vehicle is law enforcement. They are pulling people over left and right.

In Uvalde there is an entire hotel that is rented out to DPS. The entire parking lot is full of DPS vehicles. You can be anywhere in Uvalde in under 5 minutes. Probably 2 minutes if you aren't stopping at lights.

Maybe on Tuesday all the officers went out into the countryside looking for drug dealers. I don't know.

I have to believe within 15 minutes at least 50 heavily armed law men could have been on scene. From what I am hearing and seeing that was probably the case. There are videos of dozens of officers on scene when there is shooting inside.

I do understand facing a whacko with a deadly weapon is terrifying. It is staring death in the face. But if you aren't willing to do it hand your weapon to the man who is and get the hell out of the way. Keeping willing men out is doing nothing but allowing the shooter to organize and be more lethal.

Yes, the murderer could have killed those civilians if they had gone in. BUT THEY WERE THE ONLY MEN WILLING TO DIE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
Then why did only Law Enforcement get shot? Was the evil coward shooting at the donut shop and the cops just happened to get hit? For a guy who fights so hard to save some outfitters reputation based off of what you call hearsay and rumors you sure don’t mind throwing Cops under the bus before their ink can even dry on their reports. SMH….
 

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Putin and Hitler, Christians. so what more needs said ? are you talking some religion other than christanity? Muslims ? strike two. Jews ? strike 3 . so what religion is it that will save us ? this should be good.

I don't have to give up anything because I don't need man cards . the Heller decision protects every one of the 70+ guns I own and life is good. you're the ones with a problem. you really should read it so I don't have to keep dumbing everything down for you.

Back to the well regulated militia, nobody want to touch that do they ? good for you. but the fact is this kid did everything according to your chosen regulations right up until he pointed the gun at a person and pulled the trigger. he's not the first or the last. so you really need to regulate your militia a hell of a lot better wouldn't you say ? the majority of Americans have some regulations they approve of but you get butt hurt at any suggestion of regulations. do you see irony here ? probably not so if you loan me your crayons I can draw you some pictures.
Tog,
You shouldn't be allowed to have 70 plus guns. Especially anything that holds a 10 round clip. Like Slam suggested, you should be the first in line to give them up, maybe we'll follow
 

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I think that came
Are you getting all your facts like you claim others are getting all their facts on Wade Lemmon? Funny how the tide has turned with you…..


This was reported by DPS here. Now I wouldn't be surprised if something changes. They originally reported a school resource officer confronted the gunman outside of the school but did not fire any shots. Last night they reported that was not the case and no school resource officer was at the school at all. Right now the timeline is based upon specific established times of radio chatter, 911 calls, and both cctv and phone video. Its going to be pretty hard to screw up the timeline.

No tide has changed. I am trying to get facts reported from the Department of Public Safety. They are the authorities here right now.


I have not reported any gossip distributed by my cousins on our text thread.:ROFLMAO:
 

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please elaborate how being against arming teachers means someone hates guns?

I think all that time you spend cutting off sleeves and getting estrogen shots is affecting your thought process.
Please elaborate on how you can learn how to use a gun properly yet a teacher can’t?
 

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I think that came



This was reported by DPS here. Now I wouldn't be surprised if something changes. They originally reported a school resource officer confronted the gunman outside of the school but did not fire any shots. Last night they reported that was not the case and no school resource officer was at the school at all. Right now the timeline is based upon specific established times of radio chatter, 911 calls, and both cctv and phone video. Its going to be pretty hard to screw up the timeline.

No tide has changed. I am trying to get facts reported from the Department of Public Safety. They are the authorities here right now.


I have not reported any gossip distributed by my cousins on our text thread.:ROFLMAO:
“BUT THEY WERE THE ONLY MEN WILLING TO DIE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE”

So what DPS Trooper said this? What media outlet did you get this from? Are you spreading rumors based off of your opinion or did your primo tell you that?
 

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Then why did only Law Enforcement get shot? Was the evil coward shooting at the donut shop and the cops just happened to get hit? For a guy who fights so hard to save some outfitters reputation based off of what you call hearsay and rumors you sure don’t mind throwing Cops under the bus before their ink can even dry on their reports. SMH….


