I have seen both of these photo's many times, but didn't match them up. I will have my hands on the 385 bull tonight. At first look I would say the G-3's are larger on the wallowing bull. Here is where I see them as similar. The right G-1 turns up sharper than the left. The right G-2 comes out and ends lower than the G-1. The left G-2 ends even, height wise, with the G-1. The left mainbeam has a small wiggle, were the G-6 would have been. I know where the 385 bull was taken, and I heard through the rumor mill, where Mr. Allard was camped last year. I'm "absolutely without a doubt" sure that they are the same bull, and that the only "half way decent" bull has been removed from the hunting unit. So there is no need for anyone to apply in the future. I will take a closer look at the rack tonight.