Bett midler tweeted for people to protest the convention and come armed. Dang right wing extremists calling for violence…You can bet your sweet a$$es there won't be a shot fired at the NRA convention next week!!
It wasn't me. My good friend spent 18 months "humping the boonies" on recon patrols in Vietnam. Another was a Marine sniper. I'll pass on your sentiments. Thanks.?. I didn’t know you served time in a fox hole. Thanks for your service.
A national rifle association and no shots fired? Sounds boring as ****.You can bet your sweet a$$es there won't be a shot fired at the NRA convention next week!!
Bett midler tweeted for people to protest the convention and come armed. Dang right wing extremists calling for violence…
I'll bet the entire agenda of the NRA convention has suddenly changed......unfortunately.
I don't know what has changed in the world we live in now, but something sure as hell has!!
You already did by saying the cops blew it ?No it won't change, they're still fleecing the chumps and protecting the manufacturers profits. if Wayne isn't getting a new gold toilet someone will be.
But it's nice to see at least some people's concern for the dead lasted 24hrs before the concern for the NRA took priority. that's a record.
Looks like the cops really screwed the pooch on this one. I'm not going to pass judgment until all the facts are known but it sounds bad. the worst part is there are a lot of good cops out there who're going to get more blame than the shooter or the rambo guns out of this. the gun lobby has their scapegoat now.
And for the 6th time.....wtf are YOU willing give up?No it won't change, they're still fleecing the chumps and protecting the manufacturers profits. if Wayne isn't getting a new gold toilet someone will be. But it's nice to see at least some people's concern for the dead lasted 24hrs before the concern for the NRA took priority. that's a record.
Looks like the cops really screwed the pooch on this one. I'm not going to pass judgment until all the facts are known but it sounds bad. the worst part is there are a lot of good cops out there who're going to get more blame than the shooter or the rambo guns out of this. the gun lobby has their scapegoat now.
Religion, yes that's the key to peace and love. WTF ever.
He’s proven 6 times….NOTHINGAnd for the 6th time.....wtf are YOU willing give up?
Religion, yes that's the key to peace and love. WTF ever.
His grandmother wasn't a person ?
The point you're trying to cover up is this kid had no record, no known mental issues and he followed the law right up until he started shooting. so other than not equip him what's the answer ?
You're the one crying for change, wtf are you willing to give up for "change"??Putin and Hitler, Christians. so what more needs said ? are you talking some religion other than christanity? Muslims ? strike two. Jews ? strike 3 . so what religion is it that will save us ? this should be good.
I don't have to give up anything because I don't need man cards . the Heller decision protects every one of the 70+ guns I own and life is good. you're the ones with a problem. you really should read it so I don't have to keep dumbing everything down for you.
Back to the well regulated militia, nobody want to touch that do they ? good for you. but the fact is this kid did everything according to your chosen regulations right up until he pointed the gun at a person and pulled the trigger. he's not the first or the last. so you really need to regulate your militia a hell of a lot better wouldn't you say ? the majority of Americans have some regulations they approve of but you get butt hurt at any suggestion of regulations. do you see irony here ? probably not so if you loan me your crayons I can draw you some pictures.
I'm not going to get drawn into a religiosity discussion here, but I do want to say this...Putin and Hitler, Christians. so what more needs said ? are you talking some religion other than christanity? Muslims ? strike two. Jews ? strike 3 . so what religion is it that will save us ? this should be good.
I don't have to give up anything because I don't need man cards . the Heller decision protects every one of the 70+ guns I own and life is good. you're the ones with a problem. you really should read it so I don't have to keep dumbing everything down for you.
Back to the well regulated militia, nobody want to touch that do they ? good for you. but the fact is this kid did everything according to your chosen regulations right up until he pointed the gun at a person and pulled the trigger. he's not the first or the last. so you really need to regulate your militia a hell of a lot better wouldn't you say ? the majority of Americans have some regulations they approve of but you get butt hurt at any suggestion of regulations. do you see irony here ? probably not so if you loan me your crayons I can draw you some pictures.
Putin and Hitler, Christians. so what more needs said ? are you talking some religion other than christanity? Muslims ? strike two. Jews ? strike 3 . so what religion is it that will save us ? this should be good.