Slow down and read Bigfoot.

First I stated this.

" It isn't an answer and may only make more questions."

Then I state this.

"Maybe on Tuesday all the officers went out into the countryside looking for drug dealers. I don't know."


I am telling you from the get go I am not producing anything of value.

I was in Uvalde on Friday and Sunday. I did see an enormous police presence. THESE ARE FACTS I HAVE SCENE WITH MY OWN EYES. Not gossip given to me. Not second hand stuff reported to me. I know it to be true because I saw it first hand.
 

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Please elaborate on how you can learn how to use a gun properly yet a teacher can’t?
I never said they couldn’t learn to use a gun properly. If you can’t even read properly how are we suppose to believe you are going to make responsible decisions under stressful situations? And with a gun?

And you were supposedly teaching at some point during your career?

Maybe some of those clown cops took your class...
 

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I never said they couldn’t learn to use a gun properly. If you can’t even read properly how are we suppose to believe you are going to make responsible decisions under stressful situations? And with a gun?

And you were supposedly teaching at some point during your career?

Maybe some of those clown cops took your class...
😂 don’t you have hunters to report for picking up skulls?
 

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“BUT THEY WERE THE ONLY MEN WILLING TO DIE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE”

So what DPS Trooper said this? What media outlet did you get this from? Are you spreading rumors based off of your opinion or did your primo tell you that?


DPS didn't say that and that is my opinion.

I will be the first to admit that my opinion and a dollar will get you nothing more than a bag of chips.

DPS has confirmed people wanted to enter the school when there was still shooting inside but law enforcement would not allow them.
 

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DPS didn't say that and that is my opinion.

I will be the first to admit that my opinion and a dollar will get you nothing more than a bag of chips.

DPS has confirmed people wanted to enter the school when there was still shooting inside but law enforcement would not allow them.
Should civilians have been allowed to enter an active shooter area?
 

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😂 don’t you have hunters to report for picking up skulls?
That’s what I thought. Back down. Go ahead and mock me for turning in someone for breaking the law. The closest you became to being a cop was at the local mall.

How many quarters did you have to put in the machine to finally get your badge? Or did you get it in a box of cracker jacks?
 

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That’s what I thought. Back down. Go ahead and mock me for turning in someone for breaking the law. The closest you became to being a cop was at the local mall.

How many quarters did you have to put in the machine to finally get your badge? Or did you get it in a box of cracker jacks?
😂 you’re like a little girl running on pure emotion. You mock the cops for getting shot in the line of duty trying to save 600 children and then you whine about getting mocked. Your comments have been anti cop since day one I signed up here, that’s ok, cops even protect guys like you. To think a grown ass man would call somebody out over a picture of a skull and threaten to report them to the Police, the same type of Police he mocks and obviously can’t stand is just so juvenile. My property is full of dead skulls, call 911. 😆
 

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So dead mommy’s and daddy’s leaving parentless children is ok in your book? I believe that school housed 600 children. I respect your opinion.
Hell no its not okay. But there is no win here. No matter what. Just different levels of loss. No magic bullet. No supermen. Just a big turd sandwich that everybody has to bite into.
 

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I never said they couldn’t learn to use a gun properly. If you can’t even read properly how are we suppose to believe you are going to make responsible decisions under stressful situations? And with a gun?

And you were supposedly teaching at some point during your career?

Maybe some of those clown cops took your class...
I coordinated and taught Active Shooter classes when I was a Border Patrol Agent. A Border Patrol Agent killed that coward dead, dead, dead, he was DRT, Dead Right There..
 

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😂 you’re like a little girl running on pure emotion. You mock the cops for getting shot in the line of duty trying to save 600 children and then you whine about getting mocked. Your comments have been anti cop since day one I signed up here, that’s ok, cops even protect guys like you. To think a grown ass man would call somebody out over a picture of a skull and threaten to report them to the Police, the same type of Police he mocks and obviously can’t stand is just so juvenile. My property is full of dead skulls, call 911. 😆
Please show me where I mocked them cops. I’m not denying it, likely I did but please show me.

