Keep your eye on the prize
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eelgrass
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It's too bad it had to come down to that, but if the shoe was on the other foot, the action and results would have been the same.
No wonder Dems hate Trump. He knows how to play their game. And win. It's too bad Trump has such a disadvantage in today's world. He's white, a male, heterosexual, and successful. That's a free path to hate with no reservation. The perfect target with no fear of being politically incorrect.
No wonder Dems hate Trump. He knows how to play their game. And win. It's too bad Trump has such a disadvantage in today's world. He's white, a male, heterosexual, and successful. That's a free path to hate with no reservation. The perfect target with no fear of being politically incorrect.
>It's too bad it had to
>come down to that, but
>if the shoe was on
>the other foot, the action
>and results would have been
>the same.
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>No wonder Dems hate Trump. He
>knows how to play their
>game. And win. It's too
>bad Trump has such a
>disadvantage in today's world. He's
>white, a male, heterosexual, and
>successful. That's a free path
>to hate with no reservation.
>The perfect target with no
>fear of being politically incorrect.
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You are correct eel
>come down to that, but
>if the shoe was on
>the other foot, the action
>and results would have been
>the same.
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>No wonder Dems hate Trump. He
>knows how to play their
>game. And win. It's too
>bad Trump has such a
>disadvantage in today's world. He's
>white, a male, heterosexual, and
>successful. That's a free path
>to hate with no reservation.
>The perfect target with no
>fear of being politically incorrect.
>
You are correct eel
Anaconda
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Say it with me Tog
...WINNING,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/11/us/politics/kansas-special-election.html?_r=0
...WINNING,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/11/us/politics/kansas-special-election.html?_r=0
wstrntines
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Crickets Tog nothing to say? Oh wait career welfare people wake up at 10:00 AM while the rest of us are already at work.
You don't think going nuclear will come back to bite you in the azz? when you have to change the rules in order to win you will pay a price down the road. watch and see.
The win in KS was a showing of how much trouble the republicans are in. a no name democrat in the reddest of red states coming within single digits of a well known republican candidate in the Koch bro's district is a loss. this shouldn't have even been a contest. the GOP is chitting themselves even if you're too dumb to get it. this is " yuge " and the democrats smell blood.
So you're at work playing on the internet? that sounds about right. you better get your paper hat back on an get to work or you're going to be looking for a cheaper single wide to rent.
So losers, who wants to bet Trump gets reelected? wouldn't that be the true test of WINNING ? how many successful presidents get the boot after one term. show your faith in skid mark if you have the balz.
Stay Thirsty My Friends
The win in KS was a showing of how much trouble the republicans are in. a no name democrat in the reddest of red states coming within single digits of a well known republican candidate in the Koch bro's district is a loss. this shouldn't have even been a contest. the GOP is chitting themselves even if you're too dumb to get it. this is " yuge " and the democrats smell blood.
So you're at work playing on the internet? that sounds about right. you better get your paper hat back on an get to work or you're going to be looking for a cheaper single wide to rent.
So losers, who wants to bet Trump gets reelected? wouldn't that be the true test of WINNING ? how many successful presidents get the boot after one term. show your faith in skid mark if you have the balz.
Stay Thirsty My Friends
NeMont
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LAST EDITED ON Apr-12-17 AT 11:17AM (MST)[p]
A squeaker of an election in blood red Kansas for a seat Republicans have held for 2 decades in a district Trump won by 27 pts just last November, is considered a big win? Sounds more like a canary in the coal mine instead.
May want to reread the article and consider that house and senates seats are determined by actual popular vote. 2018 is shaping up to be a dog fight for both sides.
Montana is having the next special election between a billionaire and a folk singer. So far the Billionaire is winning.
Nemont
A squeaker of an election in blood red Kansas for a seat Republicans have held for 2 decades in a district Trump won by 27 pts just last November, is considered a big win? Sounds more like a canary in the coal mine instead.
May want to reread the article and consider that house and senates seats are determined by actual popular vote. 2018 is shaping up to be a dog fight for both sides.
