Anyone sold or bought a gun from someone out of state?
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trophyhunter
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With times as they are these days....laws as well as shipping FedEx and UPS have changed the last few years....1 you must transfer a registered fire arm ATF dealer to ATF dealer to do paperwork and background check the person is gets the firearm after the process is completed. As for shipping private parties are no longer allowed to ship or mail firearms or ammo ...period...FedEx , mail or UPS will not accept airearms or ammo anymore....everything must go licensed dealer to dealer.....last year I had a shotgun that needed to go back to the factory for warranty repair. Had to get a repair and shipping authorization number.....took it to UPS....then UPS had to confirm with factory that it was a valid authorization....Then UPS accepted the boxed and disasembled firearm....
I can't even load and send ammo to my so in Florida anymore...dam terrorist screwed up everything.
I can't even load and send ammo to my so in Florida anymore...dam terrorist screwed up everything.
trophyhunter
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I guess I should have said Licensed Firearms Dealer instead of ATF dealer but I think you get the message....
Cahunter805
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That's not entirely true. An individual can ship a gun as long as the receiving person has a FFL. I've bought and sold many guns. The buyer must have the gun sent to a FFL and they transfer it into their name.
If you are sending a gun to a gunsmith for work he can perform the work and mail it right back to you as long as the gunsmith has a FFL.
If you are sending a gun to a gunsmith for work he can perform the work and mail it right back to you as long as the gunsmith has a FFL.
oregonmuley
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>With times as they are these
>days....laws as well as shipping
>FedEx and UPS have changed
>the last few years....1 you
>must transfer a registered fire
>arm ATF dealer to ATF
>dealer to do paperwork and
>background check the person is
>gets the firearm after the
>process is completed. As for
>shipping private parties are no
>longer allowed to ship or
>mail firearms or ammo ...period...FedEx
>, mail or UPS will
>not accept airearms or ammo
>anymore....everything must go licensed dealer
>to dealer.....last year I had
>a shotgun that needed to
>go back to the factory
>for warranty repair. Had to
>get a repair and shipping
>authorization number.....took it to UPS....then
>UPS had to confirm with
>factory that it was a
>valid authorization....Then UPS accepted the
>boxed and disasembled firearm....
>I can't even load and send
>ammo to my so in
>Florida anymore...dam terrorist screwed up
>everything.
Not sure what state you live in but most of what you posted is pure BS. I live in Oregon which is a pretty lib leaning state and I've bought and sold plenty of rifles via the internet and sent them to probably 7 different states - all has been fine and perfectly legal. You can absolutely send a rifle via US Postal service - but it does need to go to a FFL holder to be legal - and make sure the FFL will accept from a non- FFL sender.
You don't even need to tell the PO what you are sending, only been asked once and said it was machined parts which is all they need to know.
>days....laws as well as shipping
>FedEx and UPS have changed
>the last few years....1 you
>must transfer a registered fire
>arm ATF dealer to ATF
>dealer to do paperwork and
>background check the person is
>gets the firearm after the
>process is completed. As for
>shipping private parties are no
>longer allowed to ship or
>mail firearms or ammo ...period...FedEx
>, mail or UPS will
>not accept airearms or ammo
>anymore....everything must go licensed dealer
>to dealer.....last year I had
>a shotgun that needed to
>go back to the factory
>for warranty repair. Had to
>get a repair and shipping
>authorization number.....took it to UPS....then
>UPS had to confirm with
>factory that it was a
>valid authorization....Then UPS accepted the
>boxed and disasembled firearm....
>I can't even load and send
>ammo to my so in
>Florida anymore...dam terrorist screwed up
>everything.
Not sure what state you live in but most of what you posted is pure BS. I live in Oregon which is a pretty lib leaning state and I've bought and sold plenty of rifles via the internet and sent them to probably 7 different states - all has been fine and perfectly legal. You can absolutely send a rifle via US Postal service - but it does need to go to a FFL holder to be legal - and make sure the FFL will accept from a non- FFL sender.