Putin and Hitler, Christians. so what more needs said ? are you talking some religion other than christanity? Muslims ? strike two. Jews ? strike 3 . so what religion is it that will save us ? this should be good.
We're so unwilling to change that we cant put a limit on the magazine capacity of an AR, but have no problem passing regulations so we can't possess a shotgun for duck hunting that holds more than 3 shells.You're the one crying for change, wtf are you willing to give up for "change"??
All things that your guy hasn’t stopped in 40 years.Bullchit, just a fact and your faux caring isn't fooling anyone.
My comment is reality...try living in it for a while. Columbine, Sandy Hook...tell me what your thoughts, prayers, and faux caring did to change anything? What actions did you take then to prevent the next one? Nothing. The same inaction that you will take with this one...and the next, and the one after.
In a week or so you'll move right on to the next thing you find more important to faux care about right along with the rest of America. Stock market, fuel prices, inflation, crime rate in Chicago, yada yada.
I'm not sorry the facts offend you.
Wait I’m confused? Is the rifle evil? Or the magazine evil? Or are the bullets evil? Or are the first 5 bullets not evil and then after that there evil?We're so unwilling to change that we cant put a limit on the magazine capacity of an AR, but have no problem passing regulations so we can't possess a shotgun for duck hunting that holds more than 3 shells.
Seems reasonable...unless you actually think about it.
It’s not the damn nail!Putin and Hitler, Christians. so what more needs said ? are you talking some religion other than christanity? Muslims ? strike two. Jews ? strike 3 . so what religion is it that will save us ? this should be good.
I don't have to give up anything because I don't need man cards . the Heller decision protects every one of the 70+ guns I own and life is good. you're the ones with a problem. you really should read it so I don't have to keep dumbing everything down for you.
Back to the well regulated militia, nobody want to touch that do they ? good for you. but the fact is this kid did everything according to your chosen regulations right up until he pointed the gun at a person and pulled the trigger. he's not the first or the last. so you really need to regulate your militia a hell of a lot better wouldn't you say ? the majority of Americans have some regulations they approve of but you get butt hurt at any suggestion of regulations. do you see irony here ? probably not so if you loan me your crayons I can draw you some pictures.
We are a country always at war. It’s celebrated in the u.s.Can anybody help me understand why these shootings only happen in any regularity in America?
Other countries have lower two-parent households but don't have these shootings. Other countries have less religious participation but don't have these shootings. Other countries play violent video games but don't have these shootings. Other countries have mental illness but don't have these shootings. I can't figure it out.
These shootings happen in California, Texas, and New York so it's not as simple as gun control.
Iceland has 90,000 guns and they didn't have a murder with a firearm between 2007 and 2018... ELEVEN YEARS WITHOUT A SINGLE GUN MURDER. They didn't have a police shooting between 1944 and 2013. That's 69 consecutive years!
However, if you look into Iceland's gun control, it's very strict. Is their low gun violence rate due to successful gun control laws, or something else?
PS. Twenty years ago, Iceland had 90% of it's population self-identify as religious; today it's less than 50%. In the last poll on religion, not a single young person responded that Earth was created by God. Not one. So religion is not it either.
EDIT - I just checked, we have the highest rate of incarceration in the world, right above Rwanda, so that's not it.
I really don't know what's wrong with us.
Mass Public Shooting averted: Woman fatally shoots a man armed with an AR-15 type gun who began shooting at a crowd of people in Charleston, West Virginia
Cases like this just don’t get national news. Here a man with “an extensive criminal history” started firing an “AR-15 style firearm” into a crowd. Fortunately, a woma…crimeresearch.org
But it’s still the guns fault FFS! ?12 MINUTES!
The turd was outside shooting at police and other people for 12 f-ing minutes after wrecking the truck and before entering the school.
WTF????
I feel your pain. You are free to believe any of the reports that are coming out hourly. Cnn, fox, msnbc, abc, cbs, nbc, whatever you watch we know the reporting is all the same right? You’re anti cop unless you need to report somebody for picking up a dead head, your emotions are hoping so hard that the cops really messed this up, it fits your agenda. You’ve got lots of questions but you won’t tell me what you would do. I posed a few tough questions for you. Crickets. A final report will come out soon, we shall see.Reports are saying the officers broke protocol by not entering. Keep your emotions out of it. The cops screwed up, society screwed up.
