Elk that score well
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muzzhunter
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Well I'm not a guide or a elk expert, but it always seem like tine length has alot to do with a good scoring bull. I'm sure the rest of these guys will have a lot better info than that for you though. Did you draw a good tag?
Good luck,
Dave
Good luck,
Dave
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bobcatbess
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HEY Beefy!!!
THIS WILL BE EASY FOR YOU TO LEARN!!!
JUST THINK DD'S!!!
MASS MY FRIEND!!!
POINTS ARE ALWAYS NICE!!!
WHAT DO DD'S DO TO YOU???
THEY GIVE A LONG LENGTHY MAIN BEAM!!!
A BIG INSIDE SPREAD IS ALWAYS NICE!!!
LONG POINTERS ARE WHAT YOU'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR!!!
MASS THAT GOES ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE TIPS IS NICE!!!
NOTHING LIKE BEING TRASHY,THE TRASHIER,THE BETTER!!!
COME ON Beefy!!!
YOU CAN DO IT!!!
THIS IS MY NEW GUN,YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT,YOU'LL LIKE IT A HELL OF A LOT LESS WHEN IT HITS ITS DESTINATION!!!
THE ONLY bobcat THAT KNOWS ALOT OF YOU HAVE HAD THIS IMAGE IN YOUR PEA BRAIN BUT DUE TO POOR SHOOTING TACTICS I'M STILL KICKIN!!!
THIS WILL BE EASY FOR YOU TO LEARN!!!
JUST THINK DD'S!!!
MASS MY FRIEND!!!
POINTS ARE ALWAYS NICE!!!
WHAT DO DD'S DO TO YOU???
THEY GIVE A LONG LENGTHY MAIN BEAM!!!
A BIG INSIDE SPREAD IS ALWAYS NICE!!!
LONG POINTERS ARE WHAT YOU'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR!!!
MASS THAT GOES ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE TIPS IS NICE!!!
NOTHING LIKE BEING TRASHY,THE TRASHIER,THE BETTER!!!
COME ON Beefy!!!
YOU CAN DO IT!!!
THIS IS MY NEW GUN,YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT,YOU'LL LIKE IT A HELL OF A LOT LESS WHEN IT HITS ITS DESTINATION!!!
THE ONLY bobcat THAT KNOWS ALOT OF YOU HAVE HAD THIS IMAGE IN YOUR PEA BRAIN BUT DUE TO POOR SHOOTING TACTICS I'M STILL KICKIN!!!
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ktc
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Just look at a lot of mature bulls. When you think Holy Sh!t, shoot him. It will score well, unless you are pro.;-)
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bobcatbess
Guest
YOU SEE ANY 380" BULLS DON'T EVEN RAISE YOUR BINO'S Beefy!!!
THEY ARE CONSIDERED JUNK BULLS WITH TODAYS STANDARDS!!!
I'M THE ONLY ONE AROUND THAT WOULD SHOOT A BULL THAT SMALL!!!
BEST OF LUCK!!!
THIS IS MY NEW GUN,YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT,YOU'LL LIKE IT A HELL OF A LOT LESS WHEN IT HITS ITS DESTINATION!!!
THE ONLY bobcat THAT KNOWS ALOT OF YOU HAVE HAD THIS IMAGE IN YOUR PEA BRAIN BUT DUE TO POOR SHOOTING TACTICS I'M STILL KICKIN!!!
THEY ARE CONSIDERED JUNK BULLS WITH TODAYS STANDARDS!!!
I'M THE ONLY ONE AROUND THAT WOULD SHOOT A BULL THAT SMALL!!!
BEST OF LUCK!!!
THIS IS MY NEW GUN,YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT,YOU'LL LIKE IT A HELL OF A LOT LESS WHEN IT HITS ITS DESTINATION!!!
THE ONLY bobcat THAT KNOWS ALOT OF YOU HAVE HAD THIS IMAGE IN YOUR PEA BRAIN BUT DUE TO POOR SHOOTING TACTICS I'M STILL KICKIN!!!
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bobcatbess
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A BULL LIKE THIS SCORES WELL Beefy!!!
THIS IS MY NEW GUN,YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT,YOU'LL LIKE IT A HELL OF A LOT LESS WHEN IT HITS ITS DESTINATION!!!