New Mexico has different laws regarding deadheads. So I don’t care what you do. Interesting you supposedly being an ex cop upset over someone turning someone in for breaking the law. One could only imagine what type of cop you were. One thing is for sure, you have no respect for wildlife laws. You’ve proven that.

I’m guessing 20 quarters...
 

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I coordinated and taught Active Shooter classes when I was a Border Patrol Agent. A Border Patrol Agent killed that coward dead, dead, dead, he was DRT, Dead Right There..
Yes yes yes we all know. You’ve told us all a million times. Yeah he killed the guy, at least 40 mins after law enforcement arrived and he was done shooting kids and waiting for the cops.

I see why you are vomiting all over this thread. You went to bed proud a border patrol agent killed the guy. Whatever trips your trigger.
 

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Please show me where I mocked them cops. I’m not denying it, likely I did but please show me.

New Mexico has different laws regarding deadheads. So I don’t care what you do. Interesting you supposedly being an ex cop upset over someone turning someone in for breaking the law. One could only imagine what type of cop you were. One thing is for sure, you have no respect for wildlife laws. You’ve proven that.

I’m guessing 20 quarters...
It was 25 quarters. I have heads from, Mexico, NM, Texas and Arkansas. That should keep you busy. You sound like the kind of citizen that sets his cruise control on 65 and then dials 911 whenever somebody passes you doing 70.
 

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It was 25 quarters. I have heads from, Mexico, NM, Texas and Arkansas. That should keep you busy. You sound like the kind of citizen that sets his cruise control on 65 and then dials 911 whenever somebody passes you doing 70.
Ok. So with you being a cop we have established you have no respect for wildlife laws and now traffic laws. I could only imagine what you think of child porn laws.

🎤
 

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Maybe you should move over to the kids section if the truth upsets you so much.
Good one. The truth is you can’t handle an intelligent conversation and immediately revert to name calling and insults. It’s ok you’re safe behind your keyboard.

Btw way to make this tragedy about you.
 

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There ya go…
I think that is part of why there are a lot of angry people here.

If it is true that there was a lot of time where no officers were confronting the shooter IF. BIG IF, then some people who the public puts their trust in weren't willing to take that bite.

Don't be upset that people have expectations of their public servants.
 

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It was 25 quarters. I have heads from, Mexico, NM, Texas and Arkansas. That should keep you busy. You sound like the kind of citizen that sets his cruise control on 65 and then dials 911 whenever somebody passes you doing 70.
Pretty weak come back. Oh and you should have waited 40mins to respond.
 

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Yes yes yes we all know. You’ve told us all a million times. Yeah he killed the guy, at least 40 mins after law enforcement arrived and he was done shooting kids and waiting for the cops.

I see why you are vomiting all over this thread. You went to bed proud a border patrol agent killed the guy. Whatever trips your trigger.
I care that evil is dead. You want to place blame everywhere but on evil. Im just trying to shed a little light on Law Enforcement procedures for people like you who have no knowledge what it takes in a situation of this nature. It’s much easier to shoot a stationary animal across canyon than it is to shoot a man who is shooting back at you with the intent of killing you before he dies. Remember the next time you report a dead head you’re taking an officer out of the field to investigate your claim which could lead to an extended response time for a tragic incident that is occurring or about to occur.
 

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I think that is part of why there are a lot of angry people here.

If it is true that there was a lot of time where no officers were confronting the shooter IF. BIG IF, then some people who the public puts their trust in weren't willing to take that bite.

Don't be upset that people have expectations of their public servants.
You are absolutely correct. We are jumping to many conclusions due to 24/7 media coverage. Every media outlet is vying to be the first to air anything for viewership. A lot of things get lost in the weeds and some things just get made up for ratings.
 

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Good one. The truth is you can’t handle an intelligent conversation and immediately revert to name calling and insults. It’s ok you’re safe behind your keyboard.

Btw way to make this tragedy about you.
It’s ok you use two accounts to attack me. Listen if you can’t take what you’re dishing out you should really move along. You have yet to refute anything I’ve posted, if I’m wrong I will admit it and apologize. Now switch over to that other account and attack me.You’re not fooling anybody.
 