Montana is having the next special election between a billionaire and a folk singer. So far the Billionaire is winning.
Nemont
It may not be a real fight if the libs get their act together .
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/dems-populist-agenda-sanders-trump-237114
This is why you don't change the rules to make winning easier. now Bernie or one of his clones might have clear sailing to appoint the next few justices. paybacks can be a biatch.
Stay Thirsty My Friends
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/dems-populist-agenda-sanders-trump-237114
This is why you don't change the rules to make winning easier. now Bernie or one of his clones might have clear sailing to appoint the next few justices. paybacks can be a biatch.
Stay Thirsty My Friends
Interesting statistics. in the KS special election the republican candidate underperformed Trump by 20.3 %
If this followed through in the 2018 elections the democrats would pick up 122 seats in the house and 5 in the senate.
WINNING !!. you bet Charlie.
Stay Thirsty My Friends
If this followed through in the 2018 elections the democrats would pick up 122 seats in the house and 5 in the senate.
WINNING !!. you bet Charlie.
Stay Thirsty My Friends
Forthewall
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LAST EDITED ON Apr-13-17 AT 00:39AM (MST)[p]Well T, here's to wishful thinking! I think them Dems live in a panacea founded on denial given this last election. When markets are great, not so many boot on the ground, economy rebounding, giant scandals avoided, facing an unpopular opponent, all the things literally that guarantee a win. With the exception of our most feared enemies, Hitler, Stalin etc. the only person who could lose to Trump was Hillsy.
I knew something was a miss given the lack of coverage Bernie was receiving. After the DNC leaks the level of bias blends to corruption. Early in the process something happened in Nevada, from that moment on the race seemed abnormal. Maybe it's ego, I have never been wrong on picking the Candidates from both parties by the first or second primary debate. But I sure missed that one by a mile or two, hell I may not even been in the same county.
Will the DNC lower the amount of Super-delegates? Where is Debbie Wasserman Schultz and why I am not reading about people protesting her? Is there a reason I should ever hear the name Donna Brazil or Howard(Big Pharma)Dean, or Hillsy in conjunction with future elections?
Let me clear, this is not to say the same thing does not happen on the other side, but really? Donna Brazil was the former Head - Commentator- Then Fired Commentator-Re-Hired Head of the DNC. C'mon now
So far they have not shown me that they learned a single lesson pointing their finger at everything except themselves. Until they step away from being Corporatists and clean the toilet with Congressional Term Limits, Non-Lobbying Agreements, Public Campaign Financing along with some plan of direction where our foreign policy will go after the ensuing damage occurs.
Anyways, you get my drift...
Dear Leader will lose half the South, he was not their first choice and his policies hurt them the most. However Dear Leader inherited the Bushies, so it's a religion with them and they unlike the Tea Party gang like war, lots of war, war on everything.
If Trump becomes so wackadoo it might draw more of a line between GOP infighters, Koch Bros vs Non Koch Bros, instead of R vs D. A lot of these states are...well..mmhhmm..pretty red and repeatedly vote against their own interests. A religion.
I knew something was a miss given the lack of coverage Bernie was receiving. After the DNC leaks the level of bias blends to corruption. Early in the process something happened in Nevada, from that moment on the race seemed abnormal. Maybe it's ego, I have never been wrong on picking the Candidates from both parties by the first or second primary debate. But I sure missed that one by a mile or two, hell I may not even been in the same county.
Will the DNC lower the amount of Super-delegates? Where is Debbie Wasserman Schultz and why I am not reading about people protesting her? Is there a reason I should ever hear the name Donna Brazil or Howard(Big Pharma)Dean, or Hillsy in conjunction with future elections?
Let me clear, this is not to say the same thing does not happen on the other side, but really? Donna Brazil was the former Head - Commentator- Then Fired Commentator-Re-Hired Head of the DNC. C'mon now
So far they have not shown me that they learned a single lesson pointing their finger at everything except themselves. Until they step away from being Corporatists and clean the toilet with Congressional Term Limits, Non-Lobbying Agreements, Public Campaign Financing along with some plan of direction where our foreign policy will go after the ensuing damage occurs.
