It's in the thread title and possibly the reason it got nuked?Does anybody know who he works for?
Thanks
It was a federal issue so U.S. fish and wildlife did confiscate the bull. The federal court was the one that decided to not take his license and supposedly the AZGFD has no power to do anything to him now regarding taking his license. When it all went down Jed attempted to separate himself from A3 saying he wasn't guiding for them at the time and booked this hunter on his own (except he didnt have any of the necessary permits or insurance) he was right back to guiding hunts for A3 soon after and is still guiding for them to this day. As far as I'm concerned keeping on a convicted poacher that is known as one of your top guides isnt a good look but they dont seem to mind.WTF???? He poaches a huge bull elk on the Rez and gets a $25 fine and because he’s too poor to pay what the fine should be.....I thought the way it works was.... pay the fine or do the time. Did AZG&F confiscate the bull ? What happen to A3 .
Right? If everyone knew there was a $25 buffer zone along that fence, I bet it would be even more popular than it is.You've got to be sh1ting me! He didn't even get a slap on the wrist? Dang, why am I wasting my time trying to draw tags? Just have a buddy tag along with you, claim he is your client just in case you get caught.
Word was another hunter hunting near the boundary noticed crows not too far onto the reservation side and knew jeds hunter had recently killed a bull near there. Called game and fish to check it out. Indian game and fish found the carcass, matched the background up with the grip and grin photos posted all over the internet and after confiscating the bull DNA tested to confirm it was the same. Pictures quickly disappeared once they realized they were caught.The way I read it all he got charged is a 25 dollar fee and 24 months probation.
It’s apparent that he had a pretty good attorney.
Does anyone know the details of how they got caught? obviously someone must’ve turned them in.
You never know what some people will do when they think no one is looking. That would have made some legal Hunter a bull of 10 lifetimes !! Must be he hasn’t heard of ON XMaps.
If anyone cares to read all the details to the case, you can form your own opinion. Myself and my client were unaware of any wrong doing for almost a year until US F&W made contact with us. We cooperated 100% with them and their investigation which lasted multiple years. In the end, the evidence pointed to the fact that this was nothing more than an honest mistake. The prosecutor and judge came to the same conclusion. I'm embarrassed and apologetic to the bad light this may shine on my family, client and A3, as they are all class acts. I have been involved with A3 for five years and have never heard or seen anyone associated with them do anything questionable in the woods. I'm proud to be friends with so many great people in that company!
No history with A3 here.....does NoBull350 have history with A3?
You went with the I didnt know defense because that's all you had. You cooperated fully because you knew you were F'ed. All the court documents you can get have been posted. For one of the most experienced guides in unit 23 to claim he didnt know he crossed the rez fence is laughable but I see why that's the route you chose because you had no other option. Not sure how anyone could ever trust a guide that doesn't have a clue where he is. Also wonder on your way back out when you hit the fence did you go turn yourself in or just go with the what the hell is this thing in my way that's been here for 50 years marking the boundary? I believe the saying goes ignorance is no excuse to the law. But we all know it wasn't ignorance anyway.If anyone cares to read all the details to the case, you can form your own opinion. Myself and my client were unaware of any wrong doing for almost a year until US F&W made contact with us. We cooperated 100% with them and their investigation which lasted multiple years. In the end, the evidence pointed to the fact that this was nothing more than an honest mistake. The prosecutor and judge came to the same conclusion. I'm embarrassed and apologetic to the bad light this may shine on my family, client and A3, as they are all class acts. I have been involved with A3 for five years and have never heard or seen anyone associated with them do anything questionable in the woods. I'm proud to be friends with so many great people in that company!
Does anyone know how far inside the Rez boundary the kill was made?Its just a 4 strand barbed wire fence where I've seen it, and has signs sometimes. It sorta zig zags a little in places and I could see where somone unfamiliar could shoot something on the wrong side with a rifle. Not a bow.
Its inexcusable and they should have thrown the book at them BOTH. And I agree this only seems to happen when someone is watching. Weird.
The rez fence in another place.View attachment 4697
Lmao.... ask MuleyFreak how “not knowing” how to use ONXMaps worked out for him...
Honky side. AZG&F gave it to the guy who found it. That bull was gored to death. Lotta competition for cows down there.looks like the blanket asses get half that rack.....+ $25
Ohh he claimed ONXMaps was in its infancy and didn’t work correctly... They didn’t buy it...Not to derail the thread, but how did it work out? I thought he had his hunting privileges suspended, but noticed he is still posting videos of what I assume are new hunts. Thought it was odd, anyone know?
He might not.....but....really?
He might not.....but....
I wouldn't say I KNOW him. But more like know OF him, he is notorious and known.lol....you would know....you know his brother
Nothing like bringing up another poaching case to justify another poacher. My brother did some stupid stuff and got punished for it so what's your point? Jed committed federal felonies and didnt get punished for it so are the cases equal? Last I checked the two cases had nothing to do with each other nor did Blake's actions have anything to do with what Jed did. When that's your only response it makes it obvious your apathetic towards poaching in any form.ANOTHER GOOD READ, THIS IS NOBULL350 BRO...GREAT GUY, lol
Here is my take. First off You the outfitter should and I guarantee you did know exactly where you were when you took that Bull. You committed a crime period!! Just because you cannot pay the penalty and they let you off with a $25 fine and 24month probation, only creates a PUBLIC view of why not poach, my chances might only be 5% of getting caught, and only a hand slap if I get caught. This is so so wrong!!! You are not a true Hunter in my Book, you are a wanna be guide in your mind and a truly unethical Hunter. I truly hope this gets out across the States and you are denied any license anywhere! I was looking at A3 for guide services a month or so ago. Now that I know they hired and continue to keep employed a Poacher, I will have nothing to do with them in the future, and I hope no other hunters do either!!If anyone cares to read all the details to the case, you can form your own opinion. Myself and my client were unaware of any wrong doing for almost a year until US F&W made contact with us. We cooperated 100% with them and their investigation which lasted multiple years. In the end, the evidence pointed to the fact that this was nothing more than an honest mistake. The prosecutor and judge came to the same conclusion. I'm embarrassed and apologetic to the bad light this may shine on my family, client and A3, as they are all class acts. I have been involved with A3 for five years and have never heard or seen anyone associated with them do anything questionable in the woods. I'm proud to be friends with so many great people in that company!
Do you dispute the facts? And as a general observation, I don't believe the charge that the other posters here are engaged in pot vs kettle is accurate. Most people are still honest.If we all filled out a back ground check when becoming a member of MM all the “privet investigators” on here would be out of a job.
No ONX chip required to know if your on the rez or not in that area. Everyone knows the fence is the line.Have no idea who this guy is. Not a clue.
What The hell are folks paying a guide for if the guide "doesn't know where he is"
This BS is getting old.
First WLH, now A3.
It's beyond a joke that every Tom, dick, and Harry is out wandering the woods with an ONX chip or app, yet the "professionals" don't?
$25 is just an insult. An "honest" mistake should have at the least covered the expenses of the LEO and DNA test. That would be honest.
The res wanted $23,000, the court gave them the finger.
Can you post them up?Man cheap guy I wondert where that bull went. I had trail cams in that area getting ready for my hunt on my tribal land and put the hard work but came out empty cause some guys crossed the fence. Even when da boundary line is straight. Probably took sheds off my land while he was at it!?
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