What can you tell me about living in Montana

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Hey everyone, my name is Riley and I'm from Oregon. In the near future I would possibly like to move to Montana. I have looked at the Missoula area and like what I see on the internet as far as country. I am looking for a larger community so that I can find a job (I work in healthcare). I know Billings is the biggest but don't want to live in sagebrush country. I like the mountains, trees, and streams. So I've heard that homes are expensive there but have looked and are no where near what they are here in Oregon. Californians keep coming up here with all their money and making things more expensive for us.

Anyway I love to bowhunt and I know Montana has many more opportunities than Oregon. In Montana how does the resident tag system work? Can you get your tags OTC every year for elk and deer? Can you get OTC antelope archery tags? Basically what opportunities do residents have. Thanks for any info.

Riley
 
First off, the healthcare industry is one of the biggest employers in Missoula. There are two hospitals and all the typical doctors offices, physical therapy, bone and joint, rehab centers. If you are well qualified you can probably get a job. The University of Montana is located here, so there is a fair amount of the liberal element represented in the local population. Still, that's not a reason to disregard living here. The university also results in more culture then lots of western towns (i.e., live theater, park concerts, symphony, etc.) if you are interested in such things.

Weather in the summer is great. Days are very long (light until about 10:00 in mid-June/early-July) and it rarely ever gets too hot. You do have to contend with the smoke in the summer. Missoula is surrounded by mountains and smoke from local fires, as well as fires in Washington, Idaho, and Oregon sometimes settles in here and stays for a while. It some times gets so bad the you can't see across the valley. I can be like living in a campfire.

Winter weather in Missoula is generally mild, but the sun does not come out very much. Some days are very foggy, while most are just overcast.

Fishing and river floating can't be beat. Several famous fly-fishing rivers come right through town such as Clark Fork, Bitterroot, Blackfoot. Rock Creek, a local favorite, is a short drive away. And speaking of Rock Creek, some of the biggest bighorn rams in the lower 48 can be hunted there (not sure how tough it is to draw a tag). Plenty of camping and hiking opportunities abound and if you are willing to drive an hour or so there are some great lakes for fishing, skiing, camping, etc.

As far as elk and mule deer tags, Montana offers residents an over the counter tag for each that is good for any weapon until you fill it (rifle season alone is five weeks long ? not sure how long the archery season is before that). The over the counter tag is good in a very large number of areas, but not everywhere. Tags for some area are by draw only. If you draw a mule deer tag, for example, in a draw only area then you can hunt mule deer only in that area. On the other hand if you get an over the counter tag then it is good anywhere in the state that does not require a draw tag (with some exceptions).

If the housing prices in Missoula have not scared you, then you might consider taking a look at Bozeman. It is more expensive, but the weather is clearer (and typically colder) in the winter. Bozeman has just as good access to hunting and fishing rivers.

Hope this helps.

Mark
 
Ditto to everything above. I live south of Missoula in the Bitterroot Valley. Prices are alittle lower. 30 minute commute to missoula. There is a smaller Hospital in Hamilton if you are thinking smaller community. Same fishing and hunting stated above just closer to it. Zone 270 south of Hamilton Is the best Muley zone in the state, 4 sheep zones in the south end of valley. Goat tags up 6 different drainages and moose again in the southern part of the Valley. I don't think you would be sorry moving here. Good luck
 
If you like dreadlocks and hairy women, Missoula is the town for you! Also a great place to have some fun and raise a family. You probably wouldn't like Bozeman, I grew up in Hillsboro, Or. and now reside here in Bozeman. It's a terrible place compared to Missoula because there isn't nearly as much pot as in Missoula and the women shave their legs and armpits. Disgusting.
 
Back in the 70's once saw a bumper sticker.....crime, queers and pollution---Missoula's got it all. Don't know if that is true are not, but thought it was humorous at the time. Actually I would substitite Frisco, would be very accurate.

from the "Heartland of Wyoming"
 
No crime to speak of. Pollution not any where near as bad as it was in the 70's with the tepee burners gone now. Can?t speak to the other.

Mark
 
Riley, you might want to look north of Weirdoola. There are still opportunities to work in the healthcare profession and less queers, freaks, and hippies...unless you are into that sort of thing. Look at Kalispell, Whitefish, Libby, or best yet travel further east and look at Lewistown which is in some of best Montana has to offer.
 
If Missoula could be Seattle, it would. I don't want to live in Seattle, or it's #1 wannabe.

Look to the SW; Bozeman is good.

Kalispell, Whitefish, Libby? The hunting, when compared to the rest of the state, SUCKS. Especially for elk. How do I know? I lived there for 20 years. Now I live in Bozeman and I killed a nice muley and a 5 pt bull and an antelope in two weeks time this fall. Not to mention, I'm yanking 16"-20" trout out of the local rivers in FEBRUARY. Nuf said.

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Well, Im coming up too in August to go to the university. Anything anyone can tell me about what I can expect? I used to live in Frenchtown when I was younger but its been a long time since ive been there. What can i expect as far as work and where and how should I start fishing? Im a big flyfisherman but I really dont care how I catch a fish just as long as I do.
 