Anyways, you get my drift...
Dear Leader will lose half the South, he was not their first choice and his policies hurt them the most. However Dear Leader inherited the Bushies, so it's a religion with them and they unlike the Tea Party gang like war, lots of war, war on everything.
If Trump becomes so wackadoo it might draw more of a line between GOP infighters, Koch Bros vs Non Koch Bros, instead of R vs D. A lot of these states are...well..mmhhmm..pretty red and repeatedly vote against their own interests. A religion.
I hear you on the democrats getting their chit together, I'm not confident they will either. t5hey're nearly as incompetent as the republicans. but they'd mop the floor with the GOP if they did.
The midterms are not a sure thing at the moment, but it's looking good. Trump won by conning dumb voters in blue states, when his 500 promises go unfulfilled they'll turn on him with a vengence. hell they already have, no more special needs electoral wins next time.
The only way the GOP holds onto any power in 2020 is if Trump quits or is impeached. Pence or Ryan could save the day if they had time to legitimize the GOP before the election. wish Trump luck in the Russia investigation, the damage is already done we don't want him impeached.
Stay Thirsty My Friends
The midterms are not a sure thing at the moment, but it's looking good. Trump won by conning dumb voters in blue states, when his 500 promises go unfulfilled they'll turn on him with a vengence. hell they already have, no more special needs electoral wins next time.
The only way the GOP holds onto any power in 2020 is if Trump quits or is impeached. Pence or Ryan could save the day if they had time to legitimize the GOP before the election. wish Trump luck in the Russia investigation, the damage is already done we don't want him impeached.
Stay Thirsty My Friends
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>I hear you on the democrats
>getting their chit together, I'm
>not confident they will either.
>t5hey're nearly as incompetent as
>the republicans. but they'd mop
>the floor with the GOP
>if they did.
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>The midterms are not a sure
>thing at the moment,
>but it's looking good.
>Trump won by conning dumb
>voters in blue states, when
>his 500 promises go unfulfilled
>they'll turn on him with
>a vengence. hell they
>already have, no more special
>needs electoral wins next time.
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>holds onto any power in
>2020 is if Trump quits
>or is impeached. Pence
>or Ryan could save
>the day if they had
>time to legitimize the GOP
>before the election.
> wish Trump luck in
>the Russia investigation, the damage
>is already done we don't
>want him impeached.
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>Stay Thirsty My Friends
Dream on its fast and furious now,dang all the Dems nightmares wont go away......have another swig
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>I hear you on the democrats
>getting their chit together, I'm
>not confident they will either.
>t5hey're nearly as incompetent as
>the republicans. but they'd mop
>the floor with the GOP
>if they did.
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>The midterms are not a sure
>thing at the moment,
>but it's looking good.
>Trump won by conning dumb
>voters in blue states, when
>his 500 promises go unfulfilled
>they'll turn on him with
>a vengence. hell they
>already have, no more special
>needs electoral wins next time.
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>holds onto any power in
>2020 is if Trump quits
>or is impeached. Pence
>or Ryan could save
>the day if they had
>time to legitimize the GOP
>before the election.
> wish Trump luck in
>the Russia investigation, the damage
>is already done we don't
>want him impeached.
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>Stay Thirsty My Friends
Dream on its fast and furious now,dang all the Dems nightmares wont go away......have another swig
I know one thing the unemployment rate will skyrocket when Trump cuts funding for all the sanctuary cities,they will either look for a job or they will be in a migration mode to the south and wont be interested in voting,Trump will win another term or it will be another Republican,its like saving for our Granchildren.
NeMont
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Do tell how this funding will dry up for sanctuary cities? That is some funny stuff you believe. Just to inform you Trump doesn't control the purse strings, congress does. If you believe they will let large population centers go without federal funding you are either stupid or high or both.
