ANYBODY KNOW HIM???

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elkassassin

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It Won't Be Long and a 22" PISSCUTTER will be known as a Trophy that will be put on the Wall!




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I'm bettin somebody does, and I'm bettin they won't be talkin. Looks familiar, name sounds familiar. Penalty was lite.




#livelikezac
 
Starting to see a pattern here. This guy owns an application service and "moved" to Utah to defraud us of an OIL sheep tag. Another guy from Utah that created a point hunter app just got busted hacking into the Wyoming site to get an OIL moose tag...or two.
 
>Starting to see a pattern here.
>This guy owns an application
>service and "moved" to Utah
>to defraud us of an
>OIL sheep tag. Another guy
>from Utah that created a
>point hunter app just got
>busted hacking into the Wyoming
>site to get an OIL
>moose tag...or two.

Ya!

I'm Thinkin this might be a way of Me getting a few Tags!

30 Years from now they can throw Me in Jail & Fine me as much as they like!:D
 
LAST EDITED ON Jan-22-18 AT 08:46PM (MST)[p]Should have just called Price, the dwr office could have granted him residency.

The "pros" have been representing lately!




"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun"
 
He isn't going to be as lucky as last years illegally killed sheep that got away with it. Honest mistake.....
 
I think anybody who has been interested in bighorn sheep for more than just a few minutes has heard of Larry Altimus. I don't know him. Don't know that I've ever even seen him. He and his wife have killed a ton of sheep. Multiple grandslams each. It's really too bad when greed gets the best of these people. It puts everything they have ever done, good or bad, in question.

http://www.hunterapplicationservice.com/AboutUs.htm
 
LAST EDITED ON Jan-23-18 AT 11:05AM (MST)[p]So, where was his wife, Stephanie, in all of this? Did she change residency too and "live" in the Kanab house and also apply as a Utah resident? If not, maybe this was his undoing. If she did, then shouldn't she also be charged with fraud whether or not she drew the tag? (Or maybe this was just a convenient "separation" or a separate 6 month vacation.)
 
>But hes such a nice guy.
>Im sure it was an
>honest mistake a la deerking...
>
>
>
>《《《《《《AWESOME》》》》》》

Interesting comment....:D


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I used him about 10 years ago to apply for me. He would float the fees like Cabelas does now. Never really had much of a conversation with him. I just can't believe people go to these extremes to draw. It's not worth not hunting for the next 10 years, that's for sure.
 
>I think anybody who has been
>interested in bighorn sheep for
>more than just a few
>minutes has heard of Larry
>Altimus. I don't know him.
>Don't know that I've ever
>even seen him. He and
>his wife have killed a
>ton of sheep. Multiple grandslams
>each. It's really too bad
>when greed gets the best
>of these people. It puts
>everything they have ever done,
>good or bad, in question.
>
>
>http://www.hunterapplicationservice.com/AboutUs.htm

+1
I couldn't have said it better!

Zeke

#livelikezac
 
Guess I won't try that to convert my 22 NR deer pts to resident ones for the Henry's draw? Hahahaha!!!
 
He screwed up on several of his assumptions and did not fulfill the residency requirements, as stated. Moved away just as soon as he drew the tag, and when he came back to hunt, he was no longer a resident. Jury had no problem convicting him of his indiscretions.

Quote:

(13)
(a) "Domicile" means the place:
(i) where an individual has a fixed permanent home and principal establishment;
(ii) to which the individual if absent, intends to return; and
(iii) in which the individual, and the individual's family voluntarily reside, not for a special or temporary purpose, but with the intention of making a permanent home.

https://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title23/Chapter13/23-13-S2.html
 
I know Larry, I've hunted with him in MT. he and his wife are both great people and they're both as good of hunters as anyone you're ever going to meet.

Obviously Larry screwed up . I'd guess he's getting older and he didn't think as a NR he was ever going to draw so he made a bad decision.

I'm not going to defend what he did he broke the law and he's paying the price for it. but not living in Utah was his crime, I'm not going to lump him in with poachers who hunt out of season or without a tag at all. he could have just moved to UT for a bit and avoided all this and I'll never understand why he didn't.


















Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
Are you kidding? He got caught trying to screw the system. He didn't screw up. Plus, he is a professional. Folks pay him to know rules/law. Its his JOB.

This is EXACTLY what it looks like. He didn't roll through a stop sign, or forget to pay his power bill.

We can't keep letting dudes give us a black eye, then circle the wagons around them.




"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun"
 
>Are you kidding? He got
>caught trying to screw the
>system. He didn't screw
>up. Plus, he is
>a professional. Folks pay
>him to know rules/law.
>Its his JOB.
>
>This is EXACTLY what it looks
>like. He didn't roll
>through a stop sign, or
>forget to pay his power
>bill.
>
>We can't keep letting dudes give
>us a black eye, then
>circle the wagons around them.
>
>
>
>
>
>"The only thing that stops a
>bad guy with a gun
>is a good guy with
>a gun"


But Because dude has Sheep Hunted With Him it Makes Him Exempt I Guess?

What a F'N Joke!

Sames as Dudes Political BS in the Political Forum!
 
