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NeMont
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Sep-15-17, 
09:33 AM (MST)
"California will be a Sanctuary State"

http://www.krcrtv.com/news/local/california-lawmakers-to-decide-on-sanctuary-state-status-friday/621265222

I am not sure why residents of California believe they can be critical of residents of any other state in the Union. They should clean up their own back yard first.

Even the police are in on it.

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Police in California have announced that they are no longer opposed to the bill, but deputies remain opposed to it.

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 Subject   Author   Message Date   ID 
 RE: California...  RELH      Sep-15-17   1 
  RE: California...  NeMont      Sep-15-17   2 
   RE: California...  gleninaz      Sep-15-17   3 
    RE: California...  NeMont      Sep-15-17   4 
     RE: California...  gleninaz      Sep-15-17   5 
     RE: California...  Forthewall      Sep-15-17   6 
      RE: California...  gleninaz      Sep-15-17   7 
       RE: California...  gleninaz      Sep-15-17   8 
        RE: California...  OchocoKid      Sep-15-17   9 
         RE: California...  RELH      Sep-15-17   10 
          RE: California...  Forthewall      Sep-15-17   11 
           RE: California...  RELH      Sep-15-17   12 
            RE: California...  RELH      Sep-15-17   13 
             RE: California...  Forthewall      Sep-15-17   14 
             RE: California...  CAforkedhorn      Sep-15-17   15 
              RE: California...  RELH      Sep-15-17   16 
               RE: California...  OchocoKid      Sep-15-17   17 
                RE: California...  OchocoKid      Sep-18-17   18 
 RE: California...  eelgrass      Sep-18-17   19 
  RE: California...  OchocoKid      Sep-19-17   20 

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RELH
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Sep-15-17, 
11:41 AM (MST)
1. "RE: California will be a Sanctuary State"

Nemont those police chiefs are appointed by liberal city fathers and have always been liberal to keep their jobs in the larger cities.
The sheriffs are elected by the voters in the county and reflect the values of the voters and are more conservative by a good majority.

I am waiting for our welfare system to hit the skids when our bent wrist liberals declare CA. a sanctuary state. They better not count on any more federal money to bail them out and will have to raise taxes. That should awaken more voters when they have to open their wallet.

RELH

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NeMont
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Sep-15-17, 
01:09 PM (MST)
2. "RE: California will be a Sanctuary State"

LAST EDITED ON Sep-15-17 AT 02:04 PM (MST)

Who then elects your legislators? Seems odd that Sheriffs are more conservative but legislature is liberal given that both are voted on by the same people.

Nemont

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gleninaz
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Sep-15-17, 
01:24 PM (MST)
3. "RE: California will be a Sanctuary State"

If it is like Arizona we elect our sheriffs and the police chiefs are appointed positions which means they are political positions.

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NeMont
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Sep-15-17, 
02:05 PM (MST)
4. "RE: California will be a Sanctuary State"

It like that just about every where. That really isn't what I asked. I asked if the voters elect sheriffs whom are more conservative, how is that the legislature in California is always liberal? It's the same voters.

Nemont

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gleninaz
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Sep-15-17, 
02:40 PM (MST)
5. "RE: California will be a Sanctuary State"

They may be liberal but they can keep their jobs if they decide to enforce the law. A police chief can get dumped for even speaking out about immigration.

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Forthewall
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Sep-15-17, 
02:44 PM (MST)
6. "RE: California will be a Sanctuary State"

"Nemont those police chiefs are appointed by liberal city fathers and have always been liberal to keep their jobs in the larger cities.The sheriffs are elected by the voters in the county and reflect the values of the voters and are more conservative by a good majority."

Blah blah liberal blah blah blah..

"The national Law Enforcement Immigration Task Force, a group of 63 retired and active police chiefs and sheriffs, has argued that immigration reform with a pathway to citizenship, rather than enlisting local police in an immigration crack-down force, is a better answer.

In a recent letter to the U.S. Senate, the Task Force wrote, “… having the federal government compel state and local law enforcement to carry out new and sometimes problematic tasks undermines the delicate federal balance and will harm locally-based, community-oriented policing.”

Under SB 54, we will continue to comply with judicial warrants to transfer dangerous offenders into federal custody for immigration enforcement purposes.

New amendments to my bill direct state prisons and sheriffs to notify the federal government prior to the release of violent felons from custody, giving ICE ample time to pick up the criminals they claim to be prioritizing."

