Buy a Bull Elk....Seriously!!!!!!!

eelgrass

eelgrass

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Check this out! This weekend (Jan. 26th) a ranch in Oregon is auctioning off a bunch of bull elk and elk antlers. A big cattle auction house out of Oklahoma (I believe) will conduct the auction.

Here is the link:

http://www.superiorlivestock.com/

Scroll down to "Ochoco Valley Ranch Bull Elk Auction" There is video footage of each bull elk (both Rocky Mountain and Roosevelt) plus video of each pair of antlers for auction, including the World Record Roosevelt. I copied the printed version of the antlers, to give you an idea. I checked out most of the video. Some racks to take your breath away for sure.

I thought you might be interested. Good luck bidding! LOL! I have no idea what they will sell for.

Ochoco Valley Ranch, LLC
Bull Elk Descriptions - Horns and Live Bull Elk Descriptions Below

Harvested Horn Descriptions (Lots 1A ? 20A)

Lot #1A? Bull 603/OVR24. A 5 year old bull scoring 407 SCI with a natural spread of 36 inches.

Lot #2A ? Bull 626. This 8 x 8 was harvested in 2006 as a 5 year old. He scored 432 SCI

Lot #3A ? Bull 508. This 6 x 6 was harvested in 2006 as a 6 year old. He scored a 419 SCI

Lot #4A ? Bull 517/OVR16. This Non-Typical scored 414 SCI.

Lot #5A ? Bull 569/OVR39. Cut as a 5 year old in 2006, he scored 411 SCI Typical points.

Lot #6A ? Bull OVR6. He is a Roosevelt bull. He was harvested in 2006 as a 6 year old, scoring 421 SCI points.

Lot #7A ? Bull 596. A 5 year old bull harvested in 2006, Scoring 419SCI as a
7 x 8

Lot #8A ? Bull 524/OVR14. He scored 380 as a 5 year old, cut in 2005. A gorgeous 6 x 6

Lot #9A ? Bull 586. He is a 5 year old harvested in 2006, scoring 415 SCI as a
8 x 9

Lot #10A ? Bull 683. Harvested in 2005, he scored 380 SCI as a 3 year old. Another gorgeous 6 x 6

Lot #11A ? Bull 505. Harvested in 2005 as a 5 year old, he scored 409 SCI points as a 7 x 7

Lot #12A ? Bull OVR7. He?s a Roosevelt bull and is a WORLD RECORD! He scored 440 points SCI in 2006 as a 6 year old. That's 13 points higher than the existing record on the SCI books. He?s a 7 x 7

Lot #13A ? Bull OVR7. He?s a Roosevelt bull scoring 392 SCI points as a
6 x 7. He was harvested as a 5 year old in 2005.

Lot #14A ? Bull 579. Harvested as a 5 year old in 2006, he scored 429 SCI points.

Lot #15A ? Bull 530. Harvested as a 5 year old in 2005, he scored 398 SCI points as a 6 x 6.

Lot #16A ? Bull 479. Harvested as a 4 year old in 2004, he scored 425 SCI points.

Lot #17A ? Bull 661. One of our Best! He was harvested as a 4 year old in 2006 measuring 461 SCI points as an 8 x 8.

Lot #18A ? Bull 492. The highest scoring set of horns we have ever harvested!! He totaled up 472 SCI inches as a 7 x 8 bull. Harvested as a 6 year old in 2006.

Lot #19A ? Bull 521. Harvested as a 6 year old in 2006. He scored 419 SCI points as a 7 x 8.

Lot #20A ? Bull 506. A 6 x 6 scoring 381 SCI points. Harvested as a 5 year old in 2005.
 
Bobcatbess! Here's your chance. Forget all that LE tag stuff! Buy some antlers and a big stinky to mount them to!

Eel
 
When are people gonna wake up and quit paying money to these farms? If we can eliminate the market, we could make some progress in outlawing them nationwide.

There should be no scoring body that recognizes them. I know we can't divide hunters on issues from within, but I stand by my thought that elk ranches have absolutely nothing to do with hunting. No more than shooting a 2200lb black angus bull in my pasture.

Disgusting.
 
While I agree with your opinion, the guys who buy these hunts contribute alot of money to our sport. Who really does more for hunters SCI or REMF? Same with DU vs. Delta waterfowl. By dividing the hunting public, it makes our right much more voulnerable to attack while we fight from within.
 
A lot of the time these guys that pay 15,000 to walk out and shoot a elk, buck etc... out of a fence are the same ones with really deep pockets and with their lips in a politicans hear. They are in the hunting community also. Just a difference of opinion on how to do it, no different than someone not liking the southerners for running whitetails with dogs?

