>I don't even know where to
>start with this reply. If
>anything this post really shows
>just how uneducated and how
>shallow some people are......especially when
>it comes to Native Americans,
>history, and modern day hunting.
>
>Let me start by saying I
>am pretty sure that reguardless
>of the area, state, or
>species being hunted there has
>been much more harm done
>by white people than the
>indians ever could do if
>they tried.
>If you know anything at all
>about what your ancestors were
>doing 300 years ago compare
>it to what any Naive
>American was doing back then.
>Then skip ahead every hundred
>years until now and ask
>yourself honestly what has happend
>with our game animals and
>hunting in general. Yes, it
>is true that in the
>last 50 years there has
>been better decisions made for
>game animals and hunting in
>general than perhaps any other
>time, but then ask yourself
>why was this "management" needed
>in the first place. Here
>in Utah just look at
>what we have going on
>with our elk heards. No
>other state has killed as
>many Boone and Crocket bulls
>in the last 10 years
>or so. Also, almost every
>single unit in our state
>has had a 400" bull
>taken off of it.....some units
>have had multiple bulls tip
>the 400+ mark. Let me
>mention one other thing to
>you. Last season perhaps the
>biggest bull taken that year
>lived on indian ground most
>of his life. A well
>known guide who happens to
>be a "Pale Face" caught
>the bull off of the
>indian ground......"so the story goes",and
>his client took it.
>I would dare say that for
>my 38 years of life
>I have hunted and been
>in the outdoors as much
>as anyone on this site
>and I too have stories
>like seeing a group of
>indians once in southern utah
>all passed out around a
>campfire when it was so
>cold I thought for sure
>that by morning they would
>surley die. And I have
>seen campsites, roads, ect....left so
>filthy by white hunters that
>it made you really wonder
>why they were there in
>the back country in the
>first place. Ask yourself if
>you added up all the
>illeagal kills that are prosecuted
>in the U.S.each year how
>much of a percent of
>those killing are made from
>races other than white???
>It seems that most of the
>replys to this post were
>negative toward the indians simply
>because they were indians ...
>perhaps the people doing the
>complaining were just ticked-off that
>the indians were able to
>be hunting on a unit
>they couldn't hunt on
>during a time they couldn't
>hunt either.
>As far as Indians being restricted
>to a certain area or
>restricted to thier own state
>to hunt in I don't
>know about that. I think
>that before the modern day
>government placed the boundries the
>indians, like the old trappers
>really didn't pay attention to
>boundries, it was more like
>from mountain range to mountain
>range or river system to
>river system.
>As you may have gathered I
>am not a person who
>is bothered by other races
>or skin colors. In many
>ways I admire the indians
>and feel sorry for them
>at the same time. I
>don't believe there was ever
>a more noble people. Think
>of how they lived and
>the things they did before
>they had to start fighting
>to attempt to keep what
>was always thier own. Yes,
>it is true that some
>tribes became brutal but no
>more brutal than the treatment
>that was being shown to
>them. Now it is true
>they, in many cases, are
>a beat down race who
>is no longer proud. Your
>right about the trailors and
>wrecks on the reservations....it is
>a site to see
>(a sad site). Years ago
>I became friends with a
>navaho from the four corners
>area. My truck had gotten
>two flats in the same
>afternoon and I was in
>trouble because of my location
>and the heat. This navaho
>helped me get things back
>together and over the years
>he taught me a lot
>about an area I enjoyed
>hunting in. He taught me
>even more about tracking mule
>deer. Someone posted seeing the
>indians driving up drunk in
>trucks taking pop shots ect...
>I would like these white
>hunters to have the chance
>to hunt with my indian
>friend. He could track you
>across the coals of hell
>and bring you back on
>a pitch fork if I
>asked him to do it.
>I guess it is just
>the experiences you have seen
>first hand that make up
>ones opinions. By any means,people
>need to follow the rules
>especially when hunting is concerned.
>If your home states have
>given the natives special rules
>ask yourself why and dig
>deep to find the answer.
>Just be glad that buffalo
>aren't your favorite species to
>hunt since there are only
>a couple of free ranging
>heards left in the U.S.----
>the elk are doing much
>better thank heavens. Every
>year I apply for an
>area in Arizona. It
>is near the "White Mountain"
>apache reservation. Also, If you
>like big muleys there is
>a place you can apply
>for called the Jicarilla. It
>is also ran by apaches.
>You can purchase tags there
>too if you have the
>means. Anyway, that is my
>opinion on the indians ruining
>the hunting up there for
>you boys.
Actually I do know what my ancestors were doing 300 years ago, both red and white ones. The honest truth is they were killing each other, no exaggeration just fact.
Ransom