Trump's budget is DOA in congress and even the Freedom Caucus isn't going to take away funding from cities that don't turn over illegals to ICE.
Keep drinking the Koolade at some point you will get your fill and realize you dream of an all white America isn't going to happen and Trump isn't going to keep his promises to you.
Nemont
Do tell how this funding will dry up for sanctuary cities? That is some funny stuff you believe. Just to inform you Trump doesn't control the purse strings, congress does. If you believe they will let large population centers go without federal funding you are either stupid or high or both.
Trump's budget is DOA in congress and even the Freedom Caucus isn't going to take away funding from cities that don't turn over illegals to ICE.
Keep drinking the Koolade at some point you will get your fill and realize you dream of an all white America isn't going to happen and Trump isn't going to keep his promises to you.
Nemont
>264,
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>Do tell how this funding will
>dry up for sanctuary cities?
> That is some
>funny stuff you believe.
>Just to inform you Trump
>doesn't control the purse strings,
>congress does. If you
>believe they will let large
>population centers go without federal
>funding you are either stupid
>or high or both.
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>Trump's budget is DOA in congress
>and even the Freedom Caucus
>isn't going to take away
>funding from cities that don't
>turn over illegals to ICE.
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>Keep drinking the Koolade at
>some point you will get
>your fill and realize you
>dream of an all white
>America isn't going to happen
>and Trump isn't going to
>keep his promises to you.
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>Nemont
Really? just watch California for the next 6 months it will explain to you what is going on.
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>Do tell how this funding will
>dry up for sanctuary cities?
> That is some
>funny stuff you believe.
>Just to inform you Trump
>doesn't control the purse strings,
>congress does. If you
>believe they will let large
>population centers go without federal
>funding you are either stupid
>or high or both.
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>Trump's budget is DOA in congress
>and even the Freedom Caucus
>isn't going to take away
>funding from cities that don't
>turn over illegals to ICE.
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>Keep drinking the Koolade at
>some point you will get
>your fill and realize you
>dream of an all white
>America isn't going to happen
>and Trump isn't going to
>keep his promises to you.
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>Nemont
Really? just watch California for the next 6 months it will explain to you what is going on.
The Trump bump was based on his promised tax reform, infrastructure bill and fixing the ACA. none will happen this year. maybe never.
The markets are already reflecting these broken promise as they've been flat for some time. once they are sure it's all bullchit we'll see them fall and a recession will follow. the con man will take the fall as well with the republicans along side him. as if the economy were the only reason Trump is failing.
you Californians are still not willing to even put $10 on Trump , that's funny.. so you're stupid but not crazy.
Stay Thirsty My Friends
The markets are already reflecting these broken promise as they've been flat for some time. once they are sure it's all bullchit we'll see them fall and a recession will follow. the con man will take the fall as well with the republicans along side him. as if the economy were the only reason Trump is failing.
you Californians are still not willing to even put $10 on Trump , that's funny.. so you're stupid but not crazy.
Stay Thirsty My Friends
NeMont
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Lets make a bet. Funds will still flow to every California city and congress provide those funds those without so much as a whimper. Trump and Session don't decide the what gets appropriated by congress. Trump's budget is not going to be the final budget that comes out of this congress.
How much do you want to bet that Sanctuary cities will be just fine?
Nemont
Lets make a bet. Funds will still flow to every California city and congress provide those funds those without so much as a whimper. Trump and Session don't decide the what gets appropriated by congress. Trump's budget is not going to be the final budget that comes out of this congress.
How much do you want to bet that Sanctuary cities will be just fine?
Nemont
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>The Trump bump was based on
>his promised tax reform, infrastructure
>bill and fixing the
>ACA. none will
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>maybe never.
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> The markets are already
>reflecting these broken promise as
> they've been flat
> for some time.
>once they are sure it's
>all bullchit we'll see
>them fall and a
>recession will follow.
>the con man will take
>the fall as well with
>the republicans along side him.
> as if the economy
>were the only reason Trump
>is failing.
