BLM Clamping Down In Moab

slamdunk · Oct 28, 2023

Bureau Of Land Management Rules Off-Roading Is Ruining Moab, Permanently Closes 317 Miles Of Trails

"Almost every major trail west of Moab is closed."

jalopnik.com

Bluehair · Oct 28, 2023

I understand why, but at least is was somewhat contained around Moab. Now they’re going to have to find a new place to play. This doesn’t bode well for the few remaining wild places in the canyonlands.

Homer · Oct 28, 2023

Eventually....everything will be off limits.....

slamdunk · Oct 28, 2023

As with all emerging technologies, the skies are the limt.
The only thing that stops today's UTV's is gravity itself.
We do it to ourselves.

elkassassin · Oct 28, 2023

Not Until They Destroy It First!

Homer said:
Eventually....everything will be off limits.....

elkassassin · Oct 28, 2023

That Round F'N Thang Atop Their Heads Is Hollow!

slamdunk · Oct 28, 2023

" But it's our land, we can do as we please without more government interference and telling us what we can and cannot do!"

And...

"Stop government overreach!"

roadrunner · Oct 28, 2023

slamdunk said:
" But it's our land, we can do as we please...

Interesting how it's not when special interest groups get involved...

I'd wager the membership of SUWA isn't made up entirely of UT residents.

slamdunk · Oct 28, 2023

roadrunner said:
Interesting how it's not when special interest groups get involved...

I'd wager the membership of SUWA isn't made up entirely of UT residents.

I wouldn't dare take that bet......you are undoubtedly correct.

elkassassin · Oct 29, 2023

Once it's Destroyed You Ain't Bringing it Back!

Shouldn't Take Too Much Long To Finish F'N This State Up Beyond A Repair!

notdonhunting · Oct 29, 2023

elkassassin said:
Once it's Destroyed You Ain't Bringing it Back!

Shouldn't Take Too Much Long To Finish F'N This State Up Beyond A Repair!

Man I am glad I do not live in your world.?

elkassassin · Oct 29, 2023

Hey notdon!

HINT:

You Do!

You Just Don't Wanna Admit It & You Think Everything Is Perfect!

notdonhunting said:
Man I am glad I do not live in your world.?

Homer · Oct 29, 2023

Destroyed is in the eye of the beholder......

eelgrass · Oct 29, 2023

It was either close the trails or establish snail crossings. Closing the trails was easier.

elkassassin · Oct 29, 2023

So?

You're Sayin These DRATS Have Made Things Better?

Homer said:
Destroyed is in the eye of the beholder......

hossblur · Oct 29, 2023

roadrunner said:
Interesting how it's not when special interest groups get involved...

I'd wager the membership of SUWA isn't made up entirely of UT residents.

200% true.

And most have never been to moab

hossblur · Oct 29, 2023

Sad reality, the jeep crowd takes pretty good care. I'm assuming because that crowd is a commitment.

The rzr crowd, just like in the hills, for the most part suck.

HikeHunt61 · Oct 29, 2023

I figured Moab's economy was heavily dependent on overland vehicle recreation. Wrong- or are the locals p'ssd off?

Homer · Oct 29, 2023

HikeHunt61 said:
I figured Moab's economy was heavily dependent on overland vehicle recreation. Wrong- or are the locals p'ssd off?

The enviro nazi's do not care about local economies....

Bluehair · Oct 29, 2023

HikeHunt61 said:
I figured Moab's economy was heavily dependent on overland vehicle recreation. Wrong- or are the locals p'ssd off?

The RZR range has reached carrying capacity.

roadrunner · Oct 29, 2023

HikeHunt61 said:
I figured Moab's economy was heavily dependent on overland vehicle recreation. Wrong- or are the locals p'ssd off?

The locals are pissed.

eelgrass · Oct 29, 2023

It's pretty much dirt. We're going to need to cover that with solar panels.

elkassassin · Oct 29, 2023

Maybe Gonna Be A Committee To Ban Just RZR'S?

HikeHunt61 · Oct 29, 2023

Bluehair said:
The RZR range has reached carrying capacity.

It is amazing how many zillions of those things roam the hills. On our recent elk hunt we saw dozens of them on any and every road. On the good side- those hunters just seem to cruise around, giving anyone with legs more space to hunt!

Homer · Oct 29, 2023

In 2 years of normal weather......all will be healed on the 300 miles closed......even the rubber on the rocks will be gone.....

Weiserbucks · Oct 29, 2023

HikeHunt61 said:
It is amazing how many zillions of those things roam the hills. On our recent elk hunt we saw dozens of them on any and every road. On the good side- those hunters just seem to cruise around, giving anyone with legs more space to hunt!

Funny how that works . . . . everywhere.

elkassassin · Oct 30, 2023

No It Won't!

Homer said:
In 2 years of normal weather......all will be healed on the 300 miles closed......even the rubber on the rocks will be gone.....

elkassassin · Oct 30, 2023

Hey Homer?