You can paint the officers as heroes all you want I don’t care. But the mistakes made that day by law enforcement will be used in future training.
Are you getting all your facts like you claim others are getting all their facts on Wade Lemmon? Funny how the tide has turned with you…..12 MINUTES!
The turd was outside shooting at police and other people for 12 f-ing minutes after wrecking the truck and before entering the school.
WTF????
Then why did only Law Enforcement get shot? Was the evil coward shooting at the donut shop and the cops just happened to get hit? For a guy who fights so hard to save some outfitters reputation based off of what you call hearsay and rumors you sure don’t mind throwing Cops under the bus before their ink can even dry on their reports. SMH….I am going to add something here that no one is discussing. It isn't an answer and may only make more questions.
I was in Uvalde on Sunday.
On Sunday that town was absolutely crawling with cops. DPS, Border Patrol, and Uvalde PD are everywhere.
The governor is sending DPS officers in rotation to the border by the hundreds. You will think I am exaggerating but I promise I am not. Driving between Uvalde and Del Rio approximately every fifth vehicle is law enforcement. They are pulling people over left and right.
In Uvalde there is an entire hotel that is rented out to DPS. The entire parking lot is full of DPS vehicles. You can be anywhere in Uvalde in under 5 minutes. Probably 2 minutes if you aren't stopping at lights.
Maybe on Tuesday all the officers went out into the countryside looking for drug dealers. I don't know.
I have to believe within 15 minutes at least 50 heavily armed law men could have been on scene. From what I am hearing and seeing that was probably the case. There are videos of dozens of officers on scene when there is shooting inside.
I do understand facing a whacko with a deadly weapon is terrifying. It is staring death in the face. But if you aren't willing to do it hand your weapon to the man who is and get the hell out of the way. Keeping willing men out is doing nothing but allowing the shooter to organize and be more lethal.
Yes, the murderer could have killed those civilians if they had gone in. BUT THEY WERE THE ONLY MEN WILLING TO DIE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
19 fourth graders and their two teachers also got shot and killed. In case you forgotThen why did only Law Enforcement get shot?
Tog,Putin and Hitler, Christians. so what more needs said ? are you talking some religion other than christanity? Muslims ? strike two. Jews ? strike 3 . so what religion is it that will save us ? this should be good.
I don't have to give up anything because I don't need man cards . the Heller decision protects every one of the 70+ guns I own and life is good. you're the ones with a problem. you really should read it so I don't have to keep dumbing everything down for you.
Back to the well regulated militia, nobody want to touch that do they ? good for you. but the fact is this kid did everything according to your chosen regulations right up until he pointed the gun at a person and pulled the trigger. he's not the first or the last. so you really need to regulate your militia a hell of a lot better wouldn't you say ? the majority of Americans have some regulations they approve of but you get butt hurt at any suggestion of regulations. do you see irony here ? probably not so if you loan me your crayons I can draw you some pictures.
His faith and common sense?You're the one crying for change, wtf are you willing to give up for "change"??
Are you getting all your facts like you claim others are getting all their facts on Wade Lemmon? Funny how the tide has turned with you…..
Please elaborate on how you can learn how to use a gun properly yet a teacher can’t?please elaborate how being against arming teachers means someone hates guns?
I think all that time you spend cutting off sleeves and getting estrogen shots is affecting your thought process.
“BUT THEY WERE THE ONLY MEN WILLING TO DIE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE”I think that came
This was reported by DPS here. Now I wouldn't be surprised if something changes. They originally reported a school resource officer confronted the gunman outside of the school but did not fire any shots. Last night they reported that was not the case and no school resource officer was at the school at all. Right now the timeline is based upon specific established times of radio chatter, 911 calls, and both cctv and phone video. Its going to be pretty hard to screw up the timeline.
No tide has changed. I am trying to get facts reported from the Department of Public Safety. They are the authorities here right now.
I have not reported any gossip distributed by my cousins on our text thread.
