The 6.5, now a 6.8. I'm just gonna wait until they get to 7mm . Oh wait there areseveral of them!
Seriously, already a plethora of similar calibers and cartridges to choose from. But shoot what you like. Me? I'm more traditional. 7mm and 300 Win Mag.
Interesting. Wonder if it is a marketing strategy to shift ammo production to the 6.8, hoping gun sales take off. Once you buy the gun, you're hooked on buying the ammo.I will say this: I’ve yet to walk into a store and not see 6.8 Western ammo on the shelves. Literally EVERY time.
For some having trouble getting ammo, maybe it’s worth buying a new gun and stocking up on ammo for years to come.
I have no idea if the cartridge had staying power, but the ballistics on it are impressive.
I knew an old master guide from Alaska many years ago tell me that by WW2 gun makers had already invented every caliber ever needed by modern man. The rest is just a reason to sell more sh_t to the hunting/shooting population. And there's nothing wrong with that either.
Since you started this thread I’ve had some time to research the 6.8 and quite frankly it’s very impressive. The wife’s not going to like you much because it’s going to be my next rifle purchase. Thanks for the heads up.Let’s hear it folks, what’s ur take?
This is one reason I made the trade for one. No shortage of ammo.No clue on the reason, but I know I find 7 mm on average about one out of ever 10-12 trips. Is see 6.8 Western every single time. And a good amount of it. A person wanting to get a good rifle and stock up on years and years of ammo could do it right now with 6.8 Western. You could have a rifle and 20 boxes of ammo in less than a month. (Only because most places are restricting how many boxes you can buy at once)
I have no clue if that ammo will still be produced at this level 10 years from now, but it certainly solves a problem for someone out of ammo with resources to buy but no product available in their current rifle.
Yea I had a buddy that won it in a raffle and he had a strong liking to the same model 300WM of mine. I have seen them on Gun Broker and a few sites.I was interested in looking at a 6.8 western a couple of months ago but I couldn't find anybody in this part of the country (SE) that had any rifles or ammo and haven't seen any available online.
Since you started this thread I’ve had some time to research the 6.8 and quite frankly it’s very impressive. The wife’s not going to like you much because it’s going to be my next rifle purchase. Thanks for the heads up.
I shoot 06'. My son now shoots 300 win.
They won't go obsolete in the next decade or so. Look at all the wsm cartridges that were all the rage. Now they are headed to obscurity. I'd imagine a clone of a 7mm, just barely better, isnt enough to stick.
Imo
I purchased my 7mm about 5 years ago and I settled on it over one of the "designer" cartridges because of that old saying, "If you need ammo you can walk into any sporting goods store in the country and find 7mm, 30-06, 300 win mag, 270, etc.
Your choices will not become obsolete, but I know from experience looking for both what you listed that the ammo for each is not easy to find right now and it hasn't been for nearly 2 years. Weird world we're living in for sure.
Sheeesh! No wonder they are trying to bury this caliber! This is the answer to why mule deer and other animals are in decline! If you have almost killed everything in NM already and you are predicting it will kill everything else in North America, we need to get rid of the 30-06 quickly before all the animals are gone! ?The 30 06 is battle proven. They’ve tried to bury this round for decades. It will kill everything in North America. I’ve killed almost everything in NM using it.
Yep, there’s not much left here but a few jackalope, I will eventually get around to them. If you’re a Non Resident you should skip applying for anything in this State.Sheeesh! No wonder they are trying to bury this caliber! This is the answer to why mule deer and other animals are in decline! If you have almost killed everything in NM already and you are predicting it will kill everything else in North America, we need to get rid of the 30-06 quickly before all the animals are gone! ?
.30 Nosler does what the RUM does? mtmuleythere all fads, i would agree that every caliber that's needed for what we do already exists. but who cares. new rifles are fun. im building one right now that calibers already exist that do what it does but its gunna be cool.
one thing i look a though is how it is for reloading. my own example is the 30 nosler i built. 300 RUM does what it does but the nolser does it with less powder and its a dream to reload for. found very few bullet/powders i cant get a good load out of. similar benefit to the 22 creed im building over a 22-250 AI. no need to fire form brass. thats a big plus to me
Im pushing 210gr Berger’s at 3000 fps. So yeah, pretty close.30 Nosler does what the RUM does? mtmuley
I'm Still Waiting on the .38 NOSLER!
210 LRAB at 3160. In a RUM. So yeah. Pretty close. Been loading RUMS for 22 years. mtmuleyIm pushing 210gr Berger’s at 3000 fps. So yeah, pretty close
.300 Remington Ultra Magnum (RUM) 210 Grain Berger VLD Hunting~100% Hand Loaded !!
