Yet another school shooting

Togwotee

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Now that Trump is nothing more than a powerless old fat lying orange loser rather than a old fat lying orange loser he's become entertaining. I can't wait to hear what stupid thing he says does next or what his next loss will be. is it's fun watching him swirl in the bowl .

Evil is in a person's mind and actions, I didn't say evil didn't exist I said you can't focus on evil as whatshisface suggested because it's like a memory there's no way to take it or control it unless you're Spock maybe. just do whatever is needed to stop the shooter from having the ability because you're never going to mind screw him out of his intentions.

Pickett I'll give you this, you might be batchit crazy but you have a sense of humor that's redeeming. bobcat is simply crazy.
 

elkassassin

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simply crazy as in what?
Now that Trump is nothing more than a powerless old fat lying orange loser rather than a old fat lying orange loser he's become entertaining. I can't wait to hear what stupid thing he says does next or what his next loss will be. is it's fun watching him swirl in the bowl .

Evil is in a person's mind and actions, I didn't say evil didn't exist I said you can't focus on evil as whatshisface suggested because it's like a memory there's no way to take it or control it unless you're Spock maybe. just do whatever is needed to stop the shooter from having the ability because you're never going to mind screw him out of his intentions.

Pickett I'll give you this, you might be batchit crazy but you have a sense of humor that's redeeming. bobcat is simply crazy.
 

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You guys are nuts if you think it took 40 minutes from the time the first officers arrived to go inside that school. You will soon find out the truth.
Well?

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Now that Trump is nothing more than a powerless old fat lying orange loser rather than a old fat lying orange loser he's become entertaining. I can't wait to hear what stupid thing he says does next or what his next loss will be. is it's fun watching him swirl in the bowl .

Evil is in a person's mind and actions, I didn't say evil didn't exist I said you can't focus on evil as whatshisface suggested because it's like a memory there's no way to take it or control it unless you're Spock maybe. just do whatever is needed to stop the shooter from having the ability because you're never going to mind screw him out of his intentions.

Pickett I'll give you this, you might be batchit crazy but you have a sense of humor that's redeeming. bobcat is simply crazy.

Evil is merely the opposite of good. When someone does a selfless act of service to the benefit and betterment of another, I guess you can't blame good using your "logic".

So, what do you blame then? You can't blame the person, evil or good is dumb to assign credit, right?

Can't blame the gun, it's incapable of thought and action.

This should be good...
 

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Can anybody help me understand why these shootings only happen in any regularity in America?

Other countries have lower two-parent households but don't have these shootings. Other countries have less religious participation but don't have these shootings. Other countries play violent video games but don't have these shootings. Other countries have mental illness but don't have these shootings. I can't figure it out.

These shootings happen in California, Texas, and New York so it's not as simple as gun control.

Iceland has 90,000 guns and they didn't have a murder with a firearm between 2007 and 2018... ELEVEN YEARS WITHOUT A SINGLE GUN MURDER. They didn't have a police shooting between 1944 and 2013. That's 69 consecutive years!

However, if you look into Iceland's gun control, it's very strict. Is their low gun violence rate due to successful gun control laws, or something else?

PS. Twenty years ago, Iceland had 90% of it's population self-identify as religious; today it's less than 50%. In the last poll on religion, not a single young person responded that Earth was created by God. Not one. So religion is not it either.

EDIT - I just checked, we have the highest rate of incarceration in the world, right above Rwanda, so that's not it.

I really don't know what's wrong with us.


Ask every dude in here who their state rep is.

Then ask them who the school shooter is.

There's your answer.

Or to quote Emilio Estavez in Young guns, "I'll make you famous".


As a side note.

Canada's defense department is preparing for the collapse of America. Is anyone surprised?
 

Togwotee

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Kind of makes the good guy with a gun propaganda seem a little less believable than it already was doesn't it ?

what you need to change your rhetoric to is " a good guy with a gun willing to commit suicide " . you know , like the ex cop in Buffalo. and after the white supremacist killed him he went on to kill more.
 

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Can anybody help me understand why these shootings only happen in any regularity in America?

Lotsa words by grizzly

I really don't know what's wrong with us.
grizzly, that is the problem...we are the problem.

Take a look at the number of murders/violent crimes without guns.

I'll bet your left nut that we still lead the world.
 

