Utah April RAC

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I will present the following proposal to the Northern RAC on April 17. I would like others that agree with it to present it at the other RACs that same day. Here is the proposal:


Youth hunters and the preference point allocation of antlerless hunting permits

Introduction. The demand for hunting permits is increasing with human population surge and shrinking winter habitat for many species of big game in Utah. Hunting of antlerless big game is an important tool to manage wildlife population size and structure. Most other States utilize antlerless permits to expand hunting opportunities to youth hunters as a means of introducing them to hunting. In some instances, youth hunters are the only ones allowed to harvest antlerless big game. In Utah, distribution of these permits too hunters was accomplished by a simple random drawing. That system allowed some people to draw multiple permits over several years, while others would not draw any permit over the same time period. In an effort to make the system more ?fair? a preference point system was instituted in 2006. With preference points, all antlerless permits are distributed to those with maximum number of points. If one assumes the average overall odds of drawing an antlerless permit is 1:6, then, on average, everyone should be able to obtain a permit every six years. On the surface, preference points should work as a means of fair, equitable distribution of these permits. During the discussion regarding the implementation of preference points the majority supported the plan and it was approved.

Problem. For new hunters entering the system, specifically youth hunters, they will be at the bottom of the preference point pyramid and will have to wait an average of 6 years to draw an antlerless permit. In my opinion, these are the hunters that most need these hunting opportunities, and they as youth will be absolutely excluded until they are no longer youth. If a 12-year-old hunter has to wait 6 years to have maximum preference points, they will no longer be a youth when they get a tag.

Proposed solution. I propose two alternative solutions to this problem.1) Eliminate the preference point system, return to a random draw, and institute a 3-year waiting period for antlerless permits. 2) Create two draws for antlerless permits. Half (or more) of the antlerless permits will be issued to youth hunters in a random draw. The remaining permits will be distributed by the current preference point system. Youth can only draw one antlerless permit, after which they must apply in the preference point draw with adults. Preference points will be issued to unsuccessful youth applicants but they will not be utilized until the youth turns 18, at which time they must apply in the preference point pool with all other applicants.

Additional Proposal. Non-resident youth hunters that are accompanied by a licensed adult should be able to purchase permits at the resident rate. This type of reduced fees for youth is practiced by both Idaho and North Dakota ans well as CO, CT, KY, MI, MN, MO, MS, NE, NJ, NY, OH, TN, TX, WI..

Summary. Our youth need additional (or at least equal) opportunities to hunt big game animals. This will help recruit new hunters and ensure the future of hunting. 1) Allowing youth the opportunity to obtain antlerless big game permits, and 2) reducing the cost to non-resident youth hunters can accomplish this.
 
I am sick of the youth are left out, it is a good thing most of us are still hunting, because most of us were left out as well, still waiting for tags, probably wont draw any tag this year, only general deer.
I am just glad that my dad took me rabbit hunting, and when I was old enough deer hunting, shot a small 2 point my first year.
The system is never fair, deal with it, I don't buy the fact that if we don't get our youth involved then hunting will be a part of the past, because why would most of us still be hunting. A waiting period on antlerless is a dumb idea, we will loose more hunters that way because hunting as it is is becoming waiting periods, everyone should be able to put in every year. Next thing we know we will have waiting periods on general deer.
If groups would get together more and push the issue of increasing herds, then we would have more opportunity
 
LAST EDITED ON Apr-04-07 AT 11:00AM (MST)[p]cantkillathing,

By definition, the current preference system on antlerless tags create waiting periods up to 10-15 years, depending on the unit! Once a person draws a tag, they can't draw another one untill EVERYBODY with more preference points draws theirs.

General deer tags are this way - for high demand units like the southern region, there is a "waiting period" of several years because of the preference points. The only reason people can currently hunt deer every year in Utah is because they issue so many permits for the Northern Region that no one wants because there are too few deer.
 
LAST EDITED ON Apr-04-07 AT 11:00AM (MST)[p]BIG,

You are correct, I missed the 20% set aside. Anyone know if the preference poins apply to the youth set aside?
 
I don't know, but I believe they are bonus points not preference. Which doesn't mean they have to wait until it is there trun they could get lucky and draw ahead of someone else with more points.

Plus they get to be part of the other 80% like everybody else.
 
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