You should have been a detective!19 fourth graders and their two teachers also got shot and killed. In case you forgot
Then why did only Law Enforcement get shot? Was the evil coward shooting at the donut shop and the cops just happened to get hit? For a guy who fights so hard to save some outfitters reputation based off of what you call hearsay and rumors you sure don’t mind throwing Cops under the bus before their ink can even dry on their reports. SMH….
I never said they couldn’t learn to use a gun properly. If you can’t even read properly how are we suppose to believe you are going to make responsible decisions under stressful situations? And with a gun?Please elaborate on how you can learn how to use a gun properly yet a teacher can’t?
The more I read his comments the more I realize he has the same mental capacity as joke biden.You already did by saying the cops blew it ?
I was told that teachers are a bunch of woke pedophiliac "groomers" infiltrating America to indoctrinate our children into believing Critical Race Theory.Please elaborate on how you can learn how to use a gun properly yet a teacher can’t?
? don’t you have hunters to report for picking up skulls?I never said they couldn’t learn to use a gun properly. If you can’t even read properly how are we suppose to believe you are going to make responsible decisions under stressful situations? And with a gun?
And you were supposedly teaching at some point during your career?
Maybe some of those clown cops took your class...
“BUT THEY WERE THE ONLY MEN WILLING TO DIE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE”
So what DPS Trooper said this? What media outlet did you get this from? Are you spreading rumors based off of your opinion or did your primo tell you that?
Half the people on here must be teachers.I was told that teachers are a bunch of woke pedophiliac "groomers" infiltrating America to indoctrinate our children into believing Critical Race Theory.
They sound far too dangerous to have guns.
Should civilians have been allowed to enter an active shooter area?DPS didn't say that and that is my opinion.
I will be the first to admit that my opinion and a dollar will get you nothing more than a bag of chips.
DPS has confirmed people wanted to enter the school when there was still shooting inside but law enforcement would not allow them.
That’s what I thought. Back down. Go ahead and mock me for turning in someone for breaking the law. The closest you became to being a cop was at the local mall.? don’t you have hunters to report for picking up skulls?
Die to make a difference.Actually I didn't state they made a difference.
YesShould civilians have been allowed to enter an active shooter area?
? you’re like a little girl running on pure emotion. You mock the cops for getting shot in the line of duty trying to save 600 children and then you whine about getting mocked. Your comments have been anti cop since day one I signed up here, that’s ok, cops even protect guys like you. To think a grown ass man would call somebody out over a picture of a skull and threaten to report them to the Police, the same type of Police he mocks and obviously can’t stand is just so juvenile. My property is full of dead skulls, call 911. ?That’s what I thought. Back down. Go ahead and mock me for turning in someone for breaking the law. The closest you became to being a cop was at the local mall.
How many quarters did you have to put in the machine to finally get your badge? Or did you get it in a box of cracker jacks?
So dead mommy’s and daddy’s leaving parentless children is ok in your book? I believe that school housed 600 children. I respect your opinion.Yes
That's my opinion.
Hell no its not okay. But there is no win here. No matter what. Just different levels of loss. No magic bullet. No supermen. Just a big turd sandwich that everybody has to bite into.So dead mommy’s and daddy’s leaving parentless children is ok in your book? I believe that school housed 600 children. I respect your opinion.
I coordinated and taught Active Shooter classes when I was a Border Patrol Agent. A Border Patrol Agent killed that coward dead, dead, dead, he was DRT, Dead Right There..I never said they couldn’t learn to use a gun properly. If you can’t even read properly how are we suppose to believe you are going to make responsible decisions under stressful situations? And with a gun?
And you were supposedly teaching at some point during your career?
Maybe some of those clown cops took your class...
Any intelligent conversation on here deteriorates pretty quickly these days with you around.You should have been a detective!
There ya go…Hell no its not okay. But there is no win here. No matter what. Just different levels of loss. No magic bullet. No supermen. Just a big turd sandwich that everybody has to bite into.
Maybe you should move over to the kids section if the truth upsets you so much.Any intelligent conversation on here deteriorates pretty quickly these days with you around.