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> you Californians are still not
>willing to even put $10
>on Trump , that's
>funny.. so you're stupid
>but not crazy.
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The blame game ....Obama loves you
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>The Trump bump was based on
>his promised tax reform, infrastructure
>bill and fixing the
>ACA. none will
> happen this year.
>maybe never.
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> The markets are already
>reflecting these broken promise as
> they've been flat
> for some time.
>once they are sure it's
>all bullchit we'll see
>them fall and a
>recession will follow.
>the con man will take
>the fall as well with
>the republicans along side him.
> as if the economy
>were the only reason Trump
>is failing.
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> you Californians are still not
>willing to even put $10
>on Trump , that's
>funny.. so you're stupid
>but not crazy.
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The blame game ....Obama loves you
>264,
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>Lets make a bet. Funds
>will still flow to every
>California city and congress provide
>those funds those without
>so much as a whimper.
>Trump and Session don't decide
>the what gets appropriated by
>congress. Trump's budget is
>not going to be the
>final budget that comes out
>of this congress.
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>How much do you want to
>bet that Sanctuary cities will
>be just fine?
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>Nemont
The Mayor of Lansing is caving in.
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>Lets make a bet. Funds
>will still flow to every
>California city and congress provide
>those funds those without
>so much as a whimper.
>Trump and Session don't decide
>the what gets appropriated by
>congress. Trump's budget is
>not going to be the
>final budget that comes out
>of this congress.
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>How much do you want to
>bet that Sanctuary cities will
>be just fine?
>
>Nemont
The Mayor of Lansing is caving in.
NeMont
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>>264,
>>
>>Lets make a bet. Funds
>>will still flow to every
>>California city and congress provide
>>those funds those without
>>so much as a whimper.
>>Trump and Session don't decide
>>the what gets appropriated by
>>congress. Trump's budget is
>>not going to be the
>>final budget that comes out
>>of this congress.
>>
>>How much do you want to
>>bet that Sanctuary cities will
>>be just fine?
>>
>>Nemont
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>Lansing is caving in.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/04/1...y-status-after-criticism-from-businesses.html
Not because they lost a single dollar of federal funds but because the local chamber was afraid of unwanted news coverage.
So I take that you have no interest in betting whether Sanctuary cities will be cut off from Federal funds?
Nemont
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>>Lets make a bet. Funds
>>will still flow to every
>>California city and congress provide
>>those funds those without
>>so much as a whimper.
>>Trump and Session don't decide
>>the what gets appropriated by
>>congress. Trump's budget is
>>not going to be the
>>final budget that comes out
>>of this congress.
>>
>>How much do you want to
>>bet that Sanctuary cities will
>>be just fine?
>>
>>Nemont
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> The Mayor of
>Lansing is caving in.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/04/1...y-status-after-criticism-from-businesses.html
Not because they lost a single dollar of federal funds but because the local chamber was afraid of unwanted news coverage.
So I take that you have no interest in betting whether Sanctuary cities will be cut off from Federal funds?
Nemont
>>>264,
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>>>Lets make a bet. Funds
>>>will still flow to every
>>>California city and congress provide
>>>those funds those without
>>>so much as a whimper.
>>>Trump and Session don't decide
>>>the what gets appropriated by
>>>congress. Trump's budget is
>>>not going to be the
>>>final budget that comes out
>>>of this congress.
>>>
>>>How much do you want to
>>>bet that Sanctuary cities will
>>>be just fine?
>>>
>>>Nemont
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>> The Mayor of
>>Lansing is caving in.
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>http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/04/1...y-status-after-criticism-from-businesses.html
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>Not because they lost a single
>dollar of federal funds but
>because the local chamber was
>afraid of unwanted news coverage.
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>So I take that you have
>no interest in betting whether
>Sanctuary cities will be cut
>off from Federal funds?
>
>Nemont
We can't forget about the children ,gran children and great grandchildren.
>>>
>>>Lets make a bet. Funds
>>>will still flow to every
>>>California city and congress provide
>>>those funds those without
>>>so much as a whimper.