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/03/12/opinion-sanctuary-state-bill-will-make-californians-safer-and-more-prosperous/

The LEITF is not a group of elected liberal California police chiefs so spare us the broken record RELH.

Blurring the lines between ICE and local police is not a good idea for all the reasons stated in the link above.

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gleninaz
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Sep-15-17, 
02:57 PM (MST)
7. "RE: California will be a Sanctuary State"

So, your police can pick and choose which federal laws to enforce? Is armed robbery by an illegal considered a violent crime? How about you do what the feds tell you to do if you want federal law enforcement dollars. If you have lots of cash then tell the feds to pound sand. That is where this is going. Give us the list of crimes that qualify for a referral to ICE.

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gleninaz
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Sep-15-17, 
03:05 PM (MST)
8. "RE: California will be a Sanctuary State"

Did you read the comments on the link you provided. The sheriff's association is against this law. Also please tell us if sexual predators and child molesters are considered violent offenders. Your state is a joke.

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OchocoKid
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Sep-15-17, 
03:11 PM (MST)
9. "RE: California will be a Sanctuary State"

I love it. let California keep the wetbacks.

now let's shoot them if they leave the sanctuary state. and if we take out some californains in the process well that's a risk I'm willing to take.

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RELH
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Sep-15-17, 
04:15 PM (MST)
10. "RE: California will be a Sanctuary State"

LAST EDITED ON Sep-15-17 AT 04:29 PM (MST)

FTW response is the typical bias left wing liberal stance. What gets me he does not have the balls to admit being a liberal and tries to claim being a independent. He must have jelly for a backbone and marbles for brains.

RELH

The article posted by limp wristed FTW was written by CA. State Senator Kevin de Leon. He is the most liberal Senator we have in CA. He is Hispanic and has stated in the past that if the illegals were deported, some would be his relatives. He has sponsored or supported more anti gun laws then other Senators in CA. He and FTW are twins in political beliefs.

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Forthewall
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Sep-15-17, 
04:54 PM (MST)
11. "RE: California will be a Sanctuary State"

Who cares who wrote the article?

It does not change the fact that the national Law Enforcement Immigration Task Force, a group of 63 retired and active police chiefs and sheriffs from across the nation agree.

Why do you think they agree?

As for Sheriff's, if it fills jail cells they are always for it. Anyways, they are Sheriffs, be real these guys could not make the cut for Highway Patrol or get a job with a city. ;)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/01/27/trump-says-sanctuary-cities-are-hotbeds-of-crime-data-say-the-opposite/

I miss the days when Republicans chose facts over feelings.

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RELH
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Sep-15-17, 
05:46 PM (MST)
12. "RE: California will be a Sanctuary State"

Thank you FTW for proving my point that you nothing but a bent wrist liberal that speaks out both sides of your mouth. I am very happy that you decided to move out of CA. and we no longer have your liberal vote here.
Nemont will need to worry about others like you moving to Montana and he will find out how a cesspool of liberal city population will out vote the rural areas of the state.

RELH

When are you going to post an article by Hillary on how to deal with throwing an election? She is a expert on that like de Leon is with immigration.

RELH

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RELH
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Sep-15-17, 
05:51 PM (MST)
13. "RE: California will be a Sanctuary State"

A news article from the L.A. Times. Notice that FTW's favorite liberal was the author of the bill to protect his relatives.
RELH
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March 6, 2017, 11:46 a.m.

California sheriffs say 'sanctuary state' bill would prevent immigration officials from going after violent offenders


Jazmine Ulloa
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County sheriffs on Monday slammed a Senate bill that would prohibit state and local law enforcement agencies from using resources for immigration enforcement, saying it would cause their departments to lose federal funding and allow violent offenders to go free.

At a press conference led by Republican lawmakers, the sheriffs said they did not want to enforce immigration laws or target hardworking families and students in the country illegally. But they argued the pending legislation would restrict collaboration between law enforcement agencies at different levels of government when going after crime suspects.

"If SB 54 passes, it will allow dangerous, violent career criminals to slip through the cracks and be released back into our communities," Sacramento County Sheriff Scott Jones told reporters.

Senate Bill 54 , introduced by Senate President pro Tem Kevin de León (D-Los Angeles), would prohibit state and local law enforcement agencies from using resources to investigate, detain, report or arrest persons for the purposes of immigration enforcement.

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Forthewall
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Sep-15-17, 
06:21 PM (MST)
14. "RE: California will be a Sanctuary State"

And yet another in a long line of intellectual white flags of surrender from RELH.