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More people are killed with bare hands and feet than all types of long guns combined. Until we address the issue if broken homes, and subsequent mental illness in this country, this stuff will only get worse. And the idiots in power will continue to bark up the wrong tree.
 

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Kind of makes the good guy with a gun propaganda seem a little less believable than it already was doesn't it ?

what you need to change your rhetoric to is " a good guy with a gun willing to commit suicide " . you know , like the ex cop in Buffalo. and after the white supremacist killed him he went on to kill more.
Please make a coherent statement.
 

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More people are killed with bare hands and feet than all types of long guns combined. Until we address the issue if broken homes, and subsequent mental illness in this country, this stuff will only get worse. And the idiots in power will continue to bark up the wrong tree.
Guns are apparently the leading cause of death for children now. That won’t play well for us going forward, regardless of the mathematical masturbations we try to hide the facts behind.

Nor will the implicit approval of the ”right” of sociopaths and other mentally defective miscreants to own weapons, as is displayed here.
 

feddoc

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And, when did school shootings start? 1903 - 1966; 3 shootings.

The correlation is there, but is there a causal factor(s)?
 

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His mental illness didn't start the day he turned 18, The problem didn't start with this president either. IT'S a nation problem that has to be seen and taken care of.
I have no answers on how to weed out the crazy ones. Maybe start in grade school with test to seeing if your Butt ass crazy.
 

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The COP of the school district pissed this away.


Federal customs agents DEFIED local Texas police chief to kill school shooter: SWAT team overruled dithering cops and burst into class to shoot gunman dead when he jumped out of closet after killing 19 children
Pete Arredondo, chief of police for the Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District, had stopped at least 19 officers from breaking into the school
Steven McCraw, director of Texas Department of Public Safety, said Arredondo mistakenly believed the gunman was contained and no longer a threat
Two federal sources told NBC that teams of border patrol agents from their tactical division were on the scene by 12:00-12:15pm, but told to wait
They stood around for 30 minutes before taking matters into their own hands and deciding to storm the school
Arredondo is yet to appear at any press briefings but officials are facing increasingly angry questions about their handling of the attack

Federal officers overruled local Texas police to storm the Uvalde school where a gunman was killing children - thirty minutes after being told not to go into the building a report has claimed.

The armed officers from Border Patrol and Homeland Security arriving on the scene of the Texas school shooting were told by the local police chief not to go into the building, according to a report, but after a maddening 30 minutes overruled him and stormed the site.
 

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At a news briefing on Friday, Texas Department of Public Safety Director Steve McCraw revealed that a teacher at the elementary school had propped open a side door just before the shooter arrived on campus and began his deadly rampage.

Robb Elementary was reportedly supposed to have a single point of entry where those seeking access during school hours would be required to be buzzed in, but the propped-open door negated that protocol.
 

grizzly

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So The Door Was Mysteriously Propped Open Just at The Right Time For The JOKER To Walk In?
The teacher had propped the door open to go out to their car. The teacher witnessed the crash, saw the guy with the gun shoot at workers from a nearby funeral home and was the first person to call 911.

The first officer responding to the scene incorrectly identified the teacher in the parking lot as the shooter and initially drove in that direction, unknowingly driving past the actual shooter hiding behind a car.
 

grizzly

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Go back and re read my post everyone calls crazy. It’s a couple pages back now
Your posts are MUST SEE READING!

I love that you see something like a teacher going out to their car to get a phone charger as evidence that they are part of a group of secret "forces" that are willing to kill hundreds of innocent people as part of a plot to advance a conspiratorial agenda to take over the world.
 

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And right when government approval is lower then ever, an election year and a rabid gun control agenda being pushed. Man, what luck
 

hossblur

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So.

We can ban AR-15, create "red flag" laws that every ex wife, crazy mom in law, nosy Karen will exploit, take rights from 18 yr olds(as we ramp up sending them to Ukraine.

Or, conversely.

Perhaps the lock out system in schools is there for a reason, and propping open a door because you're too lazy to touch your badge to a lock, should be addressed?

Maybe, we should ban all laziness?


No grand conspiracy needed.
 

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I'm curious how the 18 year old kid lived with his Grandmother had money for 2 AR weapons plus 375 rounds ammo in one purchase.
 

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What about windows in the classrooms? Do those have to remain shut and locked?

I’m sure it was hot as hell last week in uvalde it sucks a school can’t leave a door open for fresh air anymore in clown world.

I can’t stand stuffy buildings full of people with no fresh air. Now it’s gonna be standard for kids and teachers?