You don't even need to tell the PO what you are sending, only been asked once and said it was machined parts which is all they need to know.
oregonmuley
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One other thing - you CAN send ammo via UPS, usually has to go to a UPS hub and if its got the right sticker on it they send it ground to wherever you what them to send it. Just sold a bunch of ammo a couple weeks ago and sent it to PA to a private party- no problemo!
Zeke
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Founder,
You may ship a gun from you to you without an FFL.
You may ship a gun to an FFL for repair and they can ship it directly back to you.
If you're selling out of State, you must get a copy of the FFL for the dealer to which you"ll be sending the gun and send the gun to the dealer... not the buyer.
If you're buying a gun from an individual or dealer who is out of State, you must have the seller ship it to an FFL dealer here in your State. The seller/shipper will require a copy of your FFL dealer's license before they can ship.
Shipping regulations vary between shippers so check with them FIRST.
UPS hub will ship about everything but the fees vary depending on what it is.
Most UPS store will not even ship a gun part! azzwipes!
I've shipped/sold/bought dozens and dozens of times!
Zeke
You may ship a gun from you to you without an FFL.
You may ship a gun to an FFL for repair and they can ship it directly back to you.
If you're selling out of State, you must get a copy of the FFL for the dealer to which you"ll be sending the gun and send the gun to the dealer... not the buyer.
If you're buying a gun from an individual or dealer who is out of State, you must have the seller ship it to an FFL dealer here in your State. The seller/shipper will require a copy of your FFL dealer's license before they can ship.
Shipping regulations vary between shippers so check with them FIRST.
UPS hub will ship about everything but the fees vary depending on what it is.
Most UPS store will not even ship a gun part! azzwipes!
I've shipped/sold/bought dozens and dozens of times!
Zeke
trophyhunter
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Live in Calif. and thats the law here....check with FeDEx US mail UPS thet will not ship anything....here firearms must go dealer to dealer then picked after tranfer papers and background check.
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Cahunter805
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>Live in Calif. and thats the
>law here....check with FeDEx US
>mail UPS thet will not
>ship anything....here firearms must go
>dealer to dealer then picked
>after tranfer papers and background
>check.
>
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Only pistols must go dealer to dealer. I've bought and sold many guns as a private party. As a seller you just mail it to the buyers FFL. As the buyer they ship it to my FFL. Then must wait for background and 10 days and I pick it up.
>law here....check with FeDEx US
>mail UPS thet will not
>ship anything....here firearms must go
>dealer to dealer then picked
>after tranfer papers and background
>check.
>
>))))------->
Only pistols must go dealer to dealer. I've bought and sold many guns as a private party. As a seller you just mail it to the buyers FFL. As the buyer they ship it to my FFL. Then must wait for background and 10 days and I pick it up.
1911
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More illicit narcotics get shipped by fedex or big brown than any other means. You guys are little too suspicious about what the shipper knows and what the shipper cares to know. Anywhere in the lower 47 you're probably good to go. The Soviet Socialist Republic of California is another matter. Anything that crosses state lines is required to go through an FFL on the PURCHASER side. Or you could ship it one piece at a time.... Anyone not affiliated with a pro gun lobby powerhouse need not #####...you are the problem. Anyone living in Cali, I'm sorry.
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hounddawgs
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Private sell doesn't have to go through ffl only if seller request it and shipping usps or ups / FedEx as long as the bolt or trigger mechanism is in different packaging you can ship anywhere you want no problems
LAST EDITED ON Apr-23-16 AT 08:07PM (MST)[p]Wow, there are a lot of folks here that think they know the regs but are far off. Here are the ATF federal regs on what you can and can not do as part of a private transfer of ownership.
Additionally, each state can have additional restrictions on private transfer of ownership. So check out your state's regs before you get in trouble.
Additionally, each state can have additional restrictions on private transfer of ownership. So check out your state's regs before you get in trouble.