The Mormon/Moab Track Finally Rubbered Up Enough I Guess?

Well It's Not Just Rubber They Tracked It Up With!

It Only Took 50 Years!

They Have Scarred Mother Earth Deep Enough That'll Never Be The Same Nor Fixed!

They Close It In Moab, The DRATS Will Just Move On & THRASH Somewhere-else!

elkassassin · Oct 30, 2023

So!

Not Only Have They THRASHED It!

I Say: Keep THRASHING & TRASHING It Rather Than Moving To Another Area & Doing The Same!

slamdunk · Oct 30, 2023

hossblur said:
Sad reality, the jeep crowd takes pretty good care. I'm assuming because that crowd is a commitment.

The rzr crowd, just like in the hills, for the most part suck.

Same exact crowd that own wakeboard boats.....

Bluehair · Oct 30, 2023

They’re headed to Hurricane

slamdunk · Oct 30, 2023

Bluehair said:
They’re headed to Hurricane

Yep, it's been getting pounded the past few years, won't be long before it's shut down as well.

elkassassin · Oct 30, 2023

Ya!

I'm Sure that's A Legal Trail!

These Guys That Still Think They Can Take Their Trucks Anywhere One Of These Can Go................!

Bluehair said:
They’re headed to Hurricane

Bluehair · Oct 30, 2023

elkassassin said:
Ya!

I'm Sure that's A Legal Trail!

These Guys That Still Think They Can Take Their Trucks Anywhere One Of These Can Go................!

DeerHunter53 · Oct 30, 2023

You know there are so many roads down there in Zion and Moab that you shouldn't need to go off the approved road to reach anything The razors are ripping it up check out the dunes next time you are down there.....

elkassassin · Oct 31, 2023

Here Ya Go:

Cox calls BLM decision to close Moab off-roading routes 'blatant federal overreach' as state files legal challenge

The state of Utah and a group of off-roading activists have each filed separate appeals challenging a recent Bureau of Land Management travel plan that would close more than 300 miles of dirt trails and roads to motorized use near Moab.

www.ksl.com

Bluehair · Oct 31, 2023

One detail that never seems to get mentioned is that virtually all of these roads were punched in with CAT’s a long time ago by the uranium miners. The jeepers didn’t make them.

elkassassin · Oct 31, 2023

True For Some!

But There's Way More Been Etched In By The QUAD QUEERS!

Bluehair said:
One detail that never seems to get mentioned is that virtually all of these roads were punched in with CAT’s a long time ago by the uranium miners. The jeepers didn’t make them.

elkassassin · Oct 31, 2023

Like The Hurricane Video!

I Don't Think That Was Ever A Trail Etched In By Anybody Other Than The JOKER Etching It Himself!

elkassassin · Oct 31, 2023

You Gotta Give This Ole Boy Some Credit!

TUNED!

PIPED!

OBAMA JUICE DELETED!

Bluehair said:

slamdunk · Oct 31, 2023

Bluehair said:
One detail that never seems to get mentioned is that virtually all of these roads were punched in with CAT’s a long time ago by the uranium miners. The jeepers didn’t make them.

True to an extent, but definitely not the acception to the rule.
"Potato Salad Hill" has absolutely nothing to do with Uranium mining, nor do the hundreds of other solid rock faces that have emerged OFF of these "Uranium dozed roads" for nothing more than a 4x4 challenge.

Bluehair · Oct 31, 2023

I hear you guys, but those buggies don’t do squat* to that slickrock.

IMO, this is about using riparian habitat as the escapegoat for cutting back the numbers of wheelers. Town has become a zoo, and this feels to me like an “enough is enough” thing.

*Obviously rollovers and thrown rods are an issue, but they are the exception.

roadrunner · Oct 31, 2023

elkassassin said:
Here Ya Go:

Cox calls BLM decision to close Moab off-roading routes 'blatant federal overreach' as state files legal challenge

The state of Utah and a group of off-roading activists have each filed separate appeals challenging a recent Bureau of Land Management travel plan that would close more than 300 miles of dirt trails and roads to motorized use near Moab.

www.ksl.com

""limits or prohibits camping access to countless free, primitive dispersed campsites," the coalition said."

Not an entirely accurate statement. The trail closures are not limiting or prohibiting access. As long as you can go on foot or horseback, technically. It's still open.

I am not an enviro wack job. That reasoning used by the opposing party is weak. If the stay is granted for the closure, it will be because of some technicality not followed per the NEPA process.

DeerHunter53 · Nov 1, 2023

The whole area is overrun with Razors they are everywhere, they have made 45 degree banks in the paths doing 50-60 on those trails.
There are rental companies everywhere you look in most towns. So they have people renting Razors and probably have never driven one before so they don't even know common trail decency.
I'm with Blue on this one I think it's a "We have had enough thing" more than anything else.