>>>Trump and Session don't decide
>>>the what gets appropriated by
>>>congress. Trump's budget is
>>>not going to be the
>>>final budget that comes out
>>>of this congress.
>>>
>>>How much do you want to
>>>bet that Sanctuary cities will
>>>be just fine?
>>>
>>>Nemont
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>> The Mayor of
>>Lansing is caving in.
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>http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/04/1...y-status-after-criticism-from-businesses.html
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>Not because they lost a single
>dollar of federal funds but
>because the local chamber was
>afraid of unwanted news coverage.
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>So I take that you have
>no interest in betting whether
>Sanctuary cities will be cut
>off from Federal funds?
>
>Nemont
We can't forget about the children ,gran children and great grandchildren.
NeMont
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LAST EDITED ON Apr-13-17 AT 03:10PM (MST)[p]
Can you show me the federal law that says local jurisdictions have to inform the feds about a person's immigration status?
Here is some reading for you to try and understand.
review these cases
Printz v. United States (1997) and New York v. United States (1992)
The Presidents EO on Sanctuary cities most likely cannot pass muster given current federal law, the previous court cases that the Federal Government cannot commandeer local officials to enforce federal law and the fact that only congress can change the laws on how moneys are apportioned, not the President.
The laws need to be changed not the EO.
Nemont
Can you show me the federal law that says local jurisdictions have to inform the feds about a person's immigration status?
Here is some reading for you to try and understand.
review these cases
Printz v. United States (1997) and New York v. United States (1992)
The Presidents EO on Sanctuary cities most likely cannot pass muster given current federal law, the previous court cases that the Federal Government cannot commandeer local officials to enforce federal law and the fact that only congress can change the laws on how moneys are apportioned, not the President.
The laws need to be changed not the EO.
Nemont
>LAST EDITED ON Apr-13-17
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>Can you show me the federal
>law that says local jurisdictions
>have to inform the feds
>about a person's immigration status?
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>Here is some reading for you
>to try and understand.
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>review these cases
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> Printz v. United States (1997)
>and New York v. United
>States (1992)
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>The Presidents EO on Sanctuary cities
>most likely cannot pass muster
>given current federal law, the
>previous court cases that the
>Federal Government cannot commandeer local
>officials to enforce federal law
>and the fact that only
>congress can change the laws
>on how moneys are apportioned,
>not the President.
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>The laws need to be changed
>not the EO.
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>Nemont
I didn't have three hours to look this junk rules up, I only know that this sucks.
>AT 03:10?PM (MST)
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>Can you show me the federal
>law that says local jurisdictions
>have to inform the feds
>about a person's immigration status?
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>
>Here is some reading for you
>to try and understand.
>
>review these cases
>
> Printz v. United States (1997)
>and New York v. United
>States (1992)
>
>The Presidents EO on Sanctuary cities
>most likely cannot pass muster
>given current federal law, the
>previous court cases that the
>Federal Government cannot commandeer local
>officials to enforce federal law
>and the fact that only
>congress can change the laws
>on how moneys are apportioned,
>not the President.
>
>
>The laws need to be changed
>not the EO.
>
>Nemont
I didn't have three hours to look this junk rules up, I only know that this sucks.
RELH
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Nemont it is my understanding that this not so much an issue of requiring local law enforcement to enforce federal laws.
Local law enforcement has been requested to NOTIFY ICE WHEN A ILLEGAL IMMIGREANT is ready to be released from jail after being arrested on a local law violation. When notified of release, ICE comes in and takes custody of the person and they are the ones enforcing federal immigration laws by detaining that suspect prior to possible deportation.
RELH
Local law enforcement has been requested to NOTIFY ICE WHEN A ILLEGAL IMMIGREANT is ready to be released from jail after being arrested on a local law violation. When notified of release, ICE comes in and takes custody of the person and they are the ones enforcing federal immigration laws by detaining that suspect prior to possible deportation.
RELH