Rough
 

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And if we are talking conspiracies...

What’s the likelihood of these school shooters being radicalized (for lack of a better word) into these shootings on the Internet?

I saw some speculation somewhere that the uvalde shooter and the buffalo shooter had been in contact with the same group or person on discord
 

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I'm curious how the 18 year old kid lived with his Grandmother had money for 2 AR weapons plus 375 rounds ammo in one purchase.

Him having 2 parents and living with his grandma is pretty telling.

I'm sure S&W caused that situation though. Better ban them🙄

Think we will address the absentee father part of all this violence in kids shooting others?

Is "baby mammas" a culprit?

Should we look at the number of kids born into single parent households?

"Hadn't seen his son in months". That was his dad's answer

Gee, why would a young boy have rage issues?
 

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Him having 2 parents and living with his grandma is pretty telling.

I'm sure S&W caused that situation though. Better ban them🙄

Think we will address the absentee father part of all this violence in kids shooting others?

Is "baby mammas" a culprit?

Should we look at the number of kids born into single parent households?

"Hadn't seen his son in months". That was his dad's answer

Gee, why would a young boy have rage issues?
...then society trains them to be as wierd and F'd up as they want....boys can pretend to be girls, girls can pretend to be boys.....it's all ok and "normal"....

The left are like the Chinese.....they always play the long game...
 

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I'm curious how the 18 year old kid lived with his Grandmother had money for 2 AR weapons plus 375 rounds ammo in one purchase.
Its called a job. I had one since I was 15 and had money to buy rifles, ammo, archery gear, hunting licenses, etc.

Not sure why you're curious about that?
 

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Him having 2 parents and living with his grandma is pretty telling.

I'm sure S&W caused that situation though. Better ban them🙄

Think we will address the absentee father part of all this violence in kids shooting others?

Is "baby mammas" a culprit?

Should we look at the number of kids born into single parent households?

"Hadn't seen his son in months". That was his dad's answer

Gee, why would a young boy have rage issues?
Here's a great idea, lets ban abortion so we can shove more kids into similar situations.

And we wonder why these shootings are happening more?

Its just a mystery...
 

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...then society trains them to be as wierd and F'd up as they want....boys can pretend to be girls, girls can pretend to be boys.....it's all ok and "normal"....

The left are like the Chinese.....they always play the long game...
Maybe if their parents didn't have to work 60 hours a week to make ends meet, so that some billionaire can make another billion, they wouldn't have to "let society" raise their kids.
 

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So until democrats emerged on the scene there were no gays ? can you prove that Mahmoud ? or do you mean they just had to hide it or be killed. ah, back when America was great.

I get tired of seeing fags on tv too but that's no excuse for a straight 18 year old kid to legally buy a gun and shoot up a school in the real world.

The MAGATS are like the N Koreans.... they play the dear leader will tell us what to think game..
 

elkassassin

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Hey dude?

How Many CROWNS Did That Take?

until democrats emerged on the scene there were no gays ? can you prove that Mahmoud ? or do you mean they just had to hide it or be killed. ah, back when America was great.

I get tired of seeing fags on tv too but that's no excuse for a straight 18 year old kid to legally buy a gun and shoot up a school in the real world.

The MAGATS are like the N Koreans.... they play the dear leader will tell us what to think game..
 

elkassassin

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One More Thing Tog!

I Heard The Guy You Voted For JACKIN His JAW Sayin He's Gonna Cut Off School Lunches if The Whole US School Systems Don't Start Letting Girls in to Boys Bathrooms & Vise-Versa!

Quite a Threat Right There!

You Voting For Him again Next Time?
 

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Maybe if their parents didn't have to work 60 hours a week to make ends meet, so that some billionaire can make another billion, they wouldn't have to "let society" raise their kids.
I will not argue with that...
 

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Here's a great idea, lets ban abortion so we can shove more kids into similar situations.

And we wonder why these shootings are happening more?

Its just a mystery...
Your answer to kids being killed is really kill more kids?

And I’m the nut job huh?
 

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Its called a job. I had one since I was 15 and had money to buy rifles, ammo, archery gear, hunting licenses, etc.