.300 Remington Ultra Magnum (RUM) 210 Grain Berger VLD Hunting~100% Hand Loaded !!choiceammunition.com
I agree, that name is a little fruity.It's gotta be a Fad because I didn't rush out to buy one. I already have more rifles than I know what to do with, including a 270WSM. Why a Western???
I had it up as high 3090 I think. With spread over 3100 but accuracy dropped off up there. Started to show some pressure signs but still within Saftey zones. I’ve been pretty impressed with the 30 nosler210 LRAB at 3160. In a RUM. So yeah. Pretty close. Been loading RUMS for 22 years. mtmuley
Good thing Remington didnt make it!Perfect for a Browning!
It's gotta be a Fad because I didn't rush out to buy one. I already have more rifles than I know what to do with, including a 270WSM. Why a Western???
Must be required in states west of the Mississippi. I'm really looking forward to the next version - the 6.81 Southern! Can't wait til it hits the market!!It's gotta be a Fad because I didn't rush out to buy one. I already have more rifles than I know what to do with, including a 270WSM. Why a Western???
Must be required in states west of the Mississippi. I'm really looking forward to the next version - the 6.81 Southern! Can't wait til it hits the market!!
OK, I know some of you will have some really good reasons for it to be called a Southern!! Can't wait to see those!
I was looking at some 6.8 brass today at our local gun store. How much more capacity does the 6.8 have over the .270 WSM? A fast twist .270 WSM probly runs close. mtmuleyIt's gotta be a Fad because I didn't rush out to buy one. I already have more rifles than I know what to do with, including a 270WSM. Why a Western???
Have a buddy shooting the 199 Hammer at 3400. If you want to shoot copper, they are worth a look. I have been shooting the regular Accubond to hunt with for a long time. 200 grain right at 3200. It's been flawless on elk. mtmuleyI had it up as high 3090 I think. With spread over 3100 but accuracy dropped off up there. Started to show some pressure signs but still within Saftey zones. I’ve been pretty impressed with the 30 nosler
“No different”, like our last two presidents? One is bigger, carries more energy and the ability to kill larger game, more effectively, at longer ranges oh and the case is different too.The only thing the 6.8 western has to offer is pushing a 175 gr .277 downrange.
No different in offering really than the 6.5 CM, other than a more manly sounding name.
No different in offering really than the 6.5 CM, other than a more manly sounding name.
6.8 Western has nearly 60% more energy at 500 yards than 6.5 CM. Yep, sounds about the same.
Doesn't surprise me at all that it went completely over your head once again.
Lawyers...
mtmuley, case volume between the two is 4.6 grains...I was looking at some 6.8 brass today at our local gun store. How much more capacity does the 6.8 have over the .270 WSM? A fast twist .270 WSM probly runs close. mtmuley
Have a buddy shooting the 199 Hammer at 3400. If you want to shoot copper, they are worth a look. I have been shooting the regular Accubond to hunt with for a long time. 200 grain right at 3200. It's been flawless on elk. mtmuley
I will be the first to admit that I don't understand complete nonsense.
But if you think you need to go buy another gun that doesn't offer more than what is already available because you think there is an economic advantage for ammo and to complement your flat-brim, by all means go ahead. "A fool is easily parted from his money".
Try and keep up, you don't understand much of anything really...
I haven’t bought a 6.8, nor do I plan to or even want to. I’ve simply commented on objectively factual information relevant to the discussion. I realize facts aren’t your strength, so we’ll forgive your shortcomings here. But try to keep up, would ya?
The only thing the 6.8 western has to offer is pushing a 175 gr .277 downrange.
No different in offering really than the 6.5 CM, other than a more manly sounding name.
You've killed almost everything in NM? No wonder I can't draw a tag.The 30 06 is battle proven. They’ve tried to bury this round for decades. It will kill everything in North America. I’ve killed almost everything in NM using it. I have hunting rifles in 270, 308 and 300 mag also, no issues with them I just really like the 30 06. It’s like guns, girls and grub, everybody has their own preference.
Yes sir, could have been worded better, most of my life falls under I could have done it better though…You've killed almost everything in NM? No wonder I can't draw a tag.
Just messing with ya
Finally somebody said somethingI'm just glad some folks know the difference between "caliber" and "Cartridge".
#nomenclature-matters
Zeke
Nowhere did I say the 6.5 was superior to the 6.8. You pretended I did.
Again, your arrogance shows how much of a mouthy punk you really are. You're not 5'4" are you?
