>150-200 yds? 300 yds? You guys
>are nuts!!!
>
>A 7mm-08 "with good ammo" is
>totally capable to cleanly take
>the largest muley buck that
>ever lived out to 500
>yds and maybe a bit
>beyond. The limiting factor is
>the shooter and his or
>her abilities, not the cartridge.
>
>
>I put it in the same
>class as the 6.5X284 and
>the 270 Winchester. Current Factory
>loadings produce 3000 FPS with
>140 pills. In the hands
>of a capable marksman, a
>very deadly long range deer
>thumper, indeed!
>
>Joey
500 yds and a bit beyond on the biggest muley buck! Whos nuts?
What company makes factory ammo with 3000 FPS for the 7mm-08? I've looked a both Federal and Winchesters balistic charts and none of their loads produce more than 2800 FPS. And at 500yds the energy is only 982-1164 ft-lbs, right at the very minimum of what is widely considered the amount needed to take deer sized game.
I think that it is a great caliber for antelope and deer at closer ranges, and I am considering it for my 10 yr olds first deer rifle. But to tell someone its a "very deadly long range deer thumper" and he could cleanly take the largest muley buck that ever lived at 500+ yards is realy crazy. I would not want to take that shot with a solid bench rest, in ideal conditions, at a meat buck, let alone the biggest buck I've ever seen, in feild conditions, with the bare minimum knock down power.
It may be a better caliber than it is on paper, but it's not that much better. Just my opinion.