Not sure why you're curious about that?
I heard he had a 70k truck also. So I am curious if that is true where did all that money come from? Inheritance? No , he didn't come from a family with money.
Also, why did Homeland security know about his internet threats and do nothing? They pick up on almost any threat through linguistic recognition. We learned that from Edward Snowden many years ago.
So did this suit the purposes of moving forward towards more loss of rights, and control over citizens ? I listen to lots of commentaries and some of this is a topic.
My wife asked for some help so I didn't go back and edit . Are you always so ignorant Buzz ?
 
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...then society trains them to be as wierd and F'd up as they want....boys can pretend to be girls, girls can pretend to be boys.....it's all ok and "normal"....

The left are like the Chinese.....they always play the long game...
It started out with gay marriage....ok

Then boys in girls' sports.....ok

Now this....ok

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North Carolina preschool uses LGBT flashcards depicting a pregnant man to teach kids colors​


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Your answer to kids being killed is really kill more kids?

And I’m the nut job huh?
Yes, you're insane. You do nothing, or at best the same thing, over and over again expecting different results.

The very definition defines you.
 

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It started out with gay marriage....ok

Then boys in girls' sports.....ok

Now this....ok

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North Carolina preschool uses LGBT flashcards depicting a pregnant man to teach kids colors​


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How tf is that even real? Just full scale clown world
 

BuzzH

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I heard he had a 70k truck also. So I am curious if tgat us true where did all that money come from? Inheritance? No , he didn't come from a family with money.
Also, why did Homeland security know about his internet threats and do nothing? They pick up in almost that threat linguistic. We learned that from Edward Snowden many years ago.
So did this suit the purposes of moving forward towards more loss of rights and control o er citizens ?
Could you rephrase, this time in something that makes sense, doesn't read like it was written by a 2nd grader, and perhaps without a dozen grammar and spelling errors?
 

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Yes, you're insane. You do nothing, or at best the same thing, over and over again expecting different results.

The very definition defines you.
Do tell what you’ve “done”? Can’t wait to hear the difference you must have personally made to make such a comment
 

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How tf is that even real? Just full scale clown world
Who says it is real? Because Faux news told you it is? Hilarious that the MSM is not to be believed, but some are buying this chit hook, line, sinker.

Just like the gunman dressed up in a skirt...that wasn't true either, but the idiots thought it was.

People are gullible and look for confirmation bias via memes, facebook, instragram, etc. for their beliefs, news, and faux outrage.
 

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Who says it is real? Because Faux news told you it is? Hilarious that the MSM is not to be believed, but some are buying this chit hook, line, sinker.

Just like the gunman dressed up in a skirt...that wasn't true either, but the idiots thought it was.

People are gullible and look for confirmation bias via memes, facebook, instragram, etc. for their beliefs, news, and faux outrage.
Yeah that’s why I phrased it as a question. Because things are so crazy in this world it’s hard to tell what’s real. But it very well could be real.

No wonder the kids are going crazy.
 

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Come on buzz. Tell me the difference you’ve made?!! You turn in all your guns? Or is just promoting killing kids to save kids your big contribution?
 

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Here's a great idea, lets ban abortion so we can shove more kids into similar situations.

And we wonder why these shootings are happening more?

Its just a mystery...


Here's 2 better.

Keep it in your pants.
or
Step up and be a man.

You know, self control and responsibility.

Funny how as both control got cheaper, more widely available, and with more options, there are more baby mamas.

It's almost as if culture is at play.
 

hossblur

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Come on buzz. Tell me the difference you’ve made?!! You turn in all your guns? Or is just promoting killing kids to save kids your big contribution?


Buzz lives in Wyoming, where he is free to spout off all the left leaning, stupid crap, while never having to live with the consequences, as Wyoming is a red state.

Grizz lives in Utah. Same answer.

Notice neither hauled Azz for Oregon, or California?

I wonder why
 

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Your answer to kids being killed is really kill more kids?

And I’m the nut job huh?
It explains alot about him for sure. So many pro abortionists either have no moral compass and also don't know how it destroys the life of the woman who had the abortion along with the life that was created. I do know a woman who never recovered from the shame and heartbreak that came after the procedure.
 

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It explains alot about him for sure. So many pro abortionists either have no moral compass and also don't know how it destroys the life of the woman who had the abortion along with the life that was created. I do know a woman who never recovered from the shame and heartbreak that came after the procedure.
Maybe she should be more responsible with her decisions and pull herself up by her bootstraps.

Where have I heard that before?
 