Bigfoot 1

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Ok. So with you being a cop we have established you have no respect for wildlife laws and now traffic laws. I could only imagine what you think of child porn laws.

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Bingo!

That’s your problem, you IMAGINE everything! You have NO PROOF of anything!
 

Grouse Legs

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It’s ok you use two accounts to attack me. Listen if you can’t take what you’re dishing out you should really move along. You have yet to refute anything I’ve posted, if I’m wrong I will admit it and apologize. Now switch over to that other account and attack me.You’re not fooling anybody.
Haha apparently you have been fooled cause I only only got one account. You just need attention. Have a nice day living on the tax payers dime. I’m gonna go make a living in the free market so we can support dead weight like you.
 

2lumpy

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I’m quickly becoming ashamed of myself for ever commenting on this topic. I sincerely apologize and promise I’ll never read another word on this thread.
 

Togwotee

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Blaming " evil " is a dumb thing to say. evil only exists in evil people's minds it's not a virus and there's no cure . some act on it some don't.

Ukraine has nothing to do with this and neither does money. what Putin is doing makes what our mass shooters do look like a picnic. if this nation won't stand up to Putin and his actions we're doomed so none of this matters.

As far as turning schools into Alcatraz and putting 400 robo cops outside that's fine if that's the world you want. but what about the other 350 million people who aren't in school ? phuk them ? what would your school guard's and cops have done for the shoppers in Buffalo ? maybe we need to look at the real problem and stop making stupid excuses and coming up with dumb ideas.
 

Gadjet

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This thread has gone totally stupid! Look at you guys arguing like a bunch of crybabies! It's really sad that this is happening all across the country every damn time a "good crisis" happens. You're all playing right into the hands of the elitist pricks that want this great country divided! Without a doubt this is a tragic act by evil, but don't let it distract you enough to take your eyes off the ball.

Now, what about Hunters laptop? And when are we going to see the list of high profile pukes that visited Pedophile island?

I feel better now
 

Grouse Legs

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This thread has gone totally stupid! Look at you guys arguing like a bunch of crybabies! It's really sad that this is happening all across the country every damn time a "good crisis" happens. You're all playing right into the hands of the elitist pricks that want this great country divided! Without a doubt this is a tragic act by evil, but don't let it distract you enough to take your eyes off the ball.

Now, what about Hunters laptop? And when are we going to see the list of high profile pukes that visited Pedophile island?

I feel better now
You are right. I apologize for my part. My full respect to the kids and families involved in the shooting
 

Ropinfool

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society has become very violent. it's in everything, movies, video games, tv, etc. sex and violence are thrown in the face of everybody, especially our kids. and with cell phones, our kids have access to anything. how do you think this affects them? well we're seeing it. they can't problem solve, they can't deal with life's issues. we all know that guns are just a small part of the problem. this kid should have never have had a gun. where were his parents? how did he get the money? how come nobody was paying attention to what he was doing? unless those issues are addressed with todays kids, bad things will keep happening. this country is being run by hypocrits. they fight tooth and nail to allow a woman to kill her baby, fight to not allow prayer in our schools, and then say "we are better than this". but we aren't, we are reaping what we sow.
 

DH56

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We( Govt and politicians) also like to ignore some important information to further their agenda in the political arena-instead of trying to determine the real cause to save lives, they continue to only consider the easy political "hot button" of Gun Control.

As sad as this was for those Kids and adults killed, this won't be the last one that will happen.

"Glick's team studied 35 mass shooting cases that occurred in the United States between 1982 and 2019 and involved shooters who survived and were brought to trial.

Analysis of various sources of medical evidence on the mass shooters showed that 28 had mental illness diagnoses. Eighteen had schizophrenia and 10 had other diagnoses including bipolar disorder, delusional disorder, personality disorders and substance-related disorders.

Of the 28 shooters with a mental illness diagnosis, none were medicated or received other treatment for their disorders prior to their crimes, according to the study published recently in the Journal of Clinical Psychopharmacology.

