Utah LE hunt

Jq23 · Nov 26, 2018

I have 19 points and I'm drawing a utah elk tag this year. Right now I'm leaning towards mt dutton late hunt. But I am considering the early bookcliffs roadless. I have horses so I can get around easier. I'm physically fit as well. What do you guys think? Is there another unit that I'm over looking?
Any help would be great. Thanks

Stubaby · Nov 26, 2018

Don?t know where you live but if I had 19 points I'd be doing a multi season tag in Wasatch

Being able to hunt all the seasons would be sweeeeeeeet.

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elkassassin · Nov 26, 2018

I Don't know Who all got What this year!

But the Only Big Bull that I Heard of coming out of the Roadless Book Cliffs was a local Archery Hunter!

You might wanna check with other Hunters that Hunted it!

I know so many people in so many places
They make allot of money but they got sad faces

It Ain't Easy being Me!

Camper_A1 · Nov 27, 2018

Res or non res? If I waited that long I would want to hunt them during the rut and enjoy all it has to offer, but that's just my opinion. Wasatch or maybe Dutton early.

Cam@strawberry · Nov 27, 2018

Resident or Non Res? 19 puts you on the cusp of a Wasatch tag. probably still a couple 2-3 years out on the premium though.

In all reality its a rough place to be as far as points go, just out of reach of some of the better tags to have, but still too many points to just dump on a bad hunt.

My personal opinion is that the Wasatch is the place to be next year. Still going to have a bunch of other hunters on the mtn, but quality of hunt, bull, and experience is way up right now

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Stubaby · Nov 27, 2018

I shot my bull at 3 yards. He was screaming his head off. You can experience the rut without needing a big bull tag.

The late hunts where you can look them over and they are in the same general area the next day is funner imo. Finding a bull that turns your crank, knowing what he is, and putting a stock on one without bugs, snakes, and heat is the best.

I like to use my glass a lot so that type of hunting is for me. Chasing elk in the trees and getting glimpses of hooves and rumps is less fun for me.

To each his own.

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justr_86 · Nov 27, 2018

It's been a few years since I've seen a bull on the wasatch worth burning 19 pts for. But that's my own humble opinion from someone that spent more time there than most hunting hiking and looking..

Hunterman1966 · Nov 27, 2018

>I have 19 points and I'm
>drawing a utah elk tag
>this year. Right now
>I'm leaning towards mt dutton
>late hunt. But I
>am considering the early bookcliffs
>roadless. I have horses so
>I can get around easier.
> I'm physically fit as
>well. What do you guys
>think? Is there another unit
>that I'm over looking?
>Any help would be great.
>Thanks

I would apply for early Dutton or the Boulder unit.

Jq23 · Nov 27, 2018

I'm a Resident

DBG3285 · Nov 27, 2018

>I'm a Resident

I am semi biased. But if you want more opportunity, I would be looking at the Wasatch and Manti multi season. You are guaranteed Manti and you might be 1 more year to Wasatch.

This year on the Wasatch was more like 10 years ago. The amount of bulls and the quality was way up, at least in my experience.

The multi season gives you the rut and if you still haven't found a bull it gives you two rifle hunts that are after the rut.

desertpointbrian · Nov 27, 2018

No way I would BLOW 19 points on the wasatch hunt. I would do the manti way before I did the wasatch. not saying you couldnt get a 280 or better bull on the wasatch. there are just alot better units in the state with that many points imo

Vanilla · Nov 27, 2018

Manti multi-season tag took 21 points last year to be guaranteed. There are still 13 people that didn't draw last year with more points than you, and likely ~6 max bonus pool tag holders.

Wasatch took 19 points last year for multi-season tag. But there are 16 people leftover from last year that had 18, and will go in this year with 19 points as well for ~11 tags.

So if you absolutely want to hunt in 2019, neither multi-season tag will be guaranteed for you, but a pretty dang good chance (better than 50%) on the Wasatch. Likely 2-3 years out for Manti at best.

From what I've heard the Dutton late tag can be incredible if you get weather to force bulls into there. Can be tough for big bulls otherwise. Elkassassin says there isn't a bull left on the Books. So I wouldn't put in there.

Vanilla · Nov 27, 2018

Hey berry, I'm not on Facebook but checked out your link in your signature. Looks like you guys killed some STUDS this year!

Well done.

OchocoKid · Nov 27, 2018

If you have 19 NR points you're not going to draw the BC roadless, or even the BC Little Creek. I am a NR with 20 points and I didn't draw the BC Little Creek this year. you need to look at something you could have drawn with 18 this year if you want a realistic chance.