Please show me where I mocked them cops. I’m not denying it, likely I did but please show me.? you’re like a little girl running on pure emotion. You mock the cops for getting shot in the line of duty trying to save 600 children and then you whine about getting mocked. Your comments have been anti cop since day one I signed up here, that’s ok, cops even protect guys like you. To think a grown ass man would call somebody out over a picture of a skull and threaten to report them to the Police, the same type of Police he mocks and obviously can’t stand is just so juvenile. My property is full of dead skulls, call 911. ?
Yes yes yes we all know. You’ve told us all a million times. Yeah he killed the guy, at least 40 mins after law enforcement arrived and he was done shooting kids and waiting for the cops.I coordinated and taught Active Shooter classes when I was a Border Patrol Agent. A Border Patrol Agent killed that coward dead, dead, dead, he was DRT, Dead Right There..
It was 25 quarters. I have heads from, Mexico, NM, Texas and Arkansas. That should keep you busy. You sound like the kind of citizen that sets his cruise control on 65 and then dials 911 whenever somebody passes you doing 70.Please show me where I mocked them cops. I’m not denying it, likely I did but please show me.
New Mexico has different laws regarding deadheads. So I don’t care what you do. Interesting you supposedly being an ex cop upset over someone turning someone in for breaking the law. One could only imagine what type of cop you were. One thing is for sure, you have no respect for wildlife laws. You’ve proven that.
I’m guessing 20 quarters...
Ok. So with you being a cop we have established you have no respect for wildlife laws and now traffic laws. I could only imagine what you think of child porn laws.It was 25 quarters. I have heads from, Mexico, NM, Texas and Arkansas. That should keep you busy. You sound like the kind of citizen that sets his cruise control on 65 and then dials 911 whenever somebody passes you doing 70.
Good one. The truth is you can’t handle an intelligent conversation and immediately revert to name calling and insults. It’s ok you’re safe behind your keyboard.Maybe you should move over to the kids section if the truth upsets you so much.
I think that is part of why there are a lot of angry people here.There ya go…
Pretty weak come back. Oh and you should have waited 40mins to respond.It was 25 quarters. I have heads from, Mexico, NM, Texas and Arkansas. That should keep you busy. You sound like the kind of citizen that sets his cruise control on 65 and then dials 911 whenever somebody passes you doing 70.
I care that evil is dead. You want to place blame everywhere but on evil. Im just trying to shed a little light on Law Enforcement procedures for people like you who have no knowledge what it takes in a situation of this nature. It’s much easier to shoot a stationary animal across canyon than it is to shoot a man who is shooting back at you with the intent of killing you before he dies. Remember the next time you report a dead head you’re taking an officer out of the field to investigate your claim which could lead to an extended response time for a tragic incident that is occurring or about to occur.Yes yes yes we all know. You’ve told us all a million times. Yeah he killed the guy, at least 40 mins after law enforcement arrived and he was done shooting kids and waiting for the cops.
I see why you are vomiting all over this thread. You went to bed proud a border patrol agent killed the guy. Whatever trips your trigger.
You are absolutely correct. We are jumping to many conclusions due to 24/7 media coverage. Every media outlet is vying to be the first to air anything for viewership. A lot of things get lost in the weeds and some things just get made up for ratings.I think that is part of why there are a lot of angry people here.
If it is true that there was a lot of time where no officers were confronting the shooter IF. BIG IF, then some people who the public puts their trust in weren't willing to take that bite.
Don't be upset that people have expectations of their public servants.
You guys are nuts if you think it took 40 minutes from the time the first officers arrived to go inside that school. You will soon find out the truth.Pretty weak come back. Oh and you should have waited 40mins to respond.
It’s ok you use two accounts to attack me. Listen if you can’t take what you’re dishing out you should really move along. You have yet to refute anything I’ve posted, if I’m wrong I will admit it and apologize. Now switch over to that other account and attack me.You’re not fooling anybody.Good one. The truth is you can’t handle an intelligent conversation and immediately revert to name calling and insults. It’s ok you’re safe behind your keyboard.
Btw way to make this tragedy about you.
Bingo!Ok. So with you being a cop we have established you have no respect for wildlife laws and now traffic laws. I could only imagine what you think of child porn laws.