Uh Oh. A measuring contest. mtmuleyThe next time I type “superior” will be the first time I typed it in this thread. You can’t even keep up with what you write yourself. I won’t ask you to keep up with me anymore because you can’t even keep up with you. And that’s saying something!
I’m happy to meet up for lunch if you’d like to measure my height.
man i'm glad i'm not getting flamed like this for my 22 creedmoor. i'm not old enough yet to shoot a 220 swift so i kinda had to do it.
im 6'5" by the way
The next time I type “superior” will be the first time I typed it in this thread. You can’t even keep up with what you write yourself. I won’t ask you to keep up with me anymore because you can’t even keep up with you. And that’s saying something!
I’m happy to meet up for lunch if you’d like to measure my height.
a mean 250And 385?
I've Been Bunting Heads With a LAWYER All This Time?
The next time I type “superior” will be the first time I typed it in this thread. You can’t even keep up with what you write yourself. I won’t ask you to keep up with me anymore because you can’t even keep up with you. And that’s saying something!
I’m happy to meet up for lunch if you’d like to measure my height.
Would you shut up already? My hell...
You first! My dad can beat up your dad.
I didn’t draw first blood RR. Don’t complain to me that you bit off more than you can chew.
What are you talking about?
Hey Niller!
I Had You Figured Out Long Before Now!
As In Like 5,000 Head Bunts ago!
Doesn't surprise me at all that it went completely over your head once again.
The only thing the 6.8 western has to offer is pushing a 175 gr .277 downrange.
No different in offering really than the 6.5 CM, other than a more manly sounding name.
No different in offering really than the 6.5 CM, other than a more manly sounding name.
6.8 Western has nearly 60% more energy at 500 yards than 6.5 CM. Yep, sounds about the same.
I've avoided commenting on your posts since.
Ackley it and then you'll really have something. In Fact I was thinking of this just the other day after looking at my .277 bullets and no gun to shoot them in at the moment. It's either this or get another .270wsm;I'm really liking my .277-06 so far.
Ackley it and then you'll really have something. In Fact I was thinking of this just the other day after looking at my .277 bullets and no gun to shoot them in at the moment. It's either this or get another .270wsm;
I own a number of guns for many different reasons but I buy them primarily as an investment. Is a fad gun going to increase in value or decrease as it ages in your opinion?Sorry I haven't read all the comments. This might've been brought up already. 6.8 western was designed to shoot .277 with high weight / B.C. bullets right?? Hence the reason you can't really compare it to a .270win or a .270WSM. However, if you were to re-barrel a 270WSM with a faster twist say 1-8" wouldn't that do the same thing? If it does wouldn't the 270WSM be better due to case volume and burn efficiency? According to what I've researched it would. The 6.8 western is definitely going to be a fad.
I think this depends on how popular it was at its peak. It needs to be somewhat known if you want to sell it in 20 years for a return but not so popular that everyone’s dad has one in their safe. You probably know this better than anyone, but a higher quality gun will be better in the long term (Remington and Savage are great for those who will use their guns but they start cheap and will sell for cheap I would say)I own a number of guns for many different reasons but I buy them primarily as an investment. Is a fad gun going to increase in value or decrease as it ages in your opinion?
You are correct, I built a 1:6.5 twist 270wsm for the Berger 170’s and the Hammer 168’sSorry I haven't read all the comments. This might've been brought up already. 6.8 western was designed to shoot .277 with high weight / B.C. bullets right?? Hence the reason you can't really compare it to a .270win or a .270WSM. However, if you were to re-barrel a 270WSM with a faster twist say 1-8" wouldn't that do the same thing? If it does wouldn't the 270WSM be better due to case volume and burn efficiency? According to what I've researched it would. The 6.8 western is definitely going to be a fad.
It’s all the sudden getting hard to find. Still seeing some in stores .Is the ammo only in stores because I can’t find any online.
IMHO, it will decrease. Most rifles with out of production calibers are usually sold for their actions to be rebuilt into something else. 300 / 7mm SAUM's for example still have ammo on the shelf, but it's a pretty good prediction of what (could / will) happen to the 6.8 western.I own a number of guns for many different reasons but I buy them primarily as an investment. Is a fad gun going to increase in value or decrease as it ages in your opinion?
My local gun store had a bunch of brass for reloading. Not sure if they still have it though.It’s all the sudden getting hard to find. Still seeing some in stores .
Love the 280AI!My local gun store had a bunch of brass for reloading. Not sure if they still have it though.
For me, I'd want the cartridge to soak for a few years to see how it does with availability of brass and loaded cartridges. For me I'll stick with my 280 ai.