OutdoorWriter
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The one thing I find strange is this: "When the number of deer equaling the archery deer harvest limit for a particular unit and species has been reported, the unit will be closed to further archery deer hunting at sundown the Wednesday immediately following."I appreciate G&F working with the bowhunting community and coming up with a logical and realistic plan for the OTC hunts. It's fair for most part (not sure how they came up with a random 20% harvest number?) and it protects the resource. Now we just need to come up with the wording to limit the NR's to no more than 10% of tags issued per OTC unit.
I am not opening this can of worms because it has already been opened but crossbow kills during an archery hunt should not be counted as part of the archery OTC harvest count.
Yup. That should be plenty of time. Of course, it's all relative to the overall season length in a specific unit. But I think all the hunts were at least two weeks last year. So in those, the extra week would come into play if it went like I outlined.Why not 48 hours from the kill that capped the unit? Bizarre
I don't know. To me, even with archery, a week sounds like a lot of hunting time that could result in a quite a few additional dead deer.Or, they could say that when 90% of the harvest is reached the unit closes 1 week later.
I think you hit the nail on the head. Gives outfitters a chance to complete hunts.Historically, archery deer success is less than 10%. Keeping the reporting like the bear hunts is consistent with what they already do and it is fair. After a few years of reporting and data collected it might be necessary to circle back and revise rules but IMO they got this right.
Non-residents are more likely to higher a guide and they also tend to take more time off for the hunts. Majority of residents are weekend warriors or hunt a day here or a day there. I have not seen the numbers but I would bet 100 non-residents will kill more than 100 resident archers. Non-residents archery hunts are becoming very popular in AZ because you don't have to get drawn, tags are reasonably priced, the weather is great in December/January and the G&F have been paying hunting 'celebrities" to hype these hunts. Which makes zero sense when we have a very limited supply, losing habitat daily and our resident human population is exploding.
Oh well......... like I said earlier. It's good the dept has worked with the bowhunting community to come up with a reasonable solution.
They’re just following the same system they use with bear. That same scenario could happen with the bear quota also.The one thing I find strange is this: "When the number of deer equaling the archery deer harvest limit for a particular unit and species has been reported, the unit will be closed to further archery deer hunting at sundown the Wednesday immediately following."
To me, that means the harvest quota might be reached on a Thurs. yet the hunt will remain open until the next Weds. That's a full week and seems to undermine the whole purpose for the quota.
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I think cross bows should be counted as well. Its the same season ,same quarry....................BULL!I appreciate G&F working with the bowhunting community and coming up with a logical and realistic plan for the OTC hunts. It's fair for most part (not sure how they came up with a random 20% harvest number?) and it protects the resource. Now we just need to come up with the wording to limit the NR's to no more than 10% of tags issued per OTC unit.
I am not opening this can of worms because it has already been opened but crossbow kills during an archery hunt should not be counted as part of the archery OTC harvest count.
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