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Come on buzz. Tell me the difference you’ve made?!! You turn in all your guns? Or is just promoting killing kids to save kids your big contribution?
You know that's a good question, and I'll answer it even though you won't like it.

For starters, I don't belong to a fake organization that teaches people to hate other people because they don't believe in a fairytale. That tells people they should hate people different than them or that freedom of choice should be taken away because of something akin to Aesop's fables. They exist to make themselves feel better about themselves and to do so, they need someone to demean, someone to vilify, a common enemy they can feel superior to.

I also contribute money to 2 colleges to fund scholarships, one my Alma Mater, the other in the town I live in. Scholarships given to students I don't know that hopefully results in them having an opportunity that they may not otherwise would have.

I'm also helping to pay for college for 2 kids that aren't mine, for the same reason. They may not otherwise get the chance.

I'm also a sucker for helping local schools when they have specific needs not covered by the State.

I also invest time money, and effort into politicians that have empathy for people other than their rich mega-donors, who give not one chit about anything other than making another billion. Politicians that understand and want to help the very real struggles that a lot of people in this country experience. Which causes a loss of hope, depression, desperation, etc. that leads to all kinds of things, like school shootings, crime, drug and alcohol abuse, etc. I'm also keen on politicians that aren't willing to farm out work our middle class could do so that, once again, a billionaire can make another billion doing so. I'm also not keen on giant corporate mergers that many politicians allow, resulting in the American public that works for a living taking it on the chin. Once again, so a billionaire or three can make another billion at the expense of the 99.999999999% who aren't.

I also contribute time, effort, and money to lobby Congress for Workers Rights. You know, building a viable and vibrant middle class, lifting folks into that class that currently cant, often through no fault of their own. Things like affordable health care, living wages, better nutrition in schools, training, safety at work, equal pay for equal work. Give people hope that their hard work be rewarded so they can, at least, afford the basics. A single bedroom apartment, a used vehicle to drive, health care, healthy food to eat, and maybe even save enough to retire with enough to cover those things the last few years of their lives. Or maybe allow them to save enough to give their kids a better life or a better chance than they had. Or, even heaven forbid, a family vacation once a year.

We're the wealthiest nation on earth, but we can't figure out how to raise the boat for everyone.

That's what I do, what I consider the minimum, and wish I had the time and resources to do more, but I don't.

These are the questions that need to be asked:

 

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Ya had me on board there for just a split second, but then……… nope, ya let her jump the track again.
A single Mom on welfare has to pull herself up by her bootstraps, another makes a decision to have an abortion and not supposed to do the same? Gee, its almost like you're picking winners and losers...

Hypocrisy much?
 

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You know that's a good question, and I'll answer it even though you won't like it.

For starters, I don't belong to a fake organization that teaches people to hate other people because they don't believe in a fairytale. That tells people they should hate people different than them or that freedom of choice should be taken away because of something akin to Aesop's fables. They exist to make themselves feel better about themselves and to do so, they need someone to demean, someone to vilify, a common enemy they can feel superior to.

I also contribute money to 2 colleges to fund scholarships, one my Alma Mater, the other in the town I live in. Scholarships given to students I don't know that hopefully results in them having an opportunity that they may not otherwise would have.

I'm also helping to pay for college for 2 kids that aren't mine, for the same reason. They may not otherwise get the chance.

I'm also a sucker for helping local schools when they have specific needs not covered by the State.

I also invest time money, and effort into politicians that have empathy for people other than their rich mega-donors, who give not one chit about anything other than making another billion. Politicians that understand and want to help the very real struggles that a lot of people in this country experience. Which causes a loss of hope, depression, desperation, etc. that leads to all kinds of things, like school shootings, crime, drug and alcohol abuse, etc. I'm also keen on politicians that aren't willing to farm out work our middle class could do so that, once again, a billionaire can make another billion doing so. I'm also not keen on giant corporate mergers that many politicians allow, resulting in the American public that works for a living taking it on the chin. Once again, so a billionaire or three can make another billion at the expense of the 99.999999999% who aren't.

I also contribute time, effort, and money to lobby Congress for Workers Rights. You know, building a viable and vibrant middle class, lifting folks into that class that currently cant, often through no fault of their own. Things like affordable health care, living wages, better nutrition in schools, training, safety at work, equal pay for equal work. Give people hope that their hard work be rewarded so they can, at least, afford the basics. A single bedroom apartment, a used vehicle to drive, health care, healthy food to eat, and maybe even save enough to retire with enough to cover those things the last few years of their lives. Or maybe allow them to save enough to give their kids a better life or a better chance than they had. Or, even heaven forbid, a family vacation once a year.