Key words, Sheriff + Lose Federal Funding

I know that you being a career Socialist the mere thought of losing federal funding at any level gets your panties waded up.

As usual, you have nothing. Would you like to me post the same information from multiple conservative sites? Just let me know my socialist friend and I will happily post them for you.

"California sheriffs say 'sanctuary state' bill would prevent immigration officials from going after violent offenders"

The statement above is outdated and untrue.

"Federal law requires that electronic fingerprint records for all offenders booked into state prisons and local jails be sent to the FBI and to the Department of Homeland Security. ICE receives an electronic notification when DHS has previously entered an inmate’s information into its databases and determines whether the person is a priority for deportation. If so, it can request the arresting agency to hold or notify ICE before the person is let go.

Under Senate Bill 54, communication between ICE and state and local law enforcement agencies would be limited to passing on information about inmates who have previously been deported for a violent felony, or are serving time on a misdemeanor or felony and have a prior serious or violent felony conviction. State and local agencies would only be able respond to requests from ICE for other information if it is already available to the public."

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-sanctuary-state-bill-explained-20170413-htmlstory.html

Why do you hate Law Enforcement Officers so much RELH? What does the Kevin De Leon have to do with the official response by the national Law Enforcement Immigration Task Force? Are you telling all of us that all those retired Police Chiefs from across the nation are liberals?

Are sanctuary cities safer than non-sanctuary cities?

Stop deflecting, grow a pair and answer the simple questions.


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CAforkedhorn
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Sep-15-17, 
06:34 PM (MST)
15. "RE: California will be a Sanctuary State"

LOL FTW has gone off the deep end. ASSuming that all 63 of those chiefs and sheriffs agree for all the same reasons is asinine. Our local sheriff disagrees with the feds empowering the locals because of resources not because she believes illegals should have a path to citizenship. Simply put, she doesn't have the resources for her deputies to become immigration enforcers but she stated that she is more than willing to work with the feds in any way she can and she believes it should start in the jail system. I agree with this that when anyone commits a crime and is sent to jail their legal status should be checked and dealt with from there.

At least one of the signers didn't even sign the damned letter. The letter was sent to these members via email and were told they could opt out but apparently he didn't see it in time.

I would bet that most of those signers disagree with the feds because of resources rather than politics. The big city douchebag police chiefs on the other hand have a political motive.

Stupid at best, and posting a link from Kevin De Leon is as dumb as the flat earth theory.

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RELH
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Sep-15-17, 
07:03 PM (MST)
16. "RE: California will be a Sanctuary State"

"California sheriffs say 'sanctuary state' bill would prevent immigration officials from going after violent offenders"

The statement above is outdated and untrue.
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FTW you are now lying though your teeth. Tell that, the above that you posted, to the families that had loved ones killed, raped or molested by illegals with prior arrests and let out of jail without ICE being notified to deport them.
I will bet you would change your idiot mind if one of your daughters was raped or killed by an illegal that was let out of jail and ICE not notified.

No I take that back, you would be the type that would try to sue the sheriff that failed to cooperate with the feds. Liberals are like that.

RELH

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OchocoKid
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Sep-15-17, 
10:53 PM (MST)
17. "RE: California will be a Sanctuary State"

Why worry about it? who needs a sanctuary when you're going to be citizens? this is much about nothing.


" Amnesty Don" is on it.


http://thehill.com/homenews/media/350608-breitbart-labels-trump-amnesty-don-after-reported-daca-deal-with-dems

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OchocoKid
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Sep-18-17, 
08:57 AM (MST)
18. "RE: California will be a Sanctuary State"

LAST EDITED ON Sep-18-17 AT 09:38 AM (MST)

I think Trump just solved this for you . HAPPY DAYS !

Look at the pasty white CHUMPS cheering in the background. they crack me up, they were actually dumb enough to believe his chit . just like you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xZlRalpmY4

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eelgrass
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Sep-18-17, 
11:00 PM (MST)
19. "RE: California will be a Sanctuary State"

California proudly and openly defies Federal Drug laws (they smuggle 11 million pounds of marijuana per year to other states where it's illegal). Now openly defies Federal immigration laws.

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Sep-19-17, 
09:47 AM (MST)
20. "RE: California will be a Sanctuary State"

Not a problem after Mexico builds the " beautiful wall " right?

Is your head still spinning? it obviously was when you voted for this POS .


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