Hey H30, I got a BS in Resource Conservation from the UofM, live in Hamilton now and own a construction company here, and I'm guiding elk pack in hunts this fall. The valley has become over-crowded. It is no longer a peaceful little rurul community. Missoula is a joke, I stay out of there as much as possible and go there only for material runs. A lot has changed here since I first came to Montana in 1992. I came out to enjoy the area and become one of the locals and adopt their culture. Unfortunately, due to the transiet nature of this area, there is very little "old school" left. In 20 more years this area will become a mini-Colorado, with hunters around every corner. The ex-Kalifornia population here is strong, and all the ills that come with it. An average summer day will find raft on top of raft on the local rivers, and development has greatly limited hunting opportunities in some formely great areas. Housing cost are sky-rocketing and Montana is 46 in the nation in per capita income. While areas such as 270 are great Muley areas, the chances of drawing a tag are remote. There are little if any decent 4 wheeler trails here, and the USFS is decommisioning roads every year. Wolf re-introduction is effecting elk populations and logging as nearly stopped due to the environmental whackos. The mystic of Montana is long gone, this is not the place I imagined I was heading to 15 years ago. If I sound bitter, your are correct. It's painful to see a state with such beauty and history become a play ground for the wealthy, and a battle ground for the left wing nut jobs. I afraid Montana has reached the point of no return.
 
Hey Nemont, how are things over on the eastside? I put in for area 650 for antelope this year, after two years in Roundup, I got a little tired of that area. I hunted 650 with great success before the winter a few years ago knocked things down. I have actually grown to appreciate the east side of the state. I like the remoteness, quiet areas. There is dang good hunting over there also. It is still truly a rural area. Nothing better than cruisin those eastern backroads as the sun sets wathcing the lopers and deer. Bird hunting is outstanding as well.
 
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We are extremely wet over here. Right around town here we are 6.5 inches of precip above normal. Had a doozy of a storm last night 6/16/07. Destroyed most of the crops in the area. We lost windows on the west side of my house, had 2 inch hail in the living room and flooding in our basement, destroyed our camper and broke a window out of the Garage. Highway 2 looked like a river.

Highway 2
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The street in front of my house

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The wall cloud building before the storm
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High water
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Severe Weather Hits Glasgow
Saturday, June 16th 2007

Water floods Highway 2 in Glasgow after Saturday night's severe thunderstorm.
A severe thunderstorm packing winds over 60 m.p.h. and marble to tennis ball size hail pummeled northeast Montana on Saturday evening.

The demo derby set for Saturday night as well as the local baseball tournament were both postponed.

Windows were broken out of many homes, and water flooded Highway 2, the underpass, and many streets in town.

Residents were advised to stay home so as not to hamper city crews trying to clean up.

A funnel cloud was also sighted near Tampico with the storm system. Reports from Nashua to Frazer had more broken windows and heavy hail occurrences.
 
Dang Jeff, I hope some of that made it into Fort Peck and raised it a bit...i hope you got your place cleaned up/fixed okay.

take care,
Aaron
 
Jeff, Sorry about your house and camper. At least nobody was hurt. Hope everything turns out alright. mtmuley
 
I'm glad I missed that storm. Glad you got through with only property damage. It sure has been a wet spring in easten Mt. We have had over 9 inches of rain in May and June.

Antlerradar
 
Hey, Im kind of sad to hear how it is going, ive actually heard that quite a bit since i decided to head up. I chose Missoula because I used to live in Frenchtown when I was a kid, probably 8 or so years ago, but from what I remember I loved it. . . But I guess I will see. How far are you from Missoula? And what kind of situation am I going to be looking at as far as work goes? I dont want a full time job but I need something that is going to make me some money to live off of. Hopefully I can get a job over at sportsmans so I can get a discount on all the shotgun shells im hoping to shoot up. Anyway, I appreciate the input and hopefully Ill find it better than you describe but i can only hope right now.
 
H30, to a lot of people coming from out of state, Montana is a lot better than where they came from, however, for those of us who have been here a while, it's a different story. If your staying in Montana over the summer, we usually bring on a few guys, so look me up when you get here for work. There are also big box stores up there so you can usually get a low paying job such as that.
 
Yeah, that is one thing to remember is that im coming from Vegas which is a place that I hate everything about, so there is no amount of hippies or left wingers that can make it worse than this place. I wont be up until about the middle of august so hopefully there will be some work left after all of the other kids come up, The only problem is that the jobs that I could fill that alot of people couldnt arent going to hire me on for 20 hours a week. Maybe Costco or someone will let me come in as like a forklift opp. or something? But Im still real excited to leave this place, any place you would point me to as far as fishing goes when I get up? And is the waterfowl hunting as good as everyone says?
 
LAST EDITED ON Jun-20-07 AT 06:39PM (MST)[p]Lots of places to fish, just give me a hollar when you get up here. Sportsman warehouse and home depot bring on a lot of college kids, but they all jump the gun by getting up here in early august. Slip out to the Elk Foundation, they are usually looking for a few part timers to work the desk. Personally, I don't waterfowl, but the hunting is pretty good.
On a side note, as I was going through the school of forestry, I had classes with a lot of enviro and anti hunting whack jobs. I always stood my ground. I gave speeches that just POed the greens, and argued with professors every week. When you go to school, it's a feeding ground for liberals, so stand your ground and do us all proud.
 
Alright ill check that out. Yeah, Ill take you up on that offer, I cant wait im going to be going from having to drive 4 hours for a decent place to wet a line (any decent fly fishing is farther than that) to a place that I couldnt fish all the water if I tried. I figured that I would probably take alot of heat, especially because Im majoring in biology and im probably going to be in classes with a bunch of huggers who are pretty dead set on that whole leave the animals alone and they will be fine theory. So, im prepared for a whole lot of arguments about it but any chance I have to talk about hunting im game, especially defending it against people who dont have a clue. And kind of an unrelated topic, whats a gallon of gas going for up there?
 

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