THE ONLY bobcat THAT KNOWS ALOT OF YOU HAVE HAD THIS IMAGE IN YOUR PEA BRAIN BUT DUE TO POOR SHOOTING TACTICS I'M STILL KICKIN!!!
THIS IS MY NEW GUN,YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT,YOU'LL LIKE IT A HELL OF A LOT LESS WHEN IT HITS ITS DESTINATION!!!
THE ONLY bobcat THAT KNOWS ALOT OF YOU HAVE HAD THIS IMAGE IN YOUR PEA BRAIN BUT DUE TO POOR SHOOTING TACTICS I'M STILL KICKIN!!!
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bobcatbess
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WATCH OUT FOR THIS LE ELK SPECIMEN!!!
THIS IS MY NEW GUN,YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT,YOU'LL LIKE IT A HELL OF A LOT LESS WHEN IT HITS ITS DESTINATION!!!
THE ONLY bobcat THAT KNOWS ALOT OF YOU HAVE HAD THIS IMAGE IN YOUR PEA BRAIN BUT DUE TO POOR SHOOTING TACTICS I'M STILL KICKIN!!!
THIS IS MY NEW GUN,YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT,YOU'LL LIKE IT A HELL OF A LOT LESS WHEN IT HITS ITS DESTINATION!!!
THE ONLY bobcat THAT KNOWS ALOT OF YOU HAVE HAD THIS IMAGE IN YOUR PEA BRAIN BUT DUE TO POOR SHOOTING TACTICS I'M STILL KICKIN!!!
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proutdoors
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"If your going for score.. you want every tine to be 20 inches dude... 30 inches of mass per side plus a 50 inch beam is a 400 inch bull."
It would need a 40" inside spread to make 400", just to be accurate using your numbers. ;-)
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It would need a 40" inside spread to make 400", just to be accurate using your numbers. ;-)
PRO
Define, develop, and sustain BOTH trophy and opportunity hunts throughout the state of Utah.
antlerrick
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B_F_E,
As if you can't get a glance at a bull and give us a score within a couple inches!!! Having grown up with monster bulls in your backyard, come on!! LOL...
We may be looking at a pending world record from you as you probably have one already tied up and feeding him steroids, but then I won't tell anyone....
As if you can't get a glance at a bull and give us a score within a couple inches!!! Having grown up with monster bulls in your backyard, come on!! LOL...
We may be looking at a pending world record from you as you probably have one already tied up and feeding him steroids, but then I won't tell anyone....
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bobcatbess
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HOW BOUT IT Beefy???
YOU PUMPIN EM???
THIS IS MY NEW GUN,YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT,YOU'LL LIKE IT A HELL OF A LOT LESS WHEN IT HITS ITS DESTINATION!!!
THE ONLY bobcat THAT KNOWS ALOT OF YOU HAVE HAD THIS IMAGE IN YOUR PEA BRAIN BUT DUE TO POOR SHOOTING TACTICS I'M STILL KICKIN!!!
YOU PUMPIN EM???
THIS IS MY NEW GUN,YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT,YOU'LL LIKE IT A HELL OF A LOT LESS WHEN IT HITS ITS DESTINATION!!!
THE ONLY bobcat THAT KNOWS ALOT OF YOU HAVE HAD THIS IMAGE IN YOUR PEA BRAIN BUT DUE TO POOR SHOOTING TACTICS I'M STILL KICKIN!!!
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WARBIRDUM
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Just dont gamble when judging bulls make sure you can see both sides of the rack from top to bottom,look for mass and those real long lengths on each and every tine.Last year I did a little gambling and lost. This is the best advice I can give when the chips are down no matter what, make sure you can see everything on that bull of a lifetime if its huge and you know it take him.If you have to try and talk yourself into something like I hope the location on the rack is good that I cant see real well DO NOT SHOOT.Thats gambling and odds are you will lose.
browtine
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>"If your going for score.. you
>want every tine to be
>20 inches dude... 30 inches
>of mass per side plus
>a 50 inch beam is
>a 400 inch bull."
>
>It would need a 40" inside
>spread to make 400", just
>to be accurate using your
>numbers. ;-)
>
>PRO
Yea, make that 52 inch beams.. and a 36" inside
I doubt most bulls have a true 40" inside spread.
Later, Brandon
>want every tine to be
>20 inches dude... 30 inches
>of mass per side plus
>a 50 inch beam is
>a 400 inch bull."
>
>It would need a 40" inside
>spread to make 400", just
>to be accurate using your
>numbers. ;-)
>
>PRO
Yea, make that 52 inch beams.. and a 36" inside
I doubt most bulls have a true 40" inside spread.
Later, Brandon
slamdunk
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I like ktc's theory of the "holy sh*t" look, those are no brainers and hopefully a "slamdunk" (small pun intended).
I look at bulls from a long distance at first, sometime miles and miles through big spotting scopes.
Naturally I look for the big back ends 1st, 3rd's second, then beam length.
Like pro said too, those first 4 points have got to be in 18" range at LEAST, but 20's are the ticket, along with a beam of over 50" and it is pretty much a gurantee that you right there looking at a "BIG" bull, 380" or better.
Mass seems to be pretty "standard" in the 30-35" per side range, the further apart the tines are on the beam, usually means less mass. Compact bulls usually have better H measurements between those points.
Inside width can very a LOT between bulls, but obviously the wider the better.
Just wait for about 5 more months and Pro will post a picture on what a "perfect bull" is supposed to look like
Skull Krazy
"No Bones About It"
I look at bulls from a long distance at first, sometime miles and miles through big spotting scopes.
Naturally I look for the big back ends 1st, 3rd's second, then beam length.
Like pro said too, those first 4 points have got to be in 18" range at LEAST, but 20's are the ticket, along with a beam of over 50" and it is pretty much a gurantee that you right there looking at a "BIG" bull, 380" or better.
Mass seems to be pretty "standard" in the 30-35" per side range, the further apart the tines are on the beam, usually means less mass. Compact bulls usually have better H measurements between those points.
Inside width can very a LOT between bulls, but obviously the wider the better.
Just wait for about 5 more months and Pro will post a picture on what a "perfect bull" is supposed to look like
Skull Krazy
"No Bones About It"
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proutdoors
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The only pressure I ma feeling right now is from my turkey hunt which starts in 14+ hours! Just fine tuned the bow, now it's all on me.
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BuzzH
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I'm far from an expert on elk, but I can tell you sometimes its not easy to judge them.
My Wyoming archery bull from last year, for me, was a tough bull to judge. Not tough to tell he was well worth taking, but I was about 20 inches off on the score.
He doesnt have a lot of what some here have said a bull must have to score well. None of his first three points are over 18. The inside spread is very average.
But, he does have some very long main beams, good but not great 4ths, but his 5ths are about as good as they get. Mass was pretty good too.
I saw this bull twice a couple days before I shot him, and had a long time to judge him. I was not even close on the score...largely because I didnt give the top as much credit as I should have. The 5ths make up a lot of ground on not having the best bottom 3 points.
My point is just be aware that a bull with a good, solid frame, that has something extra on a tine or two may be worth a closer look.
I thought my bull would gross score 350...if anything maybe a pinch less. The guy I was hunting with thought the same thing. I was a bit shocked when I got around to taping him a couple days after killing him. Officially gross scored 372 0/8 and net scored 358 5/8.
My Wyoming archery bull from last year, for me, was a tough bull to judge. Not tough to tell he was well worth taking, but I was about 20 inches off on the score.
He doesnt have a lot of what some here have said a bull must have to score well. None of his first three points are over 18. The inside spread is very average.
But, he does have some very long main beams, good but not great 4ths, but his 5ths are about as good as they get. Mass was pretty good too.
I saw this bull twice a couple days before I shot him, and had a long time to judge him. I was not even close on the score...largely because I didnt give the top as much credit as I should have. The 5ths make up a lot of ground on not having the best bottom 3 points.
My point is just be aware that a bull with a good, solid frame, that has something extra on a tine or two may be worth a closer look.
I thought my bull would gross score 350...if anything maybe a pinch less. The guy I was hunting with thought the same thing. I was a bit shocked when I got around to taping him a couple days after killing him. Officially gross scored 372 0/8 and net scored 358 5/8.