Glick and his colleagues also examined 20 mass shooters who died at the crime scene and found that eight had schizophrenia, seven had other mental health diagnoses, and five had unknown diagnoses. None were receiving appropriate medications.
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slicktrick

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Togwotee
I git one derios question please answer if you can.
Shootings of this nature this often did not happen before Colombian, yes I have heard the reports of mass shootings back to the 1950, but not as frequent as they happen now.
My question is why is it happening now as often as it is happening, what has changed since the 1980's?
BECAUSE THEY TOOK GOD OUT OF THE SCHOOLS ! They took the parents roles and responsibility away for time outs instead of getting punished. We get fed all this propaganda bullshit on tv and it makes it ok ! Every commercial is either gay couples- sex or drugs. just a little bit at a time and then its full time and we get used to it and start thinking its ok. News channels and papers only report what they get paid to report. sex adds on Craigslist- sex videos on tik-tok- all of them conditioning us and are kids to this crap to make it the new normal. no more prayers at schools- no bibles in the library- no praying in the locker room before the game or on the field- because it might offend someones feeling. Just some of the things and reasons we are the way we are now! I could carry my gun to school and a knife and on the way home from school hunt along the way- not anymore. The world has gone to **** and i hate it for my kids, and my grand kids.
I'll bet the entire agenda of the NRA convention has suddenly changed......unfortunately.

I don't know what has changed in the world we live in now, but something sure as hell has!!
 

notdonhunting

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Blaming " evil " is a dumb thing to say. evil only exists in evil people's minds it's not a virus and there's no cure . some act on it some don't.

Can you say Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Heinrich Himmler.

As far as turning schools into Alcatraz and putting 400 robo cops outside that's fine if that's the world you want. but what about the other 350 million people who aren't in school ? phuk them ? what would your school guard's and cops have done for the shoppers in Buffalo ? maybe we need to look at the real problem and stop making stupid excuses and coming up with dumb ideas.

What did we do after 9/11.
Did we make box cutters illegal?
Did we make Muslims illegal to ever take fly lessons?

We took security measures to keep the evil guy off of the flight.
Some the measures we took I don't agree with, but I can still buy a box cutter.
 

SS!

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BECAUSE THEY TOOK GOD OUT OF THE SCHOOLS ! They took the parents roles and responsibility away for time outs instead of getting punished. We get fed all this propaganda bullshit on tv and it makes it ok ! Every commercial is either gay couples- sex or drugs. just a little bit at a time and then its full time and we get used to it and start thinking its ok. News channels and papers only report what they get paid to report. sex adds on Craigslist- sex videos on tik-tok- all of them conditioning us and are kids to this crap to make it the new normal. no more prayers at schools- no bibles in the library- no praying in the locker room before the game or on the field- because it might offend someones feeling. Just some of the things and reasons we are the way we are now! I could carry my gun to school and a knife and on the way home from school hunt along the way- not anymore. The world has gone to **** and i hate it for my kids, and my grand kids.
:ROFLMAO: -> 😱 -> :unsure:
 

roadrunner

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Blaming " evil " is a dumb thing to say. evil only exists in evil people's minds it's not a virus and there's no cure . some act on it some don't.

You do realize this part of your post contradicts itself, don't you?

Evil is a state of mind, evil is an action from that state of mind that some people act on and some don't, blaming evil is dumb because it's not a real thing to even act on...

Nice try, but a fail nevertheless.
 

Bluehair

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You do realize this part of your post contradicts itself, don't you?

Evil is a state of mind, evil is an action from that state of mind that some people act on and some don't, blaming evil is dumb because it's not a real thing to even act on...

Nice try, but a fail nevertheless.
Be honest, you were the hall monitor at school weren’t you.
 

elkassassin

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dude contradicting Himself?

I've Said since The First Post He Ever Made He Does And Will Argue With Himself!

That's Just How F'N Hard-Headed He is!



You do realize this part of your post contradicts itself, don't you?

Evil is a state of mind, evil is an action from that state of mind that some people act on and some don't, blaming evil is dumb because it's not a real thing to even act on...

Nice try, but a fail nevertheless.
 

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