I am not here to throw darts, like I said, Mr. SM is a first class guy, and yes I have met him, and he killed a world class animal. With a bow none the less. I know he has become great friends with chuckars and ships, but if there was money exchanged, or toys, or anything, then they need to be licensed, insured, and pull the proper permits to do it. Everybody else has to reguardless of 1 hunter or 100. Yes Jesse does work for Doyle, and does a damn fine job, but this is different. It was not a Mossback bull or any other bull for that fact, but I am pretty sure all the help did not come free....MAYBE I AM WRONG I am not the one to know or decide. I'm done with this, and CONGRATS AGAIN... AN AWESOME BULL