WIth that said, I DON'T like that type of hunting either but I grew up in a different enviroment then people with 6,7,8 figures in the bank.

They buy guns, clothes, pay for guides outfitters, lodges on and on... They do support.

Mntman

"Hunting is where you prove yourself"
 
I agree that we shouldn't be dividing ourselves on issues as hunters. In fact, that's my point. These ranches have absolutely nothing to do with hunting. Killing someone's livestock is not hunting. They bring much more negative attention to hunting than positive.

We say we can't be split on issues because it helps the anti's. When un-informed non-hunters hear about a high fence operation, they wrongly associate it with legitimate hunting. Talk about ammunition for the anti's.

If some fat rich guy pays $15,000 to some ranch to kill a 400" bull elk with a tag in his ear, how much of that money benefits us as sportsmen (& women)? None of it! No license money, no tag fees, no application fees, no money into wildlife projects, no money to sportsman organizations that benefit wildlife.

Sorry, I'm not trying to turn MM into a political forum, it's just that this issue is one I feel very strongly about.

Anyone else agree, or am I in the minority here?
 
When one of those "Fat Cats" kill one of those "trophy" bulls, do you think they remove the eartags before taking their pictures?
 
I'd like to have the sheds and thats about it. I dont think I could shoot an elk that was sharing my apple jacks the morning before, but thats just me.


Timberline
 
You are absolutely right. This is not hunting. It should not be associated with hunting, and does immeasureable harm to true hunters.
I understand that by definition only wealthy individuals take part in these "slaughters". If SCI would ever take a stand against this behavior I might consider rejoining. If the people who shoot these pen raised bulls were shunned by the hunting fraternity they wouldn't turn a deaf ear on true hunters, they would mend their ways and learn about true hunting. Yes, they would probably just hire outfitters and guides and hunt in premier areas only, but at least it would be a hunt.
I am with you, fullcurl74
 
Hey,

I posted this same post, damn near verbatum, this last weekend and it got nuked right away.

Anyway, I am in that part of the world, and wish they were doing it live so I could be there to see the fools that buy these. I am going to try and watch some of it to see what they go for. There are some big bulls in the sale, but they are just that, big, fenced in bulls.

"success Is Reason Enough!"
 
Jeez, too bad Timberhunter's mom won't let him on the internet any more. Just think of the fun he could have with those videos and pictures. A little cropping and he could say he took the pics himself. In fact I'm pretty sure he's hiding in that bush the video of bull 517. Or is that cASS? :)
 
I watched a bit of it. Saw one live bull sell for $7500. Most were down around $5000. Got tired of it pretty quick.
 
My dad calls me when this was on (He lives in MT) & asks if I have that farm auction station. Nope. He sez they had like 8x10 & 6x12 or something. I knew right away they were farm elk but were also selling racks & going for $5k. I say holy crap. what? I', watching VS & Smokey Joe & Larry Czonka are fishing in AK & the salmon jumps right in the boat. Then Zonk bonks it like 25 times. huh? he's a big boy, 1 or 2 thumps is all it takes.
 
SCI doesn't care, an elk is an elk. I looked at a 400 class set of sheds yesterday bought there and they look to be 400 gross which is SCI, I think the scores are honest.

I know Mark , the owner of the herd just auctioned but hadn't heard of his situation until the auction came up . a few locals bought bulls at the sale but now aren't sure what they're going to do with them, in Oregon you're not allowed to own an elk without a permit and you're not allowed to " hunt " captive elk either. so what do you do? it sounds like they're going to have to have them legally butchered or haul them to Idaho for the " hunt". I hate to see a freind in trouble but I'll admit I wish there were no captive elk in Oregon or any other state.
 
They (ODFW) gave out the last permits a cpl years ago.

Everybody around here(I thought) knew you couldn't start an Elk ranch anymore.
 
I had heard that if you bought one or more you could keep them there until this fall and then come and "dispose" of them as you wish. They have a 4000 acre place to let them go if you would like to "hunt" for them. But you could take them away if you had a legal place to do so. They had been certified disease free by Oregon.
Eel
 
The way they understand it now you can't shoot them beccause they aren't yours, that would be considered a hunt and it's illegal to hunt them in Oregon. and you can't own them without a permit, so if you can't own them you can't move them unless they're going to a permited elk ranch or out of state.

When it's all said and done I think it's just better to go hunt elk like a real hunter, wild and fair chase.
 

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