LAST EDITED ON Jan-26-18 AT 06:14PM (MST)[p]This guy knew what it takes for "hunting residency" in Utah and from what I have read, he didn't even come close to the requirement. Here it is:
"Resident means a person who has a fixed permanent home and principal establishment in Utah for six consecutive months immediately preceding the purchase of a license or permit, AND DOES NOT claim residency for hunting, fishing or trapping in any other state or country."

Larry has killed way more sheep than most of us will ever dream of killing, yet he somehow figured he could scam the system, and bump off a legitimate resident, so he could put one more notch in his sheep belt.
Hopefully the legal resident who missed out on that hunt, because of someone's greed, doesn't die before they get their chance.
 
I didn't say his punishment was excessive. but where he got his mail delivered for 6 months really is the sum of his crime.

He can't guide anymore but I'd go hunting with Larry again in a second if he wanted to.







Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
I lump him in with any other poacher killing rams illegally...Ochocokid. Dont try to make him out as just kind of breaking the law. Sad, apparently at one time he was looked up to by some as a great sheep hunter.

Damn horn envy...
 
He fraudulently obtained a permit and therefore illegally hunted that ram. This prevented someone else from hunting that ram legally.

Not sure why he shouldn't be lumped in with the guy that just shoots one without a tag at all? I'm failing to see the difference, as the law fails to see the difference as well. He poached that ram, no other way to describe it.

He may be the nicest guy ever. He may have just made one really bad choice. But he did what he did, and I'm not going to minimize it. He?s now a poacher.
 
>I didn't say his punishment was
>excessive. but where he
>got his mail delivered for
>6 months really is the
>sum of his crime.
>
> He can't guide anymore
>but I'd go hunting with
>Larry again in a second
>if he wanted to.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Stay Thirsty My Friends



So?

You'd Hunt & Poach with Him as long as it Benefited you?
 
>I didn't say his punishment was
>excessive. but where he
>got his mail delivered for
>6 months really is the
>sum of his crime.
>
> He can't guide anymore
>but I'd go hunting with
>Larry again in a second
>if he wanted to.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Stay Thirsty My Friends

Cause you're part of the problem, like downstairs.



#livelikezac
 
What was the specific reason he was considered to have committed a crime?

If it is because he moved back to his home state after drawing a tag, then that's a joke.

If it's because he did not truly domicile in Utah, then its a different deal.

Does anybody know the specifics?

Excavator
 
LAST EDITED ON Jan-28-18 AT 02:18PM (MST)[p]>What was the specific reason he
>was considered to have committed
>a crime?
>
>If it is because he moved
>back to his home state
>after drawing a tag, then
>that's a joke.
>
>If it's because he did not
>truly domicile in Utah,
>then its a different deal.
>
>
>Does anybody know the specifics?
>
>Excavator

He rented a house in Utah and after he had it for 6 months to establish Utah residency he applied for a desert sheep tag with his 21 PPs and drew it as a resident. Immediately after drawing the tag he got rid of the rental home and moved right back to AZ. Then in the fall he went back to Utah and shot the ram. The Utah statute is very clear that you may not move there for a specific purpose like that and then not stay on as a permanent resident. If he would have lived there for a year or two and then given up his Utah residency and moved back to AZ he would have been okay. The way he did it was more than stupid and he deserved everything he got. He can still guide, but may not hunt in 47 states for 10 years and as a convicted felon he also may not own any firearms.
 
How many people move to a state to get into the resident draws. Ive thought about itt down the rd when my son graduates. Not just for the draw, but to get out of dodge.

I have a buddy that coukd draw the wenaha oregon elk tag now but has years to go as a non res. He loves hunting and i could see him movng for a year when he retires to grt that tag.
 
So if he had rented the house a few more months before he let it go this wouldn't have ever been an issue. let this be a lesson to the thousands of people who've done it all over the west.

So technically he broke the law and so he is paying the price. fine.

His lifetime legal hunting accomplishments are still 10 times what most of us could ever dream of and he really is a nice guy that is all I am saying.









Stay Thirsty My Friends
 
> So if he had rented
>the house a few more
>months before he let it
>go this wouldn't have ever
>been an issue. let
>this be a lesson to
>the thousands of people who've
>done it all over the
>west.
>
>So technically he broke the law
>and so he is paying
>the price. fine.
> His lifetime legal hunting accomplishments
>are still 10 times what
>most of us could ever
>dream of and he really
>is a nice guy that
>is all I am saying.
>Stay Thirsty My Friends


***Have you ever heard of the Leo Durocher saying that: "Nice guys finish last!"? Also, who gives a rat's butt about what his "lifetime legal hunting accomplishments" are? Maybe he's been a cheater all of his life and just got caught for the first time! He's the only one that knows and he and his wife must be well out of the norm since both of them have multiple sheep slams and he had to lie and cheat the system just to kill "one more"! Pretty sorry and sad IMHO!
 
One of the funniest things is when people report what an "awesome guy" their outfitter or guide was with them.

No duh- You gave them a ton of money to be your friend for a week and point at the animal you should shoot.

I love it when a guide says that it feels like certain people aren't their clients anymore, but their friends. That's great- don't charge them for time with you then.

"Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!" 2 Ne. 28: 24
 

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