We're the wealthiest nation on earth, but we can't figure out how to raise the boat for everyone.

That's what I do, what I consider the minimum, and wish I had the time and resources to do more, but I don't.

These are the questions that need to be asked:

So you haven’t turned your guns in?
 

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Yes, you're insane. You do nothing, or at best the same thing, over and over again expecting different results.

The very definition defines you.
Seeing your garbage response to my question it appears you’ve also done nothing in relation to gun control making us equally insane?

Just trying to follow along here cuz your so smart. Tell me if im close please
 

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Seeing your garbage response to my question it appears you’ve also done nothing in relation to gun control making us equally insane?

Just trying to follow along here cuz your so smart. Tell me if im close please
It's you're, because and I'm.

I'm not doing chit about gun control, nothing to do about it.

America is a gun culture, to the point of infatuation. We just have to accept that schools, churches, and concerts are going to get shot up and people die.

I'm cool with that, statistically I'm at very little risk, I don't go to church, I'm no longer a student, and I hate concerts.
 

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A single Mom on welfare has to pull herself up by her bootstraps, another makes a decision to have an abortion and not supposed to do the same? Gee, its almost like you're picking winners and losers...

Hypocrisy much?
A woman, on welfare or a woman eating from a gold spoon, makes a choice.

I’m pro choice, when it come to a woman’s right to invite/allow a male to impregnate her. That’s her choice and she was and always must be free to make it.

The dirty little secret is: There are no second choices, from there forward she only has responsibilities..,,, for the choice she made.

See, it’s the same, for all choices…. all humans make. Once you make the choice, you own the consequences.

There is a misguided believe that you can undo your first choice…….. you can’t. That not only applies to the free choice to have sex or jump from a cliff.

One choice, that’s it.

Pretending there are Infinite choices does not make it a fact. There aren’t, only actions and reactions….. based on the first choice.

There in lies our 2023 century misconception and we’re all feeling the consequences of thinking we can, just because we want to.

It’s no different than leaping of the cliff believing you or I are not going to hit the ground. Believing we won’t, doesn’t stop reality from visiting our sorry butt when we hit the ground.

Presently…… we’re on our way down, screaming, “we’re not falling”. My recommend is, brace yourself.
 

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I'm not doing chit about gun control, nothing to do about it.
Got it. 20 post or so ago me not doing anything about “it” made me insane. Now you not doing anything about it maintains your moral superiority.

Gotta love the left. What a fairy tail land you douche bags live in. Keep it coming. This is better then cable TV
 

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Got it. 20 post or so ago me not doing anything about “it” made me insane. Now you not doing anything about it maintains your moral superiority.

Gotta love the left. What a fairy tail land you douche bags live in. Keep it coming. This is better then cable TV
I'm making a difference where it matters and where the problem can be solved.

You don't even know what the problems are, let alone how to address them.

Got any updates on the latest Q-drop?
 

JPickett

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I'm making a difference where it matters and where the problem can be solved.

You don't even know what the problems are, let alone how to address them.
Yeah, your making a difference buddy :rolleyes: keep telling your self that.

So you turning in your guns tomorrow then?
 

hossblur

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A single Mom on welfare has to pull herself up by her bootstraps, another makes a decision to have an abortion and not supposed to do the same? Gee, its almost like you're picking winners and losers...

Hypocrisy much?

Why is it the mom's job?

My state makes that "fetus" a minimum the financial responsibility of the sperm owner.

Why doesn't yours?
 

BuzzH

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Why is it the mom's job?

My state makes that "fetus" a minimum the financial responsibility of the sperm owner.

Why doesn't yours?
Right, and when the sperm donor doesn't pay they throw him in jail, if he isn't there already.

But that's a great thing if you're a for profit prison...

Who cares about the Mom and little unwanted Johnnie as long as someone makes a profit.

'Merica.
 
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BuzzH

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Yeah, your making a difference buddy :rolleyes: keep telling your self that.

So you turning in your guns tomorrow then?
You're and I'm not your buddy...and its yourself, one word. I do give you credit for ending your question with the appropriate punctuation, however.

We wonder why the average American is unable to think critically, when they can't even communicate in their own language?

Its a real mystery.
 

wilhille

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Him having 2 parents and living with his grandma is pretty telling.