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Haha apparently you have been fooled cause I only only got one account. You just need attention. Have a nice day living on the tax payers dime. I’m gonna go make a living in the free market so we can support dead weight like you.It’s ok you use two accounts to attack me. Listen if you can’t take what you’re dishing out you should really move along. You have yet to refute anything I’ve posted, if I’m wrong I will admit it and apologize. Now switch over to that other account and attack me.You’re not fooling anybody.
You are right. I apologize for my part. My full respect to the kids and families involved in the shootingThis thread has gone totally stupid! Look at you guys arguing like a bunch of crybabies! It's really sad that this is happening all across the country every damn time a "good crisis" happens. You're all playing right into the hands of the elitist pricks that want this great country divided! Without a doubt this is a tragic act by evil, but don't let it distract you enough to take your eyes off the ball.
Now, what about Hunters laptop? And when are we going to see the list of high profile pukes that visited Pedophile island?
I feel better now
im still waiting to hear if its ok to keep my AR since its not black. kinda the only reason im still here anywayWhat are we arguing about? I have lost track.
BECAUSE THEY TOOK GOD OUT OF THE SCHOOLS ! They took the parents roles and responsibility away for time outs instead of getting punished. We get fed all this propaganda bullshit on tv and it makes it ok ! Every commercial is either gay couples- sex or drugs. just a little bit at a time and then its full time and we get used to it and start thinking its ok. News channels and papers only report what they get paid to report. sex adds on Craigslist- sex videos on tik-tok- all of them conditioning us and are kids to this crap to make it the new normal. no more prayers at schools- no bibles in the library- no praying in the locker room before the game or on the field- because it might offend someones feeling. Just some of the things and reasons we are the way we are now! I could carry my gun to school and a knife and on the way home from school hunt along the way- not anymore. The world has gone to **** and i hate it for my kids, and my grand kids.Togwotee
I git one derios question please answer if you can.
Shootings of this nature this often did not happen before Colombian, yes I have heard the reports of mass shootings back to the 1950, but not as frequent as they happen now.
My question is why is it happening now as often as it is happening, what has changed since the 1980's?
I'll bet the entire agenda of the NRA convention has suddenly changed......unfortunately.
I don't know what has changed in the world we live in now, but something sure as hell has!!
Blaming " evil " is a dumb thing to say. evil only exists in evil people's minds it's not a virus and there's no cure . some act on it some don't.
As far as turning schools into Alcatraz and putting 400 robo cops outside that's fine if that's the world you want. but what about the other 350 million people who aren't in school ? phuk them ? what would your school guard's and cops have done for the shoppers in Buffalo ? maybe we need to look at the real problem and stop making stupid excuses and coming up with dumb ideas.
-> ? ->BECAUSE THEY TOOK GOD OUT OF THE SCHOOLS ! They took the parents roles and responsibility away for time outs instead of getting punished. We get fed all this propaganda bullshit on tv and it makes it ok ! Every commercial is either gay couples- sex or drugs. just a little bit at a time and then its full time and we get used to it and start thinking its ok. News channels and papers only report what they get paid to report. sex adds on Craigslist- sex videos on tik-tok- all of them conditioning us and are kids to this crap to make it the new normal. no more prayers at schools- no bibles in the library- no praying in the locker room before the game or on the field- because it might offend someones feeling. Just some of the things and reasons we are the way we are now! I could carry my gun to school and a knife and on the way home from school hunt along the way- not anymore. The world has gone to **** and i hate it for my kids, and my grand kids.
Blaming " evil " is a dumb thing to say. evil only exists in evil people's minds it's not a virus and there's no cure . some act on it some don't.
Be honest, you were the hall monitor at school weren’t you.You do realize this part of your post contradicts itself, don't you?
Evil is a state of mind, evil is an action from that state of mind that some people act on and some don't, blaming evil is dumb because it's not a real thing to even act on...
Nice try, but a fail nevertheless.
You do realize this part of your post contradicts itself, don't you?
Evil is a state of mind, evil is an action from that state of mind that some people act on and some don't, blaming evil is dumb because it's not a real thing to even act on...
Nice try, but a fail nevertheless.