I'm not sure what I'm going to do with 21 but probably something different.

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elkassassin · Nov 27, 2018

>
>If you have 19 NR points
>you're not going to draw
>the BC roadless, or even
>the BC Little Creek.
>I am a NR with
>20 points and I didn't
> draw the BC Little
>Creek this year. you need
>to look at something you
>could have drawn with 18
>this year if you want
>a realistic chance.
>
>I'm not sure what I'm going
>to do with 21 but
>probably something different.
>
>
>
>Stay Thirsty My Friends

JUDAS dude!

You've never Listened to Me One Time in History!

You Might wanna Pay Some Attention to what I've been saying!

I know so many people in so many places
They make allot of money but they got sad faces

It Ain't Easy being Me!

crimedog · Nov 28, 2018

Some good bulls taken on the Manti this year. And with the big burns on the north end of the unit last year, a hopefully good winter, there will be a good amount of feed in those area's that could prompt some really good antler growth. Even if not the Manti is still a great unit and one to consider.

slamdunk · Nov 28, 2018

> No way I would BLOW
>19 points on the wasatch
>hunt. I would do the
>manti way before I did
>the wasatch. not saying you
>couldnt get a 280 or
>better bull on the wasatch.
>there are just alot better
>units in the state with
>that many points imo

Hopefully you meant 380"......?

pumaguy · Nov 29, 2018

It all depends on what type of hunt you want. The packing in and hunting from horses is what you want as the experience, the roadless Bookcliffs can be a fun hunt. If you are wanting a truly big bull, I'm sorry to say the Bookcliffs is going to be tough. As someone who hunts the Bookcliffs hard and has for over a quarter a century, I have to say the spike elk hunt has destroyed the quality. Anyone who says different hasn't spent the time there to know.

elkassassin · Nov 29, 2018

>It all depends on what type
>of hunt you want.
>The packing in and hunting
>from horses is what you
>want as the experience, the
>roadless Bookcliffs can be a
>fun hunt. If you
>are wanting a truly big
>bull, I'm sorry to say
>the Bookcliffs is going to
>be tough. As someone
>who hunts the Bookcliffs hard
>and has for over a
>quarter a century, I have
>to say the spike elk
>hunt has destroyed the quality.
> Anyone who says different
>hasn't spent the time there
>to know.

Glad to see you Chime in pumaguy!

Nobody believes Me!

And that's OK!

I Don't even Hunt the Book Cliffs but do spend some time in the Unit!

What a SHAME!

To Slaughter Our Future Big Bulls for nothing more than GREED & Opportunists is a F'N JOKE!

I know so many people in so many places
They make allot of money but they got sad faces

It Ain't Easy being Me!

OchocoKid · Nov 30, 2018

Good to know. I didn't wait 21 years to hunt raghorns.

But I might wait another 5-10 to hunt so so bulls the way it's going. time doesn't seem to be on anyone's side in UT anymore.

Stay Thirsty My Friends

Jq23 · Nov 30, 2018

It looks like SFW is pushing to shut down the late dutton elk hunt, so that isn't even an option anymore. Little disappointed about that.

257Tony · Nov 30, 2018

>It looks like SFW is pushing
>to shut down the late
>dutton elk hunt, so that
>isn't even an option anymore.
> Little disappointed about that.
>

Where did you hear this?

Jq23 · Nov 30, 2018

https://wildlife.utah.gov/public_meetings/board/2018-11_board_packet.pdf

Vanilla · Nov 30, 2018

That SFW motion did not pass.

Take notes, folks. Remember what these guys are doing with YOUR tags.

Jq23 · Nov 30, 2018

I thought it passed 9 to 4?

Vanilla · Dec 1, 2018

No, the motion to remove the late Dutton hunt failed. They stated they could possibly look at reducing the number at their meeting in April when they set tag numbers, but they did not end the late Dutton hunt.

Apparently too many of us common folk were killing ?SFW?s? big elk from the surrounding units on that late hunt. We can't gave that, now can we?

There are only 6 votes on the Wildlife Board, by the way. You may be referring to one of the RACs passing the recommendation.

Jq23 · Dec 1, 2018

That's good to know. I'm planning to do this hunt next year. Thanks

Vanilla · Dec 2, 2018

Beware: SFW usually doesn't stop until they get exactly what they want. This isn't over for them. I'm sure they will work to greatly reduce the tag numbers for that hunt in the April board meeting.