I'm sure S&W caused that situation though. Better ban them🙄

Think we will address the absentee father part of all this violence in kids shooting others?

Is "baby mammas" a culprit?

Should we look at the number of kids born into single parent households?

"Hadn't seen his son in months". That was his dad's answer

Gee, why would a young boy have rage issues?
Sounds like a good enough excuse to keep abortion legal if you ask me.
 

2lumpy

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You're and I'm not your buddy...and its yourself, one word. I do give you credit for ending your question with the appropriate punctuation, however.

We wonder why the average American is unable to think critically, when they can't even communicate in their own language?

Its a real mystery.
Just to be contrary cuz it “don’t”
amount to a hill off beens.

It ain’t our own language, let’s remember that…….. it’s pigeon English and we speak it right proper.

homer? Not some much. He’s more refined than us pigeons!
 

hossblur

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Right, and when the sperm donor doesn't pay they throw him in jail, if he isn't there already.

But that's a great thing if you're a for profit prison...

Who cares about the Mom and little unwanted Johnnie as long someone makes a profit.

'Merica.

Caring about Johnie means sucking his brain out?

We spent 7 years, multiple surgeries, and $50,000 cash upfront, no insurance and no guarantee to hear a heartbeat.

If your so dense, you don' t understand what that heartbeat means, I have videos of an egg being fertilized by a sperm. When you go the route we did you no longer get to pretend, you watch egg, and sperm, become a heartbeat, then a 16 yr old.

I applaud what you do for your nephews/nieces. It's a wonderful thing. Every kid should be so blessed.

The Uvalde kids dad abandoned him. Chose a girlfriend over him. At an age where a boy is full of cum and dumb, he was abandoned. Combine that with mental illness and the result is what it is

Daniel Defense and S&W did nothing wrong. Banning them won't accomplish a damn thing.
 

BuzzH

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Caring about Johnie means sucking his brain out?

We spent 7 years, multiple surgeries, and $50,000 cash upfront, no insurance and no guarantee to hear a heartbeat.

If your so dense, you don' t understand what that heartbeat means, I have videos of an egg being fertilized by a sperm. When you go the route we did you no longer get to pretend, you watch egg, and sperm, become a heartbeat, then a 16 yr old.

I applaud what you do for your nephews/nieces. It's a wonderful thing. Every kid should be so blessed.

The Uvalde kids dad abandoned him. Chose a girlfriend over him. At an age where a boy is full of cum and dumb, he was abandoned. Combine that with mental illness and the result is what it is

Daniel Defense and S&W did nothing wrong. Banning them won't accomplish a damn thing.

I have an idea, if you don't want to have an abortion, good, don't have one and mind your own business.

It's what you pretend to want, freedom and nobody else telling you what to do. Nobody telling you how many kids to have, what car to drive, what kind of weapons you can own, what church to go to, but then you want to tell others what they should and shouldn't be allowed to do.

Freedoms are a one-way street with you.

What a raging hypocrite.
 

hossblur

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I have an idea, if you don't want to have an abortion, good, don't have one and mind your own business.

It's what you pretend to want, freedom and nobody else telling you what to do. Nobody telling you how many kids to have, what car to drive, what kind of weapons you can own, what church to go to, but then you want to tell others what they should and shouldn't be allowed to do.

Freedoms are a one-way street with you.

What a raging hypocrite.

So the freedom to end a 30week old is freedom, but shooting a kid in school is murder?

And I'm a hypocrite?

If your fine with killing kids then be fine with it.

AR, forceps, or scalpel. Results the same. Dead kid.

Talk about hypocrisy
 

BuzzH

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So the freedom to end a 30week old is freedom, but shooting a kid in school is murder?

And I'm a hypocrite?

If your fine with killing kids then be fine with it.

AR, forceps, or scalpel. Results the same. Dead kid.

Talk about hypocrisy
Abortions are not murder, but nice try.

Hypocrite.
 

hossblur

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Abortions are not murder, but nice try.

Hypocrite.

Give it whatever title you want to ease the guilt.

If it's not alive, it's not necessary to suck it's brain out, or collapse it's skull

Buzz. I'm trying real hard to not go personal.

So I'll say this.

You have zero PRACTICAL knowledge in this subject. Check your ego. There's a reason your helping nephews/niece's. That reason means you aren't anything but a theorist